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yobarr wrote:
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I have just bought a new Pathfinder, and I must say its fantastic, tows great, ticks all my boxes. will be used for towing and non towing duties. I looked under the tow bar the other day and to my surprise the plate thats welded onto the tow bar, just behind the spare wheel has the max tow ball weight at 200kg. Maximum towing is 2700kg. All other imfo from door pillow stickers to hand book and other advertising stuff is listed at being TBW 270kg and 2700kg max towing. It doesn't worry me that much as my Adria van TB weight is 120kg and ATM is 2000kg. But if I wanted to buy another van one day it could affect what I buy. So what label is correct? 

 Hi Bulldozer.

Have just returned home from a trip and saw your post. From what I understand, you are limited to the lowest towball rating listed on the vehicle or the towbar. As it is, you can not exceed 200kg regardless of what is printed in the manual. My Y61 Patrol has a 3500kg capacity towbar but is limited to 3200 tow capacity by Nissan sticker on door. The same sticker also limits download to 200kg. Nissan don't seem to give much credence to the 10 percent idea. There is no sliding scale thingo on my Patrol.

Cheers,Ben.

 Welcome to the forum, Ben. What you post is correct, but Nissan's weights were all over the place "way back". What year is your car? Later, maybe tomorrow, I will explain how it all works, and how the "sliding scale" is intended to help people who don't have a good understanding of weights. Important that we have year of manufacture of your car. Cheers

 Yobarr. Thanks for your offer of assistance but I fully understand the so called sliding scale. As I have no need or intention of towing a monolithic gin palace around the geography of this land, I don't have to use the info provided by the scale. The info I posted above was for general information as pertaining to the OP, not a call for help.

Cheers, Ben.



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I reckon some one has made a mistake, maybe the tow bar manufacture. Because all the official stickers on the door pillow, drivers hand book, advertising literature, says 270 kg! And the plate tacked on the back of the tow bar is hard to read, you have to take the spare tyre out to read it. I wonder in a court of law who would be deemed correct if something nasty happened. And how many owners would get down and go to the trouble of taking the spare out just to see if there was a hard to read plate tacked on the tow bar. I would say not many! I am going to contact Nissan and see what they say.

 Just supply year of manufacture, model, engine etc and I will try to help you. Cheers

 

Year, 2022.  Model, Nissan Pathfinder, R53 STL. Engine 3.5 V6 petrol. 4WD. ( that what the badge says on the back ) Thanks yobarr.

-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 29th of March 2023 08:04:20 PM

 The "Rating" is for the Tow Bar...not the Vehicle.   The Coupling on my van is rated at 10 Tonne ....there is no way in the world I would hooking up to 10 Tonne....(way beyond the vehicles Manufacturer Rated Capacity.....)   KB



-- Edited by Bulldozer on Wednesday 29th of March 2023 09:13:55 PM

 



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Bulldozer wrote:

I have just bought a new Pathfinder, and I must say its fantastic, tows great, ticks all my boxes. will be used for towing and non towing duties. I looked under the tow bar the other day and to my surprise the plate thats welded onto the tow bar, just behind the spare wheel has the max tow ball weight at 200kg. Maximum towing is 2700kg. All other imfo from door pillow stickers to hand book and other advertising stuff is listed at being TBW 270kg and 2700kg max towing. It doesn't worry me that much as my Adria van TB weight is 120kg and ATM is 2000kg. But if I wanted to buy another van one day it could affect what I buy. So what label is correct? 

 Bulldozer hi.

What is stamped on the towbar is the maxium weight, full stop.

You can bet the dealer fitted a towbar. As happen to our friend.

Our friend a brought a new 2004 Landrover Discovery, tows his single axle caravan weighing 1800kgs comfortably and legally, next part of the story goes he purchased a new ensuited caravan weighing in 2800kgs, guess what the towbar was rated at 2500kgs towing. This Landrover Specialist Mechanic running his own mechanicail business was not impressed when another friend brought it to his attention 500ks from his own workshop, a new towbar fitted to resolve his problem.

Sorry had the story a little wrong but now correct.

At about sometime I must confess we owned a camper trailer, had a tow bar fitted to the car, changed campers and found the towbar was a faction light for the job, not long after purchased another car to do tne job.



-- Edited by Radar on Thursday 30th of March 2023 01:14:09 PM

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The plate on the tow bar says 2700kg for towing capacity but only 200kg ball, should be 270kg ball. I think Ill take the car back to the Nissan dealer and tell them please explain. Thats going to be interesting.

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The plate on the tow bar says 2700kg for towing capacity but only 200kg ball, should be 270kg ball. I think Ill take the car back to the Nissan dealer and tell them please explain. Thats going to be interesting.

 Wouldn't be worrying about it too much as Nissan literature says 270kg. Cheers

 

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-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 30th of March 2023 07:33:53 PM

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Yes yobarr I agree, thanks. I will talk to Nissan and see what they say.

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Hi,
unfortunately, the limit stamped on the towbar ie.200kg is what you are stuck with. It doesn't matter what Nissan has to say. The only way around the problem is to get a new towbar with the relevant rating on the plate.
As I said earlier, my towbar is rated at 3500kg but the Patrol is rated at 3200kg. The lowest number always rules. Hope this helps.
Cheers, Ben.

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Ben is spot on,

However there must be something that makes the TBW lighter, a check at Haymen Reece for the current model Pathfinder their bar is rated 2700/200kg, yet the TAG towbar is rated at 2700/270 kg



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Bulldozer, earlier in the thread I pasted a snippet from the Nissan website.

Towing capacity is subject to towbar/towball capacity and is based on the fitment of a Genuine Nissan towbar. Towing capacity figure described is a maximum figure. Actual towing capacity depends on the laden mass of the vehicle, driving conditions, fitment of any accessories or towing equipment limitations including the maximum towball download. The maximum towball download for this vehicle is 270kg.

If you are going to be talking to Nissan I suggest you ask them to give you a link or printout for the detail of what the that statement means. If it is only staying within GVM, GCM, etc, then no drama. But do they still have something that changes limits according to what weight is on the ball? What driving conditions affect the limit?



-- Edited by Are We Lost on Friday 31st of March 2023 10:48:39 AM

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Something doesn't make sense. I think a stuff up somewhere. Im being punished for buying a new car, I knew it, I just knew it! nono



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Something doesn't make sense. I think a stuff up somewhere. Im being punished for buying a new car, I knew it, I just knew it! nono

 Don't panic Warren, as it's nowhere near as bad as you think! I'll TRY to PM you later today to explain! Cheers



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Your a good man yobarr.!



Cheers Warren.

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Your a good man yobarr.!

Cheers Warren.

 Hi Warren. PMs sent to you. Cheers



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Had another look at the tow bar plate that is hidden away and it is a Nissan Tow bar with the same numbers that match the bar and tongue. Nissan does say in the hand book that the label on the B pillar is gospel! that what you go by. end of story. 270 ball, 2700 bar. All labels ect have the same numbers. But yeah, not worried, as ive said max on my Adria is 130kg ball, 2000kg ATM....Thanks for the imfo yabarr much appreciated. 


Cheers, Wazza
-- Edited by Bulldozer on Monday 3rd of April 2023 06:52:02 AM



-- Edited by Bulldozer on Monday 3rd of April 2023 06:57:57 AM

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