The Phantom wrote:

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My major qualification is an oblique sense of humour.

I have learnt that it means anyone can dump on me if they do not see the world the same as me but if I retaliate I become a "negative influence", a "dog hater" and a "heartless individual"

Seems pointless having a qualification in the first place.

 

The Phantom

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 Phanto

That I can wholeheartedly agree with, here am I qualified up the warzoo and living in a caravan dragging it around the country.

I wonder what the poor people are doing tonight

Cheers mate

I'm a qualified copywriter if y'all need an ad written. I'm also an announcer if y'all don't mind announcements made minus teeth. And I'm a wine taster, so keep that in mind when y'all need someone to let ya know if your plonk's any good or not.

sandsmere wrote:

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I see where you are coming from Phil C, and the idea is not a bad one.

The same thing was brought up on another forum and seemed to be going OK until someone was caught out

saying he had X qualifications when he didn't have any.

Very hard to police. Can really only take a persons word. Electrical things seem to get so many contradictive opinions

I now only go to tradesmen actually in business rather than trust opinions on a forum.

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 Thats the smartest idea yet. I have learnt by bitter experience that I will only give general information on this forum. The details should be left to CURRENT tradesmen and women.

Cheers

oldtrack123 wrote:

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sandsmere wrote:

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I see where you are coming from Phil C, and the idea is not a bad one.

The same thing was brought up on another forum and seemed to be going OK until someone was caught out

saying he had X qualifications when he didn't have any.

Very hard to police. Can really only take a persons word. Electrical things seem to get so many contradictive opinions

I now only go to tradesmen actually in business rather than trust opinions on a forum.

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HI

Take care even with current tradesmen

Fines, prosecutions & deregistering regularly takes place, when they are caught out

Some, with potentially deadly defects in their  work 

WA just sent a list of recent cases in gas & electricsand those are only the ones that have been caught

IF you can sort the wheat from the chaff on forums, you may at least suspect when a"Tradesman" is conning you

Beware, they are out there

 

PeterQ

-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Friday 31st of October 2014 05:26:07 PM

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 Totally agree Peter, some of the work that has come into our workshop by supposed "Qualified" auto elecs was down right attrocious and in many cases dangerous. Imagine #0B&S cable, connected to a pair of series connected 150AH batteries, passed though a hole in a metal battery box only protected by standard grade auto convoluted conduit. With no grommets or gland nuts and no circuit protection at the battery.

All my qualifications are out of date now so I try not to give advice, there also the thing that I charge $400.00 / hr for consulting jobs.

So far no takers so the plan works... hehehehe

But if anyone want's to know how inertial navigation works just sign this invoice and away we go...

Cloak wrote:

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All my qualifications are out of date now so I try not to give advice, there also the thing that I charge $400.00 / hr for consulting jobs.

So far no takers so the plan works... hehehehe

But if anyone want's to know how inertial navigation works just sign this invoice and away we go...

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 Good point Cloak. We had 3 INS on the old 747 Classic. I certainly know how to use them, and we were only taught the basics of their operation. One of the reasons one of our aircraft KE007 was shot down by the Ruskies. The crew left Anchorage, Alaska for Seoul with the INS set on Heading instead of Track, with a fair breeze from the south east at cruising altitude......

Today's navigation is by GPS.

-- Edited by Big Gorilla on Friday 31st of October 2014 06:42:42 PM

Big Gorilla wrote:

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Cloak wrote:

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All my qualifications are out of date now so I try not to give advice, there also the thing that I charge $400.00 / hr for consulting jobs.

So far no takers so the plan works... hehehehe

But if anyone want's to know how inertial navigation works just sign this invoice and away we go...

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 Good point Cloak. We had 3 INS on the old 747 Classic. I certainly know how to use them, and we were only taught the basics of their operation. One of the reasons one of our aircraft KE007 was shot down by the Ruskies. The crew left Anchorage, Alaska for Seoul with the INS set on Heading instead of Track, with a fair breeze from the south east at cruising altitude......

Today's navigation is by GPS.

-- Edited by Big Gorilla on Friday 31st of October 2014 06:42:42 PM

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 The F18's still use inertial in their EGI system (Embedded GPS/Inertial Nav System). And they were a bugger to set up the mounting rack for 3 axis.

03_troopy wrote:

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Big Gorilla wrote:

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Cloak wrote:

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All my qualifications are out of date now so I try not to give advice, there also the thing that I charge $400.00 / hr for consulting jobs.

So far no takers so the plan works... hehehehe

But if anyone want's to know how inertial navigation works just sign this invoice and away we go...

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 Good point Cloak. We had 3 INS on the old 747 Classic. I certainly know how to use them, and we were only taught the basics of their operation. One of the reasons one of our aircraft KE007 was shot down by the Ruskies. The crew left Anchorage, Alaska for Seoul with the INS set on Heading instead of Track, with a fair breeze from the south east at cruising altitude......

Today's navigation is by GPS.

-- Edited by Big Gorilla on Friday 31st of October 2014 06:42:42 PM

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 The F18's still use inertial in their EGI system (Embedded GPS/Inertial Nav System). And they were a bugger to set up the mounting rack for 3 axis.

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 Wow, I worked for British Aerospace in the early 80s as a quality Tech, we built parts of the HUD, and flight computer for the first FA18s. Small world 

Phil in my experience I would not rely on any ones piece of paper as an indicator of their knowledge on a particular topic. Prime example is a drivers licence, it says you can drive but it does not make you a competent driver. I have worked with people over the years with all sorts of qualifications that are either incompetent in their field  or only good in one or two aspects of it. This applies to industrial chemists, welders, motor mechanics, roofers and the list goes on. To make a decision on the opinion of just one poster on any forum is not a good idea it is far better to look at all posts to arrive at a conclusion. Jürgen's idea has a lot of merit as it removes the one-upmanship and presents a unified discussion on a particular topic.

Alan

Maybe we need a sticky for all you retired pilots and defence personnel so you can have a ball with all your termonology and stories
Ken

When I rad this post I was tempted to jump in a post my thoughts and had second thoughts,, maybe think about it.

Well I have numerous quals as do many but skills and experience also count.

Some recruiting companies did extensive research into the value of a uni degree in the 90's verses experience. The "norm" they espoused was a degree is equal to 9 years experience in the same field,,,,, ie someone who learnt "on the job".

Don't howl me down folks but that is what were sold as new employees.

Anyway here's a conundrum for you.

I have no quals in legislation except one semester at uni - law intro, but at one stage I was employed to interpret Federal and State legislation in relation to heavy vehicles, vehicle standards, Imported Vehicles, Australian Standards, Australian Design Rules and gleaned all the relevant info together and wrote technical and information bulletins for the government, so that clients could source the info from one bulletin (hopefully, and hopefully in terms the general public could understand).

So I provide info within my knowledge and expertise on this forum and I have saved some people from making some very expensive mistakes.

So how does this sit with your views on quals.

-- Edited by Baz421 on Saturday 1st of November 2014 09:32:33 PM

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When I rad this post I was tempted to jump in a post my thoughts and had second thoughts,, maybe think about it.

Well I have numerous quals as do many but skills and experience also count.

Some recruiting companies did extensive research into the value of a uni degree in the 90's verses experience. The "norm" they espoused was a degree is equal to 9 years experience in the same field,,,,, ie someone who learnt "on the job".

Don't howl me down folks but that is what were sold as new employees.

Anyway here's a conundrum for you.

I have no quals in legislation except one semester at uni - law intro, but at one stage I was employed to interpret Federal and State legislation in relation to heavy vehicles, vehicle standards, Imported Vehicles, Australian Standards, Australian Design Rules and gleaned all the relevant info together and wrote technical and information bulletins for the government, so that clients could source the info from one bulletin (hopefully, and hopefully in terms the general public could understand).

So I provide info within my knowledge and expertise on this forum and I have saved some people from making some very expensive mistakes.

So how does this sit with your views on quals.

-- Edited by Baz421 on Saturday 1st of November 2014 09:32:33 PM

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 Hi Baz

It sits good with me

Perhaps I too can tell You a story 

When I started my apprenticeship as an electrical fitter & mechanic, there was a  3rd yearer who was A genius [photographic memory]

He was right up the Foremans you know what ,[ never did seem to do any real work, fault finding,qworkshop maintenance etc, , until one day just as he was coming out of his time I saw him testing a box of 2phase interference Suppression capacitors.

He was throwing every one of them away so I went up what was wrong with them. now this is a bit tech, but All shorted he said .

He was testing then with a 240VAC series test lamp[ the electrical people should know what comes next.I simply said you cannot test them that way ,you have to use DC

He told me where to go, but instead I went to the foreman & explained what was going on

To my surprise he could not see anything wrong with using AC 

So I was cheeky enough to demonstrate with a 110 vDCgenerator we had which & at that time was used for handlamps in tanks etc.Convinced the foreman that ALL were OK a giving a nice big fat spark

Shortly after that I was given the job of  sole service man serving all the products the co sold through the sales division

That apprentice was doing of an electrical & mechanical engineering diploma course & had passed ALL his apprentice exams with honours & high score for every year of diploma course 

Which by the way I was also doing, 3years  behind him

 

A few years later,during a  service visit to a Supply authority workshop I was walking through with the shop manager & I saw my old mate working as a draughtsman, gave him a nod .as we walked a bit further the manager asked did I know him well , l said  just that we served our time @xxxx

He then said what was he like at "XXX" I smiled & asked why?,  his reply, because he's bloody useless & now I am saddled with him

Very highly qualified ,Bloody hopeless.

PeterQ

-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Sunday 2nd of November 2014 12:04:21 AM

I think I posted the first response and said is this really necessary. After reading all the responses, I'll add this basic information.

Working backwards, after  retiring as an Airline Pilot, I moved to the Philippines where I became engaged in the Hospitality industry. No qualifications there, self taught.

I'm sure no one is really interested in my Flying qualifications, in any event it's not relevant to this Forum.

At the age of 15, at Junior High School in Qld., Year 10 in other States, I gave up on doing Senior  or Year 12 as I was offered an apprenticeship as an Electrician. In those days it was a 5 year course with 2 nights a week at Technical College and one full day a fortnight. At age 20 I was a fully qualified Electrical Fitter and mechanic and obtained an Electrical Contractor's Licence. I eventually sold the business after I obtained a commercial Pilot's Licence and took up aviation as a career. I still hold an Electrical Worker's Licence in Tasmania which allows me to do small jobs, such as testing and tagging leads and small appliances etc. I believe I am well qualified to give advice on electrical matters pertaining to 240 and 415 volt installations.

My low voltage knowledge is very limited and since buying a MH, I have studied up on low voltage and solar installations. I do not believe I am as qualified as some members in low voltage and solar, so I do not respond to these questions on the Forum unless it is really something simple.

I no longer comment on questions relating to 240 volt matters, as a Post I made recently suggests that electrical problems of that nature should be referred to a Licenced Electrician. I do not condone giving electrical advise to unqualified  people who may attempt to work on a 240 volt system themselves, which is entirely illegal.

Was watching a documentary a couple of years ago on Foxtel about a family who moved into a genuine Victorian era house. No power at all just gas lighting in some rooms.
No central heating. No TV. No fridge. Talk about a shock they had to sit around in dim lighting and play cards, and go to bed early.

Bit like camping and caravanning when I was a kid. We had candles and a few Kero lamps absolutely no electricity not even 12VDC. No fridge we had to buy ice at the servo.
And you know what we enjoyed every second and never missed out on a decent meal or drink and bathed in the river...

These days aren't we spoilt.