And before we save the world

Rob Driver · Guru

And before we save the world

Whenarewethere · Guru

No, a bit like a bloke across the road from me the other day. Like everything he had road service putting the spare wheel on.

Clarky 1 · Senior Member

God bless the NRMA.

I cant see them fitting a recharged lithium battery when a vehicle runs out of power.

-- Edited by Clarky 1 on Friday 4th of March 2022 09:38:32 AM

Craig1 · Guru

Use more resources and get a diesel flatbed tow truck

Rob Driver · Guru

Craig1 wrote:
Use more resources and get a diesel flatbed tow truck

Yes that is the answer.

It may be a long walk to Gladstone Qld to get a tin of Hydrogen biggrin

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

Really? When was the last time you ran out of fuel. I'd suggest that only idiots do that sort of thing.

You just can't help yourselves can you? disbelief

dabbler · Guru

NRMA have done a deal with a (UK ?) company the produces portable EV battery banks. No battery swapping needed roadside. People will run out of fuel whether petroleum, hydrogen or electric powered, but the majority will manage their requirements just like now. EV owners can even fuel at home and work.

Rob Driver · Guru

Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
Really? When was the last time you ran out of fuel. I'd suggest that only idiots do that sort of thing.

You just can't help yourselves can you?

Settle Buzz.

This is the joke section mate. biggrin

We dont want to see you blow a Bulb biggrin

Whenarewethere · Guru

Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
Really? When was the last time you ran out of fuel. I'd suggest that only idiots do that sort of thing.

You just can't help yourselves can you?

Never.

I don't know anyone who ran out of fuel, friends or neighbours. Other than someone I was driving past in the outback. Gave them 10L of 98, lucky, as most use diesel.

I can jump start & tow if needed. Which I have done both in our street. Numerous times, including towing a truck with 3 tonnes of roof tiles which got bogged.

ConsumerMan · Senior Member

Take all those vehicles stuck a few days ago on the M1 Pacific Highway because of the floods. Luckily it was not a hot day and night but very humid and many vehicles would be idling occasionally to keep the aircon going. So what does an EV do for the 12 hours if they were stuck on the road? Does the driver and passengers slowly dehydrate because they dont want to use the aircon in case the battery goes flat? Or try to run the aircon just enough so they have just enough remaining power to get to the next recharging station? What happens when the traffic starts moving again and there are EVs all over the highway just sitting there with flat batteries? Can they be pushed off the road? Does a truck with a huge battery pack come along and one by one give all these EVs a quick charge of 20 minutes each? Sorry, I am just thinking out loud, but it will happen. Its bad enough when you sit in a line of traffic because of an accident but can you imagine the frustration of drivers when they find out they have been stuck in a line of traffic because an EV has drained its batteries.

dabbler · Guru

ConsumerMan wrote:
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So what does an EV do for the 12 hours if they were stuck on the road? Does the driver and passengers slowly dehydrate because they dont want to use the aircon in case the battery goes flat? Or try to run the aircon just enough so they have just enough remaining power to get to the next recharging station? What happens when the traffic starts moving again and there are EVs all over the highway just sitting there with flat batteries?
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ConsumerMan, there were 2 major incidents on US interstates in Jan this year. One was 14 hrs and the other 20 hrs, both were in blizzard conditions. Reports also suggest some motorists were stuck for over 24 hours

A number of ICE vehicles ran dry even though many were not running continuously but no EV were reported as dropping to Zero SoC according to roadside assistance agencies.

EV typically run a heat pump for cabin heat, ICE need the motor to be running. Both tests and real life circumstances have shown that heating an EV with battery is vastly more efficient than an ICE idling to produce power and run A/C. Similarly A/C for cooling where an EV compressor is electric but an ICE compressor is belt-driven.

If an EV was already low on charge then it's in trouble. If an ICE is low on fuel, it's in trouble too.

Whenarewethere · Guru

ConsumerMan wrote:
So what does an EV do for the 12 hours if they were stuck on the road? Does the driver and passengers slowly dehydrate because they dont want to use the aircon in case the battery goes flat?

If both vehicles started with full "tanks".

About 4.2% of battery capacity per hour on a Tesla. So about 23.8 hours.

Modern ICE car about 12 hours. Apart from the fact if you look at you car's hand book manual they suggested to turn off the engine for extended idling periods.

DMaxer · Guru

I remember back when seat belts became mandatory in NSW. I used to listen to all the whinging from our neighbours. We were told things like "what happens if you spin off the road and end up in a lake, you will drown" or "what if the car catches fire, you won't be able to get out". another classic was "what if you pick up a hitch hiker and they sit in the back and then use the seatbelt to strangle you".

I remember when the first computers were used in business. What can now be done on a smart phone took about two rooms full of computer hardware.

peter67 · Guru

Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
Really? When was the last time you ran out of fuel. I'd suggest that only idiots do that sort of thing.

You just can't help yourselves can you?

For a double serving hop over to "fan the flames" on the I digress page, you are welcome.

Rob Driver · Guru

peter67 wrote:
Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
Really? When was the last time you ran out of fuel. I'd suggest that only idiots do that sort of thing.

You just can't help yourselves can you?
For a double serving hop over to "fan the flames" on the I digress page, you are welcome.

Isnt it in the jokes section.

Maybe all the disagree posts should be in the Jokes Section. edit: Hahaha that predictive text is funny as well. It should be *I Digress.*

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t68270426/fan-the-flames/

-- Edited by Rob Driver on Saturday 5th of March 2022 02:14:01 PM

-- Edited by Rob Driver on Saturday 5th of March 2022 02:14:51 PM

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

ConsumerMan wrote:
Take all those vehicles stuck a few days ago on the M1 Pacific Highway because of the floods. Luckily it was not a hot day and night but very humid and many vehicles would be idling occasionally to keep the aircon going. So what does an EV do for the 12 hours if they were stuck on the road? Does the driver and passengers slowly dehydrate because they dont want to use the aircon in case the battery goes flat? Or try to run the aircon just enough so they have just enough remaining power to get to the next recharging station? What happens when the traffic starts moving again and there are EVs all over the highway just sitting there with flat batteries? Can they be pushed off the road? Does a truck with a huge battery pack come along and one by one give all these EVs a quick charge of 20 minutes each? Sorry, I am just thinking out loud, but it will happen. Its bad enough when you sit in a line of traffic because of an accident but can you imagine the frustration of drivers when they find out they have been stuck in a line of traffic because an EV has drained its batteries.

This was all shot down on a previous topic. It gets boring trying to educate people:

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t68120543/how-accurate-is-this-thoughts/

Plain Truth · Guru

Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
ConsumerMan wrote:
Take all those vehicles stuck a few days ago on the M1 Pacific Highway because of the floods. Luckily it was not a hot day and night but very humid and many vehicles would be idling occasionally to keep the aircon going. So what does an EV do for the 12 hours if they were stuck on the road? Does the driver and passengers slowly dehydrate because they dont want to use the aircon in case the battery goes flat? Or try to run the aircon just enough so they have just enough remaining power to get to the next recharging station? What happens when the traffic starts moving again and there are EVs all over the highway just sitting there with flat batteries? Can they be pushed off the road? Does a truck with a huge battery pack come along and one by one give all these EVs a quick charge of 20 minutes each? Sorry, I am just thinking out loud, but it will happen. Its bad enough when you sit in a line of traffic because of an accident but can you imagine the frustration of drivers when they find out they have been stuck in a line of traffic because an EV has drained its batteries.
This was all shot down on a previous topic. It gets boring trying to educate people:

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t68120543/how-accurate-is-this-thoughts/

To bad you are not educated enough to know when a joke is a joke.Even when it is in the Joke section

ConsumerMan · Senior Member

Plain Truth wrote:
Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
ConsumerMan wrote:
Take all those vehicles stuck a few days ago on the M1 Pacific Highway because of the floods. Luckily it was not a hot day and night but very humid and many vehicles would be idling occasionally to keep the aircon going. So what does an EV do for the 12 hours if they were stuck on the road? Does the driver and passengers slowly dehydrate because they dont want to use the aircon in case the battery goes flat? Or try to run the aircon just enough so they have just enough remaining power to get to the next recharging station? What happens when the traffic starts moving again and there are EVs all over the highway just sitting there with flat batteries? Can they be pushed off the road? Does a truck with a huge battery pack come along and one by one give all these EVs a quick charge of 20 minutes each? Sorry, I am just thinking out loud, but it will happen. Its bad enough when you sit in a line of traffic because of an accident but can you imagine the frustration of drivers when they find out they have been stuck in a line of traffic because an EV has drained its batteries.
This was all shot down on a previous topic. It gets boring trying to educate people:

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t68120543/how-accurate-is-this-thoughts/
To bad you are not educated enough to know when a joke is a joke.Even when it is in the Joke section

I accept your comment and criticism but lets try to be kind to each other on this forum please.

Rob Driver · Guru

ConsumerMan wrote:
Plain Truth wrote:
Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
ConsumerMan wrote:
Take all those vehicles stuck a few days ago on the M1 Pacific Highway because of the floods. Luckily it was not a hot day and night but very humid and many vehicles would be idling occasionally to keep the aircon going. So what does an EV do for the 12 hours if they were stuck on the road? Does the driver and passengers slowly dehydrate because they dont want to use the aircon in case the battery goes flat? Or try to run the aircon just enough so they have just enough remaining power to get to the next recharging station? What happens when the traffic starts moving again and there are EVs all over the highway just sitting there with flat batteries? Can they be pushed off the road? Does a truck with a huge battery pack come along and one by one give all these EVs a quick charge of 20 minutes each? Sorry, I am just thinking out loud, but it will happen. Its bad enough when you sit in a line of traffic because of an accident but can you imagine the frustration of drivers when they find out they have been stuck in a line of traffic because an EV has drained its batteries.
This was all shot down on a previous topic. It gets boring trying to educate people:

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t68120543/how-accurate-is-this-thoughts/
To bad you are not educated enough to know when a joke is a joke.Even when it is in the Joke section
I accept your comment and criticism but lets try to be kind to each other on this forum please.

Hi consumerman,

I dont think Plain Truths comment was directed at you.

I will say this again

This is THE JOKE SECTION

Is everyone in here hiding from the real world. biggrin

lighten up you blokes

even if every car in Aus is replaced with an EV tomorrow it will do nothing for world pollution until China. India and some other countries stop polluting.

The first post was a joke.

you know.something we laugh at..

-- Edited by Rob Driver on Saturday 5th of March 2022 08:54:17 PM