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May be an image of text that says "Boss: What the hell are you watching? : A tutorial on how to effectively deal with coworkers. Boss: That's a kickboxing video. Me: Sure f* *cking is."



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They won't need a kick boxing video when Payday Super kicks off on July 1.

That will be more than a kick in the guts to the many employers already struggling.

Sorry to put a "no joke" in the joke section !!!!
I love the billionaire joke preceding, it's a beauty.

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They won't need a kick boxing video when Payday Super kicks off on July 1.

That will be more than a kick in the guts to the many employers already struggling.

Sorry to put a "no joke" in the joke section !!!!
I love the billionaire joke preceding, it's a beauty.


 So why do you think the employer is entitled not to promptly put the workers super into workers super account?  
The worker has done their part of the contract.  

Yeah, that is a joke. 



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Because, the more pressure and costs and taxes placed on the employer, then many are not likely exist.

That then leaves the employee out on the street and the social security costs then skyrocket.
Which in turn raises the income tax on the existing workers lucky to still have a job to cover the exponential rise in dole payments.

Simples.

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rmoor wrote:

Because, the more pressure and costs and taxes placed on the employer, then many are not likely exist.

That then leaves the employee out on the street and the social security costs then skyrocket.
Which in turn raises the income tax on the existing workers lucky to still have a job to cover the exponential rise in dole payments.

Simples.


 Not so simple. Some companies have held superannuation and gone bust without any payment . Holding super payments disadvantages the funds of employees. 

Without a decent superannuation amount to provide for old age etc, that employee could be become a dependent on a pension provided by the government. Some ex-employees have super funds substantial enough that they do not have a government provided pension.  Funds for pensions are provided by taxes, so if more pensions are paid out more tax funds are required.  So would that not require more income tax?

Maybe the employer should get smarter with the business.  A few tax benefits they get eg vehicles, tools, rents etc etc .  
Sure business is hard but proper payment of superannuation is part of doing business just like power, fuel, rent etc etc . That is no joke, I understand.



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Its called cashflow. By the way, look at the boards of industry super funds and they are loaded with ex labor hacks.

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Its called cashflow. By the way, look at the boards of industry super funds and they are loaded with ex labor hacks.


 Most super funds are doing pretty well. No jokes. 
Cash flow? So businesses are happy not to get all of payments within three to six months? 



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If every company has to pay the super Levi at X time on time, it is a level playing field for every company.

 

If anyone in our block of units doesn't pay their levy on time they are charged 10% interest rate. It encourages a level playing field as far as I understand it. 

 



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While I agree this substantially helps workers and reduces risk of losing if the company goes bust, but it is a huge impact on employers. Under the old system they had to do the reconcilation then submit the details four times a year. Now it is within 7 days of payday. If they pay weekly that is 52 times a year instead of 4. A lot of extra work.

On top of that, the penalties for being even a day late (funds actually in the employee super account) are way over the top. 60% of any missed amount is the default. With such tight deadlines and such heavy penalties the likelihood of a strugglinng small business going bust as a result is notably greater .... the employees are out on the street as mentioned by rmoor.

So, sure, employees have less risk of losing super, but the cost to businesses is higher, with less working capital to cover the bad times, and the tight lodgement timeframe plus penalties may be enough for them to fail. No doubt some employers will move away from weekly/fortnightly paydays to help with this burden. Many employees won't like that.

Edit. Whoops, sorry. I just noted this the Jokes forum. 



-- Edited by Are We Lost on Thursday 21st of May 2026 06:13:49 PM

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Edit. Whoops, sorry. I just noted this the Jokes forum. 



-- Edited by Are We Lost on Thursday 21st of May 2026 06:13:49 PM


 Yep and once again politics comes onto the forum in the Jokes section.

Fair dinkum no wonder people get pi**ed off.

Politics belong on forum where it doesn't get closed, some people just can't help themselves



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Some people couldnt care less. Me included. There are bigger things to worry about like inter generational wealth theft.

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I agree with Southern Cruizer. I was just responding to previous posts. Had I thought about it and realised it was the Jokes forum I would not have written it. But having posted it, I let it stand.

I believe such stuff does not belong here. Elsewhere by all means. Apologies again.

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Who cares what forum it is in, get over it.

If it needs saying, say it.

I am a bit over all this political correctness rubbish.
One of the things a few on here may not be aware of, but Are We Lost has the finger on the pulse.
Part of what I was alluding too is it takes 5 days in some instances for super funds to reach the fund.
The penalties start at 7 days if it is not in the fund.
That leaves a tight window of 48 hours before those hefty penalties apply, even when the time lines have been met.

Any government with any brains, of which there are presently none of them in Australia, would have offered monthly remittances at say 1 or 1.5% over the 12% super contribution to compensate for the income loss in the fund for the employee, similar deal with existing quarterly remittances.
This government have also stealthily brought some more wage income components into the calculation, further impeding an already struggling business sector.

I know of many employers who would be happy to pay the surcharge to avoid the hassle, time wasting and risk of penalties.

But you cannot put a brain in a statue, as above, there are more brains in some of those statues than the incumbent.
I know of three employers who are either not employing again after July1 or getting rid of the employee and going it alone in business purely because of this impost hassle.

This I think wipes out a few of the arguments above, also how many more employers are thinking the same?

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Back in the 2000s the NSW department of education hadn't paid my wife for about 8 months. She was on the highest pay rate due to her level of qualifications. Their left hand department didn't know what their right hand was doing due to some sort of not knowing how to pay their workers.

Fortunately we didn't need the funds due to our own good management & paying our mortgage by saving by eating stale bread & drinking dodgy water.

Did they pay interest on the owing money. No. So basically a saving for the NSW government. No apology either.

But let's be fair. None of use should complain if we are done over by funds owed due to failure to us on a timely manner!



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