Global Warming; A closer look

Ontos45 · Guru

Global Warming; A closer look

Spydermann · Senior Member

There are so many people making a living out of consulting on reducing green-house gases, I'm skeptical on all accounts. It's like foam coffee cups. I've seen arguments that they are more environmental friendly that the paper cups that are heavily bleached and lined with plastic. The word "spin doctor" always come to mind when trying to justify things.

And nothing is biodegradable if it's buried under 5 metres of soil with no access to oxygen.

Yuglamron · Guru

I recently read a Novel by Michael Crichton "State of Fear"

This author is the guy who wrote Andromeda Strain and Jurassic Park amongst many others.

I would imagine that his novel State of fear was written as a novel to keep from being hounded by the Climate crowd.

His novel has many references to actual "Climate" research by reputable scientist who argue against the fear mongers who pervade society at the moment preaching doom and gloom. I believe they are in it for the money and research grants to bolster their views on global warming and climate change.

Very interesting book which refers to other scientist's views and research. It gives some very interesting points of view.

Whatever your views it's a good read.

aussie_paul · Guru

I reckon that there probably has to be some effect with the earth's population and industrial growth. It would be nice to know the actual truth!!!

Aussie Paul. smile

Izabarack · Guru

I don't bother arguing global warming or not. I do see the pollution and waste from a throw away society and know we cannot be doing a good thing to the planet.

Iza

Woody n Sue · Guru

Well for my two bobs worth it used to be called global warming till they decided it wasn't actually getting warmer so it was changed to climate change so what really is going on ? Well I agree we should be cleaning up our act I am not convinced we are actually changing the climate much but there is no denying we are polluting the place.
As for all the doomsday stuff the historians tell us the earth has already had two ice ages and I'm pretty sure that man had nothing to do with either of those.

rockylizard · Guru

Gday...

I would offer, and recommend, this publication to anyone wishing to gain a view on the changes our earth has gone through over the millennium.

I believe it is a well written and unemotional source of information for you to form your own opinion.

http://www.amazon.com/Reporting-Live-World-David-Shukman/dp/1846688876

amazon even offer 28 used copies of this book for $0.55 - a bargain at twice the price

Cheers - John

-- Edited by rockylizard on Friday 26th of June 2015 06:49:10 PM

hako · Guru

Yup - no such thing as climate change, and what's wrong with smoking cigarettes on this flat earth of ours. If God wanted us to fly he's have given us wings. Remember coal is good.

Ondabeach · Senior Member

700 million years ago, our little home was covered from pole to pole in ice. Around 50,000 years ago the land down under boasted an inland sea... so climate change is real, natural, and ongoing. Change is after all, the only constant.

Is humankind helping to steady the ship... hell no! But are we solely, or even majorly responsible for the current state of the global climate situation... be it good, bad or just what it is? Short answer... No. One decent sized volcanic eruption puts more green house gasses and particulates into the atmosphere than all of man's contributions since we first learnt how to make fire.

Who amongst us old codgers hasn't noticed a change in weather patterns in our own lifetimes? The thing is that our lifespans are 80 years if we're lucky... Mother Earth though is expected to reach the ripe old age of 8 billion years or more, so as far as she's concerned, we're nothing more than a rash that'll clear up with a bit of ointment... just like that nasty dinosaur infection got taken care of by a little 10km diameter chunk of dust and ice from outer space... kind of like using a piece of pumice to get rid of an annoying corn. You hear people banging on about what a problem cow farts are for the environment... imagine being downwind of a grazing herd of brontosaurus!

There have been numerous mass extinctions over the millennia, and no doubt there will be more to come. On more than one occasion, they say that around 95% of all species on the planet were wiped out in the blink of an eye on a planetary timescale. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't care about our own individual effect on the planet that we call home... you know the saying... don't ****e in your own backyard.

Against all odds, we human beings clawed our way to the top of the food chain, so arguably, quite naturally we tend to think that everything in our universe revolves around us. We just need to bear in mind that a few hundred years ago, we thought that the sun revolved around the earth.

sandsmere · Guru

Izabarack wrote:
I don't bother arguing global warming or not. I do see the pollution and waste from a throw away society and know we cannot be doing a good thing to the planet.

Iza

Me too.

Desert Dweller · Guru

Birth control is the key. Too many people using too many of the Earth's resources. They are limited. One day it will all come tumbling down. We won't be around to see it though.

Ondabeach · Senior Member

Absolutely DD, 7.5 billion people on the planet and climbing fast. Global population has doubled in the last 40 odd years... scary stuff. They reckon we'll all have to eat insects for protein soon. But hey, us nomads will be well fed... when we get hungry, we can just pull over and lick our windscreens biggrin

Desert Dweller · Guru

Ondabeach wrote:
Absolutely DD, 7.5 billion people on the planet and climbing fast. Global population has doubled in the last 40 odd years... scary stuff. They reckon we'll all have to eat insects for protein soon. But hey, us nomads will be well fed... when we get hungry, we can just pull over and lick our windscreens

Most of the worlds population is concentrated on, slightly above or below the Equator in the warmer climates. Sex drive increases as temperature increases (fact). I suppose baring your backside at or near the South or North Pole could be a bit of a turn off! LOL.
Obviously that's why there are less people in colder climate countries.

Ontos45 · Guru

I could never understand boiling yourself in a sauna then jumping into freezing water as the Danes etc. do.

Was a documentary on SBS a few weeks ago on methane gas and live stock. The highest produces of methane were cattle followed by sheep/goats then pigs and chooks. The English are experimenting with high intensity cattle farming with the cattle confined in yards with only supplied food. Methane production down 50%. This applied to the other species too, such as shed raised chooks. Seems this will become the norm to supply meat to our increasing population without the green house gases. The animal libs' won't like it but that the way it is.