Fifth Covid-19 Vaccination.

landy · Guru

RE: Fifth Covid-19 Vaccination.

Xyz · Veteran Member

Yes it appears to effect us differently, some get it and end up with a mild cold and proudly boast" whats all the fuss about" others like BC who cop it bad.
Hopefully all goes well BC and recovery comes soon.
If you can get the antivirals they really help, as we were lucky enough to
Ian

Bicyclecamper · Guru

Yeah, thanks guys, just can't get to town until next week, by then wont need them, my wife will though as she has it too now. Currently I have lost all taste and smell,everything tastes like water, literally no taste at all. Already had 4 boosters but the last one was 10 months ago.

-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Friday 3rd of March 2023 05:23:45 PM

Gundog · Guru

So whats the point of having the 5th jab, when the evidence is clear that the jabs dont prevent you from getting Covid nor prevent tranmission of the virus.

The biggest con job was preformed on the worlds population. by media and governments just to control the population by telling lies, now it comes to light that one state government blew 2 million dollars on how to con the population to apply even greater dracoinian restrictions on the states population.

Aussie1 · Guru

Gundog wrote:
So whats the point of having the 5th jab, when the evidence is clear that the jabs dont prevent you from getting Covid nor prevent tranmission of the virus.
The biggest con job was preformed on the worlds population. by media and governments just to control the population by telling lies, now it comes to light that one state government blew 2 million dollars on how to con the population to apply even greater dracoinian restrictions on the states population.

May be clear to you however, the point is others have a different opinion and will be quite happy having the 5th jab, as my bride and I have just had.

Good for you if you are happy in your skin, without a jab.

Cheers and stay safe Cobber.

Gundog · Guru

Aussie1 wrote:
May be clear to you however, the point is others have a different opinion and will be quite happy having the 5th jab, as my bride and I have just had.

I fail to understand how you still believe the lies, considering chemical companies have admitted they lied about its protections

Aussie1 · Guru

Gundog wrote:
Aussie1 wrote:
May be clear to you however, the point is others have a different opinion and will be quite happy having the 5th jab, as my bride and I have just had.

I fail to understand how you still believe the lies, considering chemical companies have admitted they lied about its protections

I am not responsible for what you fail to understand, however, given you choose to believe whatever some chemical companies (or so you say have admitted). I will stay with the sensible folks and have faith in the jabs. But all the best with your conspiracy theries. Take care Cobber and stay well.

Cheers.

Bicyclecamper · Guru

Got my taste back, but it is different, that is don't like the taste of coffee now, or spiced rum, my favourite tipple. Smell is back, but everything smells sweet. Hope it is not permanent.

dorian · Guru

New COVID-19 wave likely underway in NSW, weekly surveillance report shows:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-09/new-covid-wave-nsw-march-2023/102073104

The next wave of COVID transmission may be underway in NSW, new data indicates.

Alexandra Martiniuk, a public health expert from the University of Sydney, said the uptick in emergency department presentations indicated the case numbers signalled a true increase.

There have been four waves of COVID in NSW since Omicron became the dominant variant at the beginning of 2022, each one smaller than the last.

Professor Martiniuk said high vaccination rates were contributing to the smaller number of cases in successive waves.

"The other thing is that now we have less of a COVID-naive population. So most people have had at least one COVID infection. And so that does protect," she said.

She said all the new sub-variants were in the Omicron family, though experts were watching for new variants that could cause bigger waves.

Whenarewethere · Guru

As long as we can move combine harvesters from Mildura via Melbourne to Sydney by air freight to Wentworth NSW, I don't see Covid as an issue.

Kebbin · Guru

Gundog do you by chance wear a tin foil hat these days to compensate for the aluminium armoured plate box you once sat in & thought of as a second home? ;)

Plain Truth · Guru

I have my tin foil hat on. If you remember in Oct 2019 they had an simulation on an up coming Respiratory Pandemic ,it was called Event 201. It even had Dr, Fauci,s prediction of a pandemic during Trump's term in office. Don't believe me check it out for yourself.

Now these same people have had another meeting in Oct.2022.Yes another simulation,another coming pandemic even worse than the last one.

It was called Catastrophic Contagion Event - SEERS 2025,get ready for more jabs and boosters and boosters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udvFITd3PIk

Gundog · Guru

Interesting that we have respondants that have aquired Covid, may one ask where or how you think you caught it ?

genuine question because we have had few friends that have caught it, as we live in a caravan park which you could consider as fertile location for retransimission of the virus. considering the transient population.

By the by I do use tin foil for cooking never made a hat from it though.

Cuppa · Guru

Gundog wrote:
Interesting that we have respondants that have aquired Covid, may one ask where or how you think you caught it ?
genuine question because we have had few friends that have caught it, as we live in a caravan park which you could consider as fertile location for retransimission of the virus. considering the transient population.

We (my wife & I) know precisely where & how we caught it. After 2+ years of avoiding it altogether, by not being in any location where community transmission occurred, we caught it from a visitor here who arrived with no symptoms but developed them whilst here, & passed it on to my wife, we believe a day before before he developed symptoms as he isolated once symptoms developed 24-36 hours after his arrival. There were 7 others in group he arrived with, 3 of whom he had travelled from Brisbane with, by car. No other group members got sick. I became sick & tested positive 7 days after my wife. He believed he must have caught it whilst shopping in Cairns, without a mask, 2 days before arriving here.

It is not an experience I'd recommend to anyone. In my case it was 7 weeks before I was pretty much fully recovered. We were both tested negative on the day after the visitor tested positive, & were given our 5th shot (mistakenly we thought at the time it was our 4th). My wife's symptoms began 24 to 36 hours later & we think that the being so close to her vaccination that this may have made her symptoms worse.

Overall though, we choose to believe that things could have been far worse for both of us if we had not had previous vaccinations, & will continue to have vaccinations in the future as a safeguard.

If nothing else, I think our experience shows that transmission can vary between different folk, with some taking longer to get symptoms than others, and some 'getting lucky'. It is quite possible that there were symptom free carriers of the virus within the visitor group.

Bicyclecamper · Guru

I think I got it from the RSM club, 2 weeks ago yesterday, or from the gym, I wasn't wearing a mask at the time intentionally as I actually wanted to get it, and the latest version, so I had better protection for future versions. Protection for the future from getting the virus is better then the vaccine protection, but I will have a 5th vaccine in 6 months though, as it all helps.

Tony Bev · Guru

Gundog wrote:
Interesting that we have respondants that have aquired Covid, may one ask where or how you think you caught it ?

Both the wife and I, caught covid in Tamworth, while travelling

We will never know, who we caught it off, or how many others we passed it on to
As I am led to believe that, you could be passing it on, two days before you get symptoms

Being responsible people, (although we did not have to), we went into isolation, so as not to spread it

The bottom line (for me), is that I would have been much better off, not catching it

Plain Truth · Guru

Plain Truth wrote:
I have my tin foil hat on. If you remember in Oct 2019 they had an simulation on an up coming Respiratory Pandemic ,it was called Event 201. It even had Dr, Fauci,s prediction of a pandemic during Trump's term in office. Don't believe me check it out for yourself.
Now these same people have had another meeting in Oct.2022.Yes another simulation,another coming pandemic even worse than the last one.
It was called Catastrophic Contagion Event - SEERS 2025,get ready for more jabs and boosters and boosters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udvFITd3PIk
Doing a bit more research,could this be the new 2025 SEERS variant in 2025. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udvFITd3PIk

Gaylehere · Guru

Tony Bev,

Just curious, As you caught it whilst travelling, where did you go to, to isolate.

Tony Bev · Guru

Gaylehere wrote:
Tony Bev,

Just curious, As you caught it whilst travelling, where did you go to, to isolate.

Hi Gaylehere

I went to the free camp opposite the Tamworth Airport, on the Oxley Highway, about 8 K's from Tamworth

I stayed there for 10 days, as there is water and a dump point available

After 10 days, a RAT test showed that we were no longer positive

I then very slowly went to our daughters place in South Australia

Since covid started, I always carry enough food for at least 5 days

We went to the shops on about day 7 after the positive RAT test, which would have been day 9 after we had caught covid

We kept well away from other people between Tamworth and our daughters place, as she works in the health industry

Gaylehere · Guru

Thanks for the information. We intend to go travelling in a couple months time and neither of us have had covid and I was wondering what we'd do if we caught it on the road. I guess it will depend, if, when, where and how sick.

We will get our 5th jab and flu shots before we go.

Thanks again. Cheers.

-- Edited by Gaylehere on Friday 10th of March 2023 08:59:51 PM

msg · Guru

OK The powers that be have admitted that the vaccine does not stop you getting covid nor does it stop you spreading the virus around, but they say by having the jab it will help you not to get as sick as you might if you did not have the jab.

How do they work that out?

Especially when a lot of the numbers are no longer being recorded.

I still say that the 30 or so deaths in NSW a week is far too many.

It seems its just got too hard for the Govt to deal with now.

dorian · Guru

msg wrote:
I still say that the 30 or so deaths in NSW a week is far too many.

The rolling 7-day average death rate is 2 per day, nationally.

https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/case-numbers-and-statistics?language=und#covid19-associated-deaths

A vaccine doesn't attack the virus. It's not like an antibiotic. A vaccine only prepares the body to fight the virus by training it with a simulated copy of the real thing.

If a body's naturally acquired immunity wanes after 3 months, and if a body's vaccine acquired immunity also wanes after 3 months, then the vaccine is doing all that is possible. In that respect the vaccine is a success.

Am I wrong?

-- Edited by dorian on Saturday 11th of March 2023 07:09:07 AM

msg · Guru

dorian wrote:
msg wrote:
I still say that the 30 or so deaths in NSW a week is far too many.
The rolling 7-day average death rate is 2 per day, nationally.
https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/case-numbers-and-statistics?language=und#covid19-associated-deaths

A vaccine doesn't attack the virus. It's not like an antibiotic. A vaccine only prepares the body to fight the virus by training it with a simulated copy of the real thing.
If a body's naturally acquired immunity wanes after 3 months, and if a body's vaccine acquired immunity also wanes after 3 months, then the vaccine is doing all that is possible. In that respect the vaccine is a success.
Am I wrong?

-- Edited by dorian on Saturday 11th of March 2023 07:09:07 AM

You are saying the same thing except you are putting a favorable spin on things.

2 a day? (7 day rolling average death rate) or 730 a year just in NSW. Regardless, it's still a lot.

Is that not worth mentioning? or is not openly reporting it helpful? The information is there, just tucked away on the individual health websites. When it is reported its by state there's no consolidated figures for the whole country. Though I'm sure if you dig hard enough its there somewhere.

About vaccines. All I can say is more spin words from you. In a nutshell they are saying it does not protect you or anybody else from getting it. Unlike older vaccines. measles, mumps or tetanus. Perhaps it's this particular virus group that's the problem so it requires an entirely new definition of a vaccine.

I was pointing out that it is now only claimed that the vaccine stops you from getting as sick as you might if you happen to get it. (Unlike earlier when it first came out) Just asking, how do they work that out? Especially with the meagre availability of stats. Not about what it is and how it works.

Why is some news hungry journalist not seeking out this information and reporting it? I am sure it would be of more interest to a lot of people than a lot of the "stories" being published at the moment.

As a supposedly vulnerable person, I would like to know the risks associated with mixing freely in the community, and how bad it really is or not. Is the risk of catching the virus worse than the risk of catching the flu? It would seem the consequences are worse, but are they?

-- Edited by msg on Saturday 11th of March 2023 11:35:26 AM

Aussie1 · Guru

msg wrote:

As a supposedly vulnerable person, I would like to know the risks associated with mixing freely in the community, and how bad it really is or not. Is the risk of catching the virus worse than the risk of catching the flu? It would seem the consequences are worse, but are they?

-- Edited by msg on Saturday 11th of March 2023 11:35:26 AM

Perhaps ask your doctor or if you want the real answer ask Google biggrin

msg · Guru

Aussie1, Why is it not on the official health website? Google is full of AI trotting out the preprogrammed thoughts we are supposed to think. Doctors won't say what they think. They might get sued.

dorian · Guru

msg wrote:

I was pointing out that it is now only claimed that the vaccine stops you from getting as sick as you might if you happen to get it. (Unlike earlier when it first came out) Just asking, how do they work that out? Especially with the meagre availability of stats. Not about what it is and how it works.

There are plenty of real world stats. Compare the death rates in America against Australia. Here we had universal consensus amongst all the governments whereas America had a moron at the helm, and lots of sub-morons in the predominantly Republican states.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/ (1 in 585)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ (1 in 92)

-- Edited by dorian on Saturday 11th of March 2023 11:47:50 AM