Fuel expected to rise to $2.50 l

deverall11 · Guru

RE: Fuel expected to rise to $2.50 l

Whenarewethere · Guru

We all installed 3 phase 20amp per phase & a seperate 240v line as we were installing a new Main Network Board in our block of units. The 3 phase & seperate 240v circuits connected to each Unit's meter, cost us each $500 extra for the 30 metre run to the garages. A no brainer in 2017. Could use it for welding!

We also allowed to install a future power supply for a credit charger EV charger for residents without a garage. Blocks of units will be required to add charging facilities. If you are on your body corp executive committee this issues will have been discussed unless your building has its head in the sand. We have factored this expense into the 10 year maintenance plan, which is required in NSW at least.

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

EVs are not likely to get cheaper in Australia until the government has reasonable emission standards. Until then, Australia will be the dumping ground for ICE vehicles and only given the option of the expensive EV models.

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Dev .. what size was the caravan the Kia was towing ? Seeing most vehicles owned by nomads either to or actual motorhome ? Yes one car did a trip on Nullarbor recently! It was charged with piston generator !! With back up vehicles !! Not exactly efficient!

deverall11 · Guru

Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Dev .. what size was the caravan the Kia was towing ? Seeing most vehicles owned by nomads either to or actual motorhome ? Yes one car did a trip on Nullarbor recently! It was charged with piston generator !! With back up vehicles !! Not exactly efficient!

Expecting an EV to tow a caravan is not on the list of priorities in an area that is still developing. EVs may not have the same capabilities as existing ICE vehicles nor did the same new invented ICE

that replaced the steam engine. I am almost sure there would've been someone wanting to know if the new ICE powered vehicle was able to tow a caravan.

If the world revolved around stick-in-the-mud people we would not have Sunday shopping (who needs it), 24hr fuel station (just fill up before 5pm),

beer available after 6pm in a pub (just drink all you can before 6pm and go home), ladies allowed to go to pubs (nay she can wait till I come home) but to name a few.

Wake up you lot, accept the fact things are changing and this is the future. Luckily those moving forward do not have backward thinking.

-- Edited by Webmaster on Thursday 17th of March 2022 11:21:19 AM

Dicko1 · Senior Member

deverall11 wrote:
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Dev .. what size was the caravan the Kia was towing ? Seeing most vehicles owned by nomads either to or actual motorhome ? Yes one car did a trip on Nullarbor recently! It was charged with piston generator !! With back up vehicles !! Not exactly efficient!
Expecting an EV to tow a caravan is not on the list of priorities in an area that is still developing. EVs may not have the same capabilities as existing ICE vehicles nor did the same new invented ICE
that replaced the steam engine. I am almost sure there would've been someone wanting to know if the new ICE powered vehicle was able to tow a caravan.
If the world revolved around stick-in-the-mud people we would not have Sunday shopping (who needs it), 24hr fuel station (just fill up before 5pm),
beer available after 6pm in a pub (just drink all you can before 6pm and go home), ladies allowed to go to pubs (nay she can wait till I come home) but to name a few.
Wake up you lot, accept the fact things are changing and this is the future. Luckily those moving forward do not have backward thinking.

-- Edited by Webmaster on Thursday 17th of March 2022 11:21:19 AM

Totally agree. 100% guarantee that within 10 years 80% of vehicles on the road will be electric/hybrid. Technology is roaring ahead. Faster than you think.

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Not for most on here then seeing most tow caravans !!! Just ignoring one major thing it wont do !! Doesnt mean it goes away !! Or better !!

DMaxer · Guru

I dont even think it will take ten years. I think the only thing holding it back is the realisation that countries who have in the past relied upon oil production for their wealth may have catastrophic economic issues when the price of oil collapses. This is presently addressed by the taxes imposed on electric vehicles but that is just a dam waiting to burst. With the progress of technology I dont think it will be too difficult to give an EV sufficient torque to tow a van.

KJB · Guru

DMaxer wrote:
I dont even think it will take ten years. I think the only thing holding it back is the realisation that countries who have in the past relied upon oil production for their wealth may have catastrophic economic issues when the price of oil collapses. This is presently addressed by the taxes imposed on electric vehicles but that is just a dam waiting to burst. With the progress of technology I dont think it will be too difficult to give an EV sufficient torque to tow a van.

Torque is not the problem - EV's are the King of Torque (instantly too.....) keeping the "fuel" up to them for extended periods/distances without frequent ,long "fuel up" stops is the problem. KB

Whenarewethere · Guru

DMaxer wrote:
With the progress of technology I don't think it will be too difficult to give an EV sufficient torque to tow a van.

The solution to one's towing concerns!

https://www.wabteccorp.com/locomotive/alternative-fuel-locomotives/flxdrive

BHP, Rio Tinto & FMG have ordered battery locomotives. Their trains are typically carrying 38,000 tonnes or ore.

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Im sure the weight of batteries come into somewhere along the lines ? We have to consider weight now !! Plus where and how is the batteries being charged ? Pie in the eye stuff just yet ! Need a lot more infrastructure, solar farms etc . Hybrid seems the best option ! Its worked well on trans since steam was replaced !! In vehicles on much smaller scale !!

tea spoon · Senior Member

i have an ol pushbike so if fuel goes up im ok or ill walk to the shops they arnt very far from my place ..........ill leave the car in the carport ......its sad to realize the days of vanning for me may end this way and not from my doing .........

tea spoon · Senior Member

i read that crude is to be $200 a barrel ..........so 5 bucks will be a litre of fuel if this happens .......we better get used to it as it aint going down less than $2.00 a litre so im reading ever again the days of fuel to go for me is coming to an end...... sadly i was hoping to make my own decision when to give up vanning ........im now looking for another bit larger gopher one i can go to the shops on .........

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

Whenarewethere wrote:
DMaxer wrote:
With the progress of technology I don't think it will be too difficult to give an EV sufficient torque to tow a van.

The solution to one's towing concerns!

https://www.wabteccorp.com/locomotive/alternative-fuel-locomotives/flxdrive

BHP, Rio Tinto & FMG have ordered battery locomotives. Their trains are typically carrying 38,000 tonnes or ore.

That hybrid combined with hydrogen as the fuel would work beautifully in my opinion.

oldbloke · Guru

Gee, talk about off topic. Lol

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

The more fuel prices are jacked the sooner ( hopefully) better systems come along !! Fuel companies are doing themselves no favours with the gauging going in !! $90 to fill the little Corolla . Even then it wasnt totally full !! Hmm 350ltre tank in motorhome ?? Thank goodness topped up at $1.05 cpl !!

Dicko1 · Senior Member

Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Im sure the weight of batteries come into somewhere along the lines ? We have to consider weight now !! Plus where and how is the batteries being charged ? Pie in the eye stuff just yet ! Need a lot more infrastructure, solar farms etc . Hybrid seems the best option ! Its worked well on trans since steam was replaced !! In vehicles on much smaller scale !!

I watch my weight very seriously. Pajero,s that is. However there are many thousands of illegal overweight vehicles and rigs travelling our roads every day. Many drivers couldn,t care less. Adding the 250Kg electric batteries and motor to the caravans axles will greatly improve the distance one can travel. Vans need to be made lighter and smaller. The bloody great monstrosities we see on the roads will hopefully die out. One thing for sure...electrics will be making huge inroads from now on..

Whenarewethere · Guru

Instead of adding batteries, add foam insulation to the fridge. Next to no weight & reduces energy consumption substantially.

Whenarewethere · Guru

Amortising fuel costs!

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Gaylehere · Guru

Fuel is down to $1.97 in the Toowoomba area but a few servos still have their prices just over the $2 mark.

shakey55 · Senior Member

Update everyone - thanks for your messages of support ... I'm ok but pretty rattled after being robbed at the service station in Wollongong this morning. After it was over and my heart stopped racing, I called the police and they arrived within like five minutes, - they were very helpful in calming me down as Id lost a lot of money. They asked me if I knew who did it. I told them yes I sure did, it was Pump number 3.

DMaxer · Guru

With the price of fuel climbing rapidly I am sure that quite a few of us are getting concerned about future long distance travel. Never fear, I have come up with a solution.

Instead of identifying as Grey Nomads I think we need a change of identity. My suggestion is that we now identify as a touring pentecostal group. We could gather at happy hours and after sufficient lubrication we would have little difficulty appearing glazy eyed whilst waving one hand in the air as we spoke in tongues about WDH and overpriced caravan parks.

To attract Commonwealth funding to allow us to travel and camp for free we would need an appropriate ethos. I would suggest our raison d'etre is that we are looking for coal deposits, places to build imaginary dams and educating the public that climate change was just a hoax.

Now I fully understand this will not be easy to accomplish on our own. I would suggest that as Brian Houston has a bit of spare time on his hands we could engage him as a consultant. Lets face it, Hillsong got over 40 million so I am sure he could give us some tips as to how to get a few shekels thrown our way before judgement day in May.

I predict a bright future for us when the Great One hears our story.

-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 27th of March 2022 05:09:39 PM

-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 27th of March 2022 05:10:41 PM

SoloMC · Senior Member

Diesel has dropped 20 cpl in pt Lincoln over 3 days.

oldbloke · Guru

Your a funny bugger Dmaxer.

oldbloke · Guru

Lol. Shakey55 is another funny bugger

oldbloke · Guru

Just ban vans over 2800kg.
1. lots of fuel saved.
2. No more arguments about WDHs or rear up grades.
3. No longer have to envy the best truckie the world has ever known. (the one wearing a cape and undies)
4. More members will stay.

Cheers :) OB

Whenarewethere · Guru

Our fuel saving tips:

1^. We sleep in the back of our custom insulated car.

2^. Having a car only, can find infinitely more free camping locations in far nicer locations easily avoiding the riff-raff.

3^. With a good headwind down to 7.8L/100km.

4^. Hand grind our own coffee (personal fuel).

Tony Bev · Guru

Now that we are getting back on track

I look on the bright side

During the last two years of restricted travelling, I travelled less than one quarter, of my usual annual road distance
Therefore my fuel travelling cost, would have been one quarter, of what I would have budgeted to spend

Fuel price is what it is, we may grumble about it around the campfire, but unfortunately it may go even higher

DMaxer · Guru

The price went up by about 50c virtually overnight. Now that the full tax has been cut by 22 cents I wonder how long it will take to come down.

Whenarewethere · Guru

It won't come down.

Fuel companies will drop the fuel excise accordingly then add more or less the same amount to their profit margin. Probably better to buy shares in said companies!