Windows 11

Plain Truth · Guru

Windows 11

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

I don't use Micro$oft but I would imagine after a while that 10 would not be supported and that would prevent security updates being loaded onto your computer.

Mike Harding · Guru

Not really, for most people.

I won't be updating from 10 to 11 for at least a couple of years, probably longer... if I haven't switched to Linux by then...?

Are We Lost · Guru

I have not looked into it, and the following comments are based on my experience with Microsoft, not from direct reading or knowledge.

Being Microsoft, I can imagine there will be some tweaks, probably mostly in security and visual, while taking some options away. Some will be improvements and some will annoy the hell out of you. Some things will break. Maybe some of your older software will no longer work.

But you can be sure there will be more ways for Microsoft to make money from you, perhaps by more intensive use of their data collection.

I waited several years before moving on from Windows 7 but some newer software won't run on W7 (e.g. Wikicamps). I still prefer W7 so have heavily tweaked W10 to give me back some of W7 features.

Like Mike, I am considering Linux but I use too much Windows software to make the change easy.

Mike Harding · Guru

Are We Lost wrote:
Like Mike, I am considering Linux but I use too much Windows software to make the change easy.

I suspect you are aware of it but... you could switch to Linux and run occasional Windows apps. under Virtual Box - I'm currently doing that, but the other way around, and find VB works very well.

Since I retired and no longer need things such as PCB layout and similar Windows only apps I find that most of the stuff I use - web browser, Libre Office etc - is available under Linux which is a lot less resource hogging although it's *still* more of a hacker's OS than Windows, which is both good and bad.

Are We Lost · Guru

Or another way is dual boot. I did that with W7 and W10 for a while, both accessing the same data drive but finished up just staying with W10 to keep life simpler. I think I would find the virtual box much the same.

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

I've used Ubuntu (Linux) for decades, I prefer the Mate desktop, and had no problems with it.

There are usually the equivalent free applications for Micro$oft applications. For example, Gimp for photoshop, Libre Office for Micro$oft Office, etcetera. Installation is *usually* just an install command. Having said that there are some software that only run on Windows and if you need that then a dual boot or virtual machine should allow that.

Phlipper · Senior Member

My thoughts....I would wait until you are forced to upgrade to 11, probably more than 2 yrs away. Frankly, I never quite understood why Windows 7 had to change, it was a very good platform.

JeffRae · Guru

Plain Truth wrote:
Is there any advantages to update to Windows 11

Yes, you get the newest and the best, more visually pleasing.

Mike Harding · Guru

JeffRae wrote:
Plain Truth wrote:
Is there any advantages to update to Windows 11
Yes, you get the newest and the best, more visually pleasing.

Newest is not, by definition, best... remember Windows Vista?

dorian · Guru

I use both OS-es. I really can't tell the difference.

Umpie1 · Senior Member

Windows 10 will be supported until late 2025

Mike Harding · Guru

Umpie1 wrote:
Windows 10 will be supported until late 2025

Oh God!

Not four more years of unsolicited updates, please!

JeffRae · Guru

Not adverse to running Linux, but find I prefer Windows 11.

Never had a problem with Vista either

StewG · Senior Member

I'm currently using Win 10 and find it ok, but since my two PCs are (according to M$) are not suitable for Win 11, I will continue using Win 10 until 2025 and possibly go to Linux then. I have already weaned myself off Microsoft Office by using Mozilla Thunderbird (instead of Outlook) and Libre Office (instead of Word, Excel, etc.). There is no way that I will go back to M$.

laurieoz · Senior Member

StewG wrote:
I'm currently using Win 10 and find it ok, but since my two PCs are (according to M$) are not suitable for Win 11, I will continue using Win 10 until 2025 and possibly go to Linux then. I have already weaned myself off Microsoft Office by using Mozilla Thunderbird (instead of Outlook) and Libre Office (instead of Word, Excel, etc.). There is no way that I will go back to M$.

Always used thunderbird forever.

Tried outlook for a few days years ago

But I have no problems or complaints about win 10

Laurie

Loki · Senior Member

I'm using Windows 11 on a new computer, i7 processor, and have no problems, I don't do complex things but it works well with Word, Excel and basic photo editing as well as internet. The display isn't quite the same as W10 but intuitive enough. I have heard that Ryzen processors don't handle W11 well but have no actual experience on that.

Safe travels all

JeffRae · Guru

Loki,
Our grand daughter just bought a gaming computer with Windows 11 and Ryzen, she's more than happy with it
Jeffrae

Meredith · Senior Member

I wouldn't be upgrading yet. I had to upgrade one of my computers for work as I test computer software and I've had a few glitches with it. Nothing major but I wouldn't be updating an existing computer yet, wait probably a year for some more patches to be done, and even then I can't see any real benefits for the average user.

Mike Harding · Guru

Windows 11!?

Does that mean it's going to take 11 times as long to update as Windows 10?

W10 just did another unrequested update which put my notebook out of action for three hours and cost GBs of my pay by byte data.

Linux is looking more attractive by the day.

oldbloke · Guru

Mike Harding wrote:
Not really, for most people.
I won't be updating from 10 to 11 for at least a couple of years, probably longer... if I haven't switched to Linux by then...?

I'm beginning to think Linux is the way to go.

Fester55 · Veteran Member

Mx Linux and Mint are 2 popular distros for people making the change from Windows relatively pain-free.

Go check Distrowatch for more info.

-- Edited by Fester55 on Monday 17th of January 2022 10:08:49 AM

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

Fester55 wrote:
Mx Linux and Mint are 2 popular distros for people making the change from Windows relatively pain-free.

Go check Distrowatch for more info.

-- Edited by Fester55 on Monday 17th of January 2022 10:08:49 AM

I prefer the Mate distro for Ubuntu because of the drop down menus. I prefer the logical categories. I'm pretty sure that there's a Mint distro for Ubuntu. I know that here are many to choose from.

Just in case someone doesn't know, Mate, Mint, etcetera are different ways of displaying the underlying Linux OS.

bobsa · Senior Member

Beware window 11 will not support, pre microsoft office 2013

-- Edited by bobsa on Monday 17th of January 2022 11:32:25 AM

-- Edited by bobsa on Monday 17th of January 2022 11:55:34 AM

86GTS · Guru

I'm still using Window 7 Home Premium. It works great for anything that I want to do.

Mike Harding · Guru

I'm still using XP on a 10" netbook which I mainly use for writing, it is fast and efficient and I have no intention of changing it.

However, I have almost decided to change my main notebook to dual boot Linux MX and begin a migration from Windows to Linux this mainly due to the Windows forced upgrade policy which is driving me around the bend!

G.R.R Martin wrote The Game of Thrones books on a MSDOS computer running Word Perfect V4.0 - new is not always best :)

Are We Lost · Guru

You could always turn off updates via Group Policy.

I do widescale updates once every few months ... about time to do another one now. Before doing so I make an image backup so I can revert to the old version if there is something I don't like. Maybe I can find out what particular is the problem and blacklist that one.

The problem with continuing to run XP and W7 they are no longer being updated at all. Even disallowing updates for a few months as I do means my PC is still open to exploits that would otherwise be plugged. I am hoping for a bit if luck and my firewall and virus detector being updated and protect me. It's worked for many years now.

My brother had his primary work machine with no internet access, and I dedicated one for browsing and emails, with nothing else on it. A solution, but not for me.

On the other side of the coin, what hacker would bother to create an exploit for W7, let alone XP. Such a small percentage still in use. So running XP that has not been updated in 10 years is probably quite safe.

I also hate version updates. Back a few years ago I had a W7 laptop and decided to accept the upgrade to W10. It failed with some meaningless message, but was unable to back out and recover the old version. I had to format the disc and install from clean. No real hardship as it turns out because I like to do this periodically to get rid of accumulated junk.

Mike Harding · Guru

Are We Lost wrote:
You could always turn off updates via Group Policy.

Not on the "Home" edition.

Are We Lost · Guru

That's what I said a while ago but someone pointed out that you can install it. The files are already there. Works on earlier versions pre W10 as well. Not sure about W11.

Group Policy Editor for Windows Home.

Mike Harding · Guru

I installed it two or three years ago but, it seems, subsequent updates remove it!?