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RE: A little more on MyHealth


This is the story I referred to earlier, a comment from the CEO of NIB health fund _

In an interview with Fairfax Media, Mr Fitzgibbon said Australians opting out of the federal governments digital My Health Record system were preventing health providers from accessing vital information

From https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/we-desperately-need-this-data-nib-boss-wants-members-digital-health-records-20180719-p4zsha.html

"trust me" does not do it for me given examples of nasty dealings by health funds elsewhere.   There are instances where drug companies have directly approached people who might buy their brand of drug.

If I was confident my data would not be accesses by bad actors, I see lots of good things in the Health Record idea.

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Maybe this story will put the subject in perspective:

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs_purported_HIV_medical_status_results,_2008



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Stretch60 wrote:

Still can't see the issue, if you don't want to then opt out, simple. No more pointless arguments. As for GN's having access to medical records whilst travelling, surely you know your own health history?


Unfortunately many (most) of us have had so many differing illnesses/surgeries/diseases that it is nigh on impossible to recall, particularly in trauma or stressful situations. Even if you do know the basic surgeries etc, there are often intricacies about the particular procedures that are only known by performing surgeon, this information may be critical for the medico treating current problem. The easier it is to have any treating Doctor know accurately patient history is only a good thing.

Law enforcement can obtain any held information (by warrant) so don't even consider that any permission is required by those having any legal need will be thwarted. The information will be mined by insurance companies no doubt, but I believe the good will out weigh the bad.   



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Possum3 wrote:
Stretch60 wrote:

Still can't see the issue, if you don't want to then opt out, simple. No more pointless arguments. As for GN's having access to medical records whilst travelling, surely you know your own health history?


Unfortunately many (most) of us have had so many differing illnesses/surgeries/diseases that it is nigh on impossible to recall, particularly in trauma or stressful situations. Even if you do know the basic surgeries etc, there are often intricacies about the particular procedures that are only known by performing surgeon, this information may be critical for the medico treating current problem. The easier it is to have any treating Doctor know accurately patient history is only a good thing.

Law enforcement can obtain any held information (by warrant) so don't even consider that any permission is required by those having any legal need will be thwarted. The information will be mined by insurance companies no doubt, but I believe the good will out weigh the bad.   


 Agree 100%

 

 

re My own health records.   

Long ago I realised that I was unable to recall completely & accurately all of my various illness details. 

So I started a file for each ailment.  I take the relevant file along to appointments with the specialist involved.  All of them for my Physician.

I make a record of the conclusions & advice at every visit (even to the GP) & tick off all of the actions required of me as I complete them.

Unfortunately I don't take the files with me when on the road.  All I have are those that I have on spreadsheets on my laptop. Perhaps I should take the files. 

 

 

It would be nice if the full details were on the Nat database that I could update rather than dragging hard copies around the place.



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Cupie wrote:

 Agree 100%

 

 

re My own health records.   

Long ago I realised that I was unable to recall completely & accurately all of my various illness details. 

So I started a file for each ailment.  I take the relevant file along to appointments with the specialist involved.  All of them for my Physician.

I make a record of the conclusions & advice at every visit (even to the GP) & tick off all of the actions required of me as I complete them.

Unfortunately I don't take the files with me when on the road.  All I have are those that I have on spreadsheets on my laptop. Perhaps I should take the files. 

 

 

It would be nice if the full details were on the Nat database that I could update rather than dragging hard copies around the place.


Yes, I reckon so Cupie. I cannot recall all that happened to me after my accident 10 years ago, some of it ongoing. As we age forgetting some things is part of life, apparently more so in my case. Even Eril is not as good as she was several years ago!! Her Memory you dirty minded people.biggrin

Aussie Paul. smile



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And now there are news stories just today of inaccurate records and that getting the records corrected is almost an impossible task. Guess whose responsibility it is to check the accuracy of your records.

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I never thunk like that Paul. Not me, no way disbeliefno



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Talking to a member of the law re drugs etc and he said they can only scan for a few main drugs such as THC and Methadone but then there is a full data base accessed automatically they will be able to ask anyone that their computer identifies as taking drugs that effect the ability to drive in for testing and most possibly be able to prosecute.
It will not be the first time our governments have used data collected innocently to assist in the budget.
They now have number plate recognition and to add the medical data to that info if done correctly would be so easy they will not be able to resist.
There would not be many on here that do not take medication that warns of the possibility to impede the ability to use machinery of drive automobiles.
Our government do not do much that will not eventually enable them to gain financially.
Have been trying to cancel my record for three days with extended waits on the phone with out success but instantly get through if they thing yu wish to opt in. Have been there twice and got straight through but waited for well over a half hour late at night and still did not get through. Not sure of they dont want people to get out once they are in.??????
Have found that the hospitals I have had to visit do not have access and my doctor has stated he will never add data so there are still many stumbling blocks as for doctors it is voluntary and if opting in there is a major increase on work load and it will take years for most doctors to add all their data even with several people adding the data. It appears there is no auto upload as it appears to be all PDF files that I have seen.



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They now have number plate recognition and to add the medical data to that info if done correctly would be so easy they will not be able to resist.
There would not be many on here that do not take medication that warns of the possibility to impede the ability to use machinery of drive automobiles.


A *very* good point. I hadn't considered data matching across number plate recognition and medical records but the technology already exists to do it all that is needed is full access to medical records - all in the unarguable cause of safety, it's for you own best interest, you understand....

Could be that some grey nomads may become grey stationarys before too long.

Could also be time to move my vehicle registrations to my PL company.



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Gday...

Once again, I fully concede the fears and concerns of various people to the content, and possible hacking, of MyHealth - or any (all?) other databases... but there is nothing in my health record that, if linked to number plate recognition or any other database, would cause me to be compromised, arrested or imprisoned ... and to date it has proven helpful over the past five years when consulting with medical professionals on my travels.

cheers - John



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My advise was that when they have this data, at any time you could be asked to provide blood test as the police will know that because of the drugs you have been prescribed, (you have been warned by the Label) that you should not be driving or operating machinery.
You only need someone to hit you and like the Alcohol is now they could test for the prescribed drugs that are known to have an effect on driving and you are the one in the wrong the same as what happens now with alcohol.
Never trust a politician as they are there to gain revenue and spend as least as possible, especially here in Australia.

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This is Grey Nomads forum not Conspiracy Corner!

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Not sure about conspiracy theories but in WA any driver of a vehicle involved in a serious crash, where serious injury occurs will be required to undergo a blood test even if you are stationary at lights or other situation where you are stationary. Once blood test results come back then it will up to the Government chemist to provide a report on the effects of driving with any particular drug prescribed or otherwise in the blood of the involved driver. So an innocent party of the crash MAY find themselves in hot water if driving with a quantity of drugs in their system when the warning says don't drive. But I must stress the word MAY.

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My opinion is....

Whenever any none medical people, gets access to my medical records

They must be sillier than me, if they actually waste their time, by reading it



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