What does this mean for most of us?

aussie_paul · Guru

What does this mean for most of us?

Kebbin · Guru

Ah Paul you have just posted Kiwijims link again wink

aussie_paul · Guru

Kebbin wrote:
Ah Paul you have just posted Kiwijims link again

I should have checked no one else had done it!!!! disbelief

Aussie Paul. smile

aussie_paul · Guru

What does this mean for me? I want to upgrade the rear suspension of my 2010 Pajero in August.

Aussie Paul. smile

Dougwe · Chief one feather

Paul, it's the GCM that is no longer. Providing your van and car after your car upgrade are under their max's and don't go over the current combined weight of both I see no problem. IMO.

That said, if your van is close now and car close or over it will be difficult to do I think. Might be time to say goodnight to the Mitzi. cry cry

Hope I have made some sort of sense mate. I could be off track of course confuse hmm

Hylife · Guru

aussie_paul wrote:
What does this mean for me? I want to upgrade the rear suspension of my 2010 Pajero in August.
Aussie Paul.

You can still get a lift up to 50mm without testing of ESC.

You can still get a GVM upgrade for greater payload or tow ball mass loading.

You can't get a GCM upgrade to be able to tow more than what the first stage manufacturer has allowed.

In simple terms, you can still upgrade to carry more but you can't upgrade to tow more.

Many of us only want the GVM upgrade anyway because the OEMs often limit the payload at an amount that does not realistically allow you to utilise the OEM's max tow mass.

You know what I mean, those sneaky figures that say you can have a payload of 600kg and a tow up to 3.5 ton.
But, suddenly you find that after adding the new steel bulbar and towbar and drawer systems and fridge and tools and bits and bobs in the back and the wife and the whatevers... then you discover that you have just used 500kg out of your 600kg load allowance and you haven't hooked up the 3 ton van that is going to add another 300kg to your load.

It also still allows GVM upgrades to work around the seriously misleading manufacturers such as some Nissan and Mitsubishi vehicles that state in some tiny fine print that if you want to tow the max mass you can only carry a lesser max payload.

aussie_paul · Guru

Hylife wrote:
50mm without testing of ESC.
You can still get a GVM upgrade for greater payload or tow ball mass loading.
You can't get a GCM upgrade to be able to tow more than what the first stage manufacturer has allowed.

In simple terms, you can still upgrade to carry more but you can't upgrade to tow more.
Many of us only want the GVM upgrade anyway because the OEMs often limit the payload at an amount that does not realistically allow you to utilise the OEM's max tow mass.
You know what I mean, those sneaky figures that say you can have a payload of 600kg and a tow up to 3.5 ton.
But, suddenly you find that after adding the new steel bulbar and towbar and drawer systems and fridge and tools and bits and bobs in the back and the wife and the whatevers... then you discover that you have just used 500kg out of your 600kg load allowance and you haven't hooked up the 3 ton van that is going to add another 300kg to your load.
It also still allows GVM upgrades to work around the seriously misleading manufacturers such as some Nissan and Mitsubishi vehicles that state in some tiny fine print that if you want to tow the max mass you can only carry a lesser max payload.

Thanks Hylife, that is a relief for me.

Aussie Paul. smile

-- Edited by aussie_paul on Thursday 14th of June 2018 06:19:59 PM

montie · Guru

You can still get a GVM upgrade to increase tug payload capacity.
GCM and towing capacity upgrades are no longer available.
Just remember, in a towing situation, if you utilize the extra payload your towing capacity will be reduced to remain within GCM.

Sarco Harris · Senior Member

The way I read this, is that it applies to "NEW" vehicles only, and as such probably does not apply to any older vehicles (older than Jun 2018).

Sarco