Well here we go, a few days into 2022 and two topics closed already due to, frankly, nasty responses and remarks.
As a keen member and reader of this great informative website I must say it never ceases to amaze me how some, not many, on here are so very quick to have a go at fellow members. You don't need to be cutting to make a point.
Keyboard warriors not welcome I say.
How about we have a New Year with a bit of understanding and kindness and cut the nastiness?
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"life is too short to spend it with people who suck the happiness out of you"
Really shouldn't need to be reminded about this as it is clearly stated in the 'sticky'. Unfortunately, a very small minority of misanthropes stand out unnecessarily and it leads to responses such as yours. We all feel your frustration, because this is actually a nice haven for us GN's, but it is occasionally infected by negative posters. Life.
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However, keep in mind that robust debate does not equal abuse.
Name calling and such is simply childish but there is a line here: I well recall the UK Chancellor Dennis Healy's comment that being attacked [verbally in parliament] by Geoffrey Howe was "Like being savaged by a dead sheep."
And a similar political quote, of which I cannot remember the originator, at the time of someone's death was "He was a humble man... with much to be humble about."
Nothing at all wrong with robust debate, indeed there is a good deal right with it - if you do not feel strongly enough about something to feel a little emotion then you should probably not debate it.
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"I beseech you in the bowels of Christ think it possible you may be mistaken"
Oliver Cromwell, 3rd August 1650 - in a letter to the General Assembly of the Kirk of Scotland
Mike,
Yes you are correct, your statement was simple and unambiguous.
BUT what I said was "I think perhaps it should read......"
I didn't erroneously say "you said ....."
2022 the year of friendly chat.
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"life is too short to spend it with people who suck the happiness out of you"
I agree totally and not so long ago almost pulled out of this site.
Some members need to be pulled into line by admin occasionally and be given a little holiday.
From my observations over almost 30 years of extensive internet use and since well before there was a World Wide Web it is the "bickering" many, if not most, people follow forums such as this for; and I include a lot silent observers in that.
Phil Allison and Rob Speed, two of the most contrary people it's possible to meet (if people they were), use to have fan clubs on Usenet!
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"I beseech you in the bowels of Christ think it possible you may be mistaken"
Oliver Cromwell, 3rd August 1650 - in a letter to the General Assembly of the Kirk of Scotland
From being a member on a few forums I recon that there is nearly always a professional stirrer who has a skill to be able to provoke an argument.
From what I see there is one or two that offer no advice to the caravanner in any of their posts but have the purpose of dragging up controversial subjects or taking someones post and making an attack on the person based on something taken out of subject by cutting and pasting. I think they just enjoy an argument.
We certainly have a few on here at times.
I hope 2022 can be a kind year for everyone. We have enough to cope with due to our current pandemic.
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