Aha you are making the common mistake of believing the police

Are there to help the public that is a out of date convention

The only reason the piloice are out and about now days

Is to raise money for there political masters sad aint it

 

 

 

it will be a sad and sorry day for us all if they ever stop doing it, imho

 

Bob

I really like the fact that in a micro second they can photo a car and know that the car is unregistered and the owner has @ $ 5000 warrants against him !!This is called kharma ! And I think its wonderful ! However if you have done nothing wrong ...ergo you will be ignored . Very simple ! Westy

Over my lifetime I have spent many hours on the road and probably clocked up several million km's and have never been pulled over, except when I broke the road rules once for crossing the double line and once for no seat belt. Oh yes and several times for RBT mainly on a road near home which is listed as a black spot because of the numerous deaths mainly caused by drunk driving.

I support the police who are doing a great job trying to prevent innocent drivers being killed by idiots that have no concern for the safety of others and are quite happy to kill themselves and take others with them by their complete disregard for the road rules.
Without Police enforcement it would be complete anarchy on our roads and it wouldn't be safe to drive to the local shops.
Cheers
David

Maybe I was not clear enough in my first post that I was not objecting to the booze van testing. What I do object to though are the police patrols in the 'burbs stopping people who are going about their ordinary business.

It is as though their performance is measured by the number of vehicles stopped. Or maybe they are just filling in time in burbs where they can cruise safely. When you consider the number of unsolved burglaries, they should have better things to do. I would like to see anywhere near the same zealousness applied to making the trains, railway platforms and their vicinity safe at night. Maybe a regular walk through of licensed establishments to deter public drunkenness and the violence that affects youth at social venues. Talking about social venues frequented by youth, if police want to make their presence felt, what about some more scrutiny of the well known establishments known to be operated by criminals since the years dot?

While the ordinary citizen is obliged and willing to cooperate with a certain level of intrusion to private lives to curb drink and drug driving, I do not agree that police have an unbridled/unrestricted right under the traffic regulations (and that includes the regulations relating to random alcohol testing) to stop and detain motorists at random to check identification, licences, registration and other matters, and to inspect cars (admittedly it is done from the outside looking over the vehicle and peering inside).

Traffic enforcement needs a measured response, otherwise yes, it is just revenue raising.

-- Edited by johnq on Wednesday 24th of December 2014 12:25:19 AM

I don't really mind being pulled over by the cops, i think that 99.9% of them they do a fantastic job and if that means being pulled 

over for a spot check ,then so be it. I wonder how many times the cops have pulled over cars in spot checks and found

stolen goods, drugs ,unregistered vehicles , drunk drivers, people with outstanding warrants, the list goes on and on,

i think there should be a lot more of them out and about so that they can protect us more than they do now,  

They get spat on, punched up and sometimes they even get killed just trying to do their job.I wouldn't do it for quids.

"HAIL" to the cops i say.

WE have a son  and son in law who are   both in the force and both of them have had some bad things happen to them from

the criminal element. The police are the first people we call when we are in trouble.

 

Blues man

 

 

The police in all states do a great job, I'm sick of whingers crying persecution when the officers are doing the job they are paid to do, without an effective force we would live in a constant state of anarchy.

The cops are in a no win situation, damned if they do and damned if they don't.

I've been driving for well over 50 years, have been stopped many times for random tests, and unlike others will even admit to copping a few speeding fines, all deserved, have always been treated with respect regardless of the situation.

To the whingers, give the matter a bit of thought, perhaps the logic of the situation will become evident.

Not too long ago I had a young intruder (20 years old?) in the backyard. I was 3 times his age, physically decrepit, yet I chased him down the street, in my slippers. and caught him. When I spoke to the pigs (30 years old?) later on that day, they said that he had run away from them after they stopped the car he was in. Apparently their lazy backsides were welded to the seats in their patrol car.

One would think that by now the amount of time 'greynomads' have spent on this earth they would realise that cops are out there to raise revenue. I could write three pages outlining these instances I have witnessed over the years.
However for those who are not convinced, have a long hard look at events that calls on these people to do something other than issue a traffic fine and watch how they fail miserably. One of many examples is how quick they are to shoot someone dead when they are threatened with a knife. Surely a bullet to the legs is not a big ask when your opponent is less then 6 feet away.
This is not to say they are totally incompetent, but, sitting behind a tree with a radar gun does not cut it for me, nor pulling over a greynomad going about his/her business and being given 'criminal check'.
There are so many things that could be done, but these would result in a measurable lack of income.
Example: P platers caught using their phone, why is the phone not confiscated?
Repeat drink drivers, why is their driving license not permanently cancelled?
Why are we not crushing more cars for repeat hoons?
The list goes on.....

Merry Xmas, Larry

Santa wrote:

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The police in all states do a great job, I'm sick of whingers crying persecution when the officers are doing the job they are paid to do, without an effective force we would live in a constant state of anarchy.

The cops are in a no win situation, damned if they do and damned if they don't.

I've been driving for well over 50 years, have been stopped many times for random tests, and unlike others will even admit to copping a few speeding fines, all deserved, have always been treated with respect regardless of the situation.

To the whingers, give the matter a bit of thought, perhaps the logic of the situation will become evident.

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Yeh it's Christmas so I'll agree with Santa on this one,, a good post IMHO, ESPECIALLY the last sentence.

Ontos45 wrote:

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This is us soon the way it's going.

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 Really do you think Australia is that Bad   come on. 

 

Again Those Laws are in your hands through the Ballot Box.

The police are  employed by us,    to enforce the Laws we voted people in to  parliament to legislate for us.

deverall11 wrote:

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However for those who are not convinced, have a long hard look at events that calls on these people to do something other than issue a traffic fine and watch how they fail miserably. One of many examples is how quick they are to shoot someone dead when they are threatened with a knife. Surely a bullet to the legs is not a big ask when your opponent is less then 6 feet away.

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LIke to see how you would cope facing the same situation.

Shooting them in the leg sounds good in theory, but when they have a split second to react are they going to take a chance at hitting a small target like a leg, when if they miss they may well end up being stabbed and pay the ultimate price with their life.



-- Edited by Bill B on Wednesday 24th of December 2014 12:39:48 PM

johnq wrote:

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Relaxing on the deck last night, an arrival came up the now common, "Stopped by a police car for a random check, felt like a criminal".  There was the usual chorus of "Me too" and places and times noted.  All were respectable citizens, with enviable driving records.  All have recent, well-maintained cars.  None of them travelled many kms a year.

Now that police are electronically scanning vehicles for registration, there are speed cameras everywhere and police can conduct random drug and alcohol checks, for what conceivable reason/s are police still stopping and inspecting cars without cause?

I am aware of the idiotic mantra that 'you shouldn't object if you are doing no wrong', but speaking as someone who has had one ticket in a lifetime of driving and that was where the speed limit on an out of way road to a fishing spot had been reduced to deter 'hooning' (which predictably it didn't, they went somewhere else), I cannot see any purpose or worth in police stopping drivers in the evening on a speculative quest to find something wrong or interesting.

What is it?  Are they bored and use the 'bag' as excuse to pose and pry?

When did police get the unfettered right to stop the public without cause?  Do the real police, speaking about the ones who actually get to investigate and collar criminals, realise how much of a public relations liability the local suburban patrols can be?

 

 

I would  imagine about 1830's  when The Metropolitan Police came into force give or take a few years

 

 

Copied from Lawstuff Australia

When can I be interviewed by the police?

 

The police can approach you and ask you questions at any time. Always find out why the police want to talk to you.

 

The police cannot take you anywhere unless they arrest you or you agree to go.

Answering questions from the police

Generally, you only have to give the following personal details when asked by the police:

(a) your name,

(b) your address, and

(c) your date of birth.

A police officer may ask you for these personal details if they reasonably suspect you have committed, are committing or are about to commit an offence, or may be able to assist in the investigation of an offence. They may also ask to see evidence of your details (such as your drivers licence). If you refuse to give them these details without a reasonable excuse, or you lie about any of it, you are committing an offence and can be imprisoned for up to a year.

You have the right to ask the officer to identify themselves. The officer must give you their official details and, if they are not in uniform, show you evidence that they are a police officer.

Apart from these personal details, you generally do not have to answer police questions, sign a statement or take part in a video interview. If you dont want to say anything to the police, you can politely tell them I dont want to answer any questions until I have spoken to my parent/guardian/lawyer.

Sometimes it might be quicker and easier for you to answer questions when you have a simple explanation for a situation. If you do answer questions by the police, you MUST tell the truth, otherwise you could be charged with giving false information to the police. Also, anything you do say to the police will probably be used as evidence in court.

- See more at: http://www.lawstuff.org.au/wa_law/topics/criminal-law/police-interviews#sthash.MqDLsSOe.dpuf

 

 Getting to Know YOUR police   in Perth

http://www.police.wa.gov.au/Aboutus/CommissionerofPolice/Whatreallymatters/GettingtoknowyourPolice/tabid/2119/Default.aspx

I tend to agree BUT the guy who was let out yesterday after 20 years in prison for a crime he probably did not commit would not afre!!!.

A very hard call it is..

Aussie Paul.