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Peter_n_Margaret


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Dick0 wrote:

Why would anyone use an avatar on this Forum that is already in use?

It's not about copyright, it's about being courteous and polite.

Perhaps Brodie Allen could seek guidance from the Webmaster.

 

 It is about copyright. 

It is not the property of Burt65 or of Brodie Allen, it is stolen property, so why should either claim its exclusive use, here or anywhere else?

If you want a unique and exclusive avatar, why steal something in the first place. It is not difficult to create something that is actually yours.

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The more people that fly the Australian flag (with pride) the better.

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Girls, girls, I'm going to make it easy for you...

I'm going to delete the account, so please don't cry...

I'm out of here...

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Ineedabiggerboat wrote:

The more people that fly the Australian flag (with pride) the better.

 

Nice to see that there is still some good people around here... Thank you.

I just logged in again just to reply to you, but I won't come back after this...

I was wondering why the Greynomads forum was dead, and I finally I can see the why... biggrin

 

I changed the avatar to keep the children happy, that BTY I got from adventure rider forum sometime possibly 5-6 year, ago where other people are using it, but no point talking to a wall.. I'm going to go busy living, instead of here busy ......

Thanks again, Ineedabiggerboat for reminding everyone what the flag is all about..

Enjoy yourself...

 



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I had a 1200GSA but had to flog it off as a bung hip made it hard to climb up on. Got a new hip and an FJR1300. What a beast.

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I think maybe admin should remove all these tit for tat comments, and definitely not relative to the initial discussion. Wasting everyones time

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Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
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Burt65
See you have pirated my proud avatar.

Not welcome!!! 

Can't you find something original? that flag has been my mark for many years. 

Just so cheap to use somebody elses signature avatar.


 Do you claim that this is your creation and that you own the copyright?

Burt65 probably stole it from the same place you stole it from?

I recall seeing it used on this very forum by others in years past, or was that you changing your user name?

Cheers,

Peter

Peter,

Never claimed anything. And don't.

Its about ethics - something some know little about.

 

Nothing's "stolen" when it is in the public domain. I resent your inference.

 

i have been a contributor to the Nomads for many, many years - much more than my

title indicates but in years gone by under various aliases.

 

I know copyright law well - I have owned in majority three adv agencies.

 

What else would you like to know?

 

B

 

 



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diggerop


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Has anyone else noticed that they are different avatars. Same subject and very similar. But different.

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Dick0


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I think the Webmaster should adjudicate the use of duplicate avatars used on this Forum.

Perhaps it would settle the claims, by some, of copyright and stealing.

Simple etiquette should dictate not using another member's avatar.



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Brodie Allen wrote:
 

Nothing's "stolen" when it is in the public domain. I resent your inference.

 ....snip....

I know copyright law well - I have owned in majority three adv agencies.

  

 You clearly do not know copyright law as well as you think.

If you do not own it, then someone else does and their rights remain unless they have specifically released it for public use. Being "in the public domain" has zero influence on that.

Cheers,

Peter



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In Australia, the article, song, transcript or image generally has a copyright for the life of the creator plus seventy years. So seventy years after the creators death it then enters the public domain. Alternatively, the creator may waive copyright and release the subject matter at any time. There are some exceptions.

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Dick0 wrote:
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Brodie Allen wrote:

Burt65
See you have pirated my proud avatar.

Not welcome!!! 

Can't you find something original? that flag has been my mark for many years. 

Just so cheap to use somebody elses signature avatar.


 Do you claim that this is your creation and that you own the copyright?

Burt65 probably stole it from the same place you stole it from?

I recall seeing it used on this very forum by others in years past, or was that you changing your user name?

Cheers,

Peter

Why would anyone use an avatar on this Forum that is already in use?

It's not about copyright, it's about being courteous and polite.

Perhaps Brodie Allen could seek guidance from the Webmaster.

 

 Yep.  I tend to agree.  Perhaps Burt65 was unaware of Brodie's use of the flag.

Ain't my new one a beaudy.



-- Edited by Cupie on Monday 4th of August 2025 05:29:00 PM

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I hope people wont be too upset if I drag folk back to the reason for this post, which had something to do with batteries (solar) v quiet generator. Well it seems like there is no such thing as a quiet generator, so we'll go with an additional 240ah battery(ITECH) and a 600w solar array, any suggestions on 600w solar panels?

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Generators like 20kVA upwards are quiet because they are built properly.

 

There is absolutely no reason why you can't make a small generator quite. Just have to put in the time & effort to get the acoustic design right. It would be a fun project.



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Aging into the night wrote:

..... any suggestions on 600w solar panels?

 A budget solution is to find some ex house ones being replaced. Check the installers. You can get them for free. Maybe 250 - 300W each. Install as many as you can fit.

Then put a Victron controller on each panel as this prevents partial shading problems and provides excellent trouble diagnosis later.

Cheers,

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Yes, I like the idea of a solar panel/s that can cope with some shade.

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This is my solar set-up. It tiny at 6 x 20 watts, but I have been able to test series & parallel. It has been interesting doing all sorts up tests.

 

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t65231112/custom-6x20-watts-solar-setup-with-mppt/

 

Page one is some shadow information, also at the bottom of page 3.

 



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i notice above the mention of Kings generators - I have 2, one at my home supposedly for
power outages - at least 2x a year we are without power for days due mainly to trees downing
and similarly one for the van since the little Honda was struggling with capacity.

And one for the family that live nearby and suffer the same outages.

BOTH produce nothing like the quoted output (in continuous) and BOTH will cut out without
warning when they get hot (I think heat is the problem).

Both are noisy tinny rattletraps that will drive you nuts.

When taken to Kings for warranty re cutouts, they were sidelined for 4 weeks and came back
untouched, and handed over with a less than apologetic manages untouched!! (I set tags to
see what they might have done).

I have bitten the bullet and replaced mine with a big HONDA and keep it in the back of the
wagon even when running with the tailgate right up, and at home for outages.

Runs everything and I believe that overall, quieter than the small Honda, especially when under load.

BEST THING I EVER DID!

Forgoing for your information.

B

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I have just purchased two small Alvolta solar panels and in a comparison test to my 200W portable panel that I know has put out 219W in ideal conditions the output under winter conditions are comparable.

To reduce the impact of shade you can do as Peter suggested but in my case I run my panels in pairs.  If it is really shady though I just pull out my portable.  

 



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Thinking I might get a 400w to 600w solar array and see how the system copes.

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More food for thought, along with increasing the solar array, I'm toying with the idea of installing a small wind turbine. a lot of places I go to has an almost limitless amount of wind( est coast if Vic & s/est coast of NSW).Especially the cooler months. The warmer months, I stay put due to the bushfire threat.
So the batteries should be ok with less sun and more wind. Those are my thoughts, how about yours?

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Ive played with wind turbines, and you need at least 300w , it takes up room and doesnt operate at lower wind speeds, if you are staying in one place for a while near the coast, yes definitely 



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A couple of days ago I ordered a Honda EU22i. It is the upgraded model of the older unit with an extra 200 watts. dB in the mid 50s at 7 metres so pretty quiet. Came with a bunch of extras for $2200 from the Generator Store. Weighs 20kg. Manageable. In December I bought 2 4.7kw Genpower units from Kogan thru Mills Brands. My plan was to have the ability to parallel them together if needed for home BUT they could not supply a compatible parallel cable nor direct me where to buy one. I understand that without a proper suitable cable it can destroy the electronics. Kogan offered me a $140 discount because of this and I told them to jam it and come and pick them up. I lodged a claim through PayPal and had the full refund in my bank two weeks ago. Their courier picked up the generators last Friday. Doesnt seem to be a lot of communication between Kogan, Mills and PayPal. I suspect that Im going to get another refund. Our power networks are already stressed, fire and wind play havoc with power lines. Nice to know I have at least some useable power source.

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A couple of turbines that have caught my eye are "Silentwind" and "Diffuse energy" turbines, I'll give Diffuse Energy a call in the morning and ask if they make a small version of their turbine.

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Tried contacting Diffuse Energy, I suspect that they're not in business any more. A shame.

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My limited experience with small air turbines has been that they are either very noisy, or ineffective.
Solar is set and forget. It has never been cheaper.
We don't own a generator.
At home we have solar and battery which provides black-out protection.
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Solar is fine if you've got sunshine, where I go there happens to be a lot of shade, which is why I added a second battery. And why I considered a wind turbine. The nice thing about a wind turbine is that it will put out energy/power regardless of time of day or night.
It seems diffuse energy put out a turbine that was relatively quiet and didn't rely on strong winds or even consistent winds. Unfortunately they may be out of business, will find out more when CSIRO get back in touch.
All I want to do is add to the solar array to trickle charge the batteries.
As an aside, we haven't paid a power bill for over 40 years, in other words we haven't been on the grid since we moved to the north east of Victoria, we set up our own power system. Initially ,when we lived in a converted dairy we had a couple of tractor batteries and a couple of solar panels to run the lights whilst we built our stone house.
then we used a Platypus power micro hydro turbine and lead acid batteries, now we've added solar panels and upgraded to lithium batteries.
Upgrades but no bills.

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Have a look at marine turbines for boats.

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Aging into the night wrote:

Solar is fine if you've got sunshine, where I go there happens to be a lot of shade, which is why I added a second battery. 

 Solar does not stop in the shade, it reduces (a fair bit), but when that happens, the loads often reduce too.

Collyn Rivers used to say that adding another battery without an extra ability to charge it was like opening a new bank account without an increase in income.

Cheers,

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If you've got a fridge freezer working, that load doesn't reduce until the thermostat tells it that the temperatures have reached the settings that have been set. The fridge freezer is the fly in the ointment.
And I like to freeze the fish that I catch, anyway if I can find a decent wind turbine I'll probably add that to the power system. The attraction is that it will work day and night if there is wind.

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