Where I am they can't stop those not vaccinated however, those not can't use the facilities. Doesn't make sense but what does I spose. There is no way known to man kind that can be policed. Ooops, that should read 'person kind'.

I take precautions when using things around the park and sanitize all the time and don't mix much. I don't ignore anyone just don't get close.

So far so good.

I think that is the way of life now, take precautions and be careful. I have just booked in for the Booster.



Keep safe out there everyone.

Well, I recen tly helped a family, whom were camping near me, just before Xmas, offered him access to my power at home, he intermingled with me and my wife whom is immunocomprimised, and was told that in advance. After close contact was made, 2 days later, he informed me he wasn't vaxed, nor was his wife, I stated to him, you know my wife is immunocomprimised, and you interacted with her closely, why didn't you tell us, his excuse, is it is nobody's else's right to know. This is after we showed kindness, and helped him out as they are homeless. He has not been signing in or wearing masks, he doesn't believe in them, he also doesn't intend to vax his 5 yo son, and this guy and his wife, have had covid, in the early days.. What right have they got in putting us in danger, he was made unemployed due to not being vaxed, and doesn't intend to get vaxed, but think's it is grossly unfair that he can't get a job, because he needs to be vaxed to get one. I think it is unfair on his part putting us all in danger.

Not much thought yet again from governments when opening Australias population to a world wide pandemic.

Caravan parks may be classified as outdoor areas which is arguable but how about the sharing of camp kitchens and appliances and the sharing of bathroom and toilet amenities. How about the other common areas such as an office or a shop within the park.

We have dropped the ball by not enforcing vaccinations wherever one may want to go within Australia and by not keeping international borders closed until more positive treatments become available to us all..

Bicyclecamper emphasises the point of peoples RIGHT not to vax or to wear masks and abide by other rules but I am amazed that the other words beginning with
*R* are completely ignored by these Cretans.

What happened to RESPECT for others and RESPONSIBILITY for the harm that they may cause to others.

Selfish people who really do not deserve a spot here on earth.

While I would prefer all people to be vaccinated, their choice to get or not get vaccinated is not my major concern. Vaccination is going to reduce the illness in those that are vaccinated, and if some people can't see the benefit to themselves in that then fine. Sometimes you just can' help people.

I am more concerned with the decision by some to not wear masks. The mask is not to prevent yourself getting infected, it is more to prevent you infecting others. I would be much happier if the Government was more explicit and forceful on the wearing of masks. I would like to see them being required in more locations, such as outdoor events like sport, even when in your seat, other outdoor gatherings etc, and also whenever people are in areas like shopping malls, not just smaller shops. I see more benefit in pushing for this than vaccinations as we have covered 90%+ with those already. Increased mask usage may give us a bit more bang for our buck so to speak.

Kathy and I will just continue keeping ourselves out of harms way as best we can, do a few less outings than we may have previously, but try to live as normal a life as possible.

Stay safe, and we hope 2022 is a better year for you all.

Maybe I'm misinterpreted - I would like to know what is happening out there
regarding what attitude the van parks are taking to prospective campers.

Are the majority demanding no vax no camp, or are they allowing general
campers in or what?

Bit iffy about leaving for a stint away without knowing the likely scene.

Brodie Allen wrote:

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ps - I hate this "show me your papers" experience. Where are we at?

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 If you are fully vaccinated then it should not matter.

If crossing borders when travelling you will have to check current requirements of those adjoining states.

If you arent vaccinated then you have the choice of being RESPONSIBLE and show RESPECT to others and get vaccinated or alternatively display your RIGHT not to be vaccinated or not to *show papers* your choice. Entering a caravan park at this stage will be based on requirements and expectations of the owner of the park.

BTW it is hardly being asked to *show papers* as we might have observed in Europe during world conflict.

More to the point if you have ever been vaccinated while in school in Australia you may have been issued an immunisation card which many of us had and in more recent times you have to show a passport and proof of applicable immunisation vaccination  to travel to many overseas countries from Australian shores. This is not *showing your papers* as was coined during the war in Europe, and now unfortunately the same phrase is being used in total ignorance by anti vaxxers in Australia.

Of course the other alternative is to stay home and save us all the threat of you contracting Covid and then having to take a spot in a hospital ward or worse in an ICU ward.

Rob Driver wrote:

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Bicyclecamper emphasises the point of peoples RIGHT not to vax or to wear masks and abide by other rules but I am amazed that the other words beginning with
*R* are completely ignored by these Cretans.

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"I" did not emphasise, his right nor did "I" emphasise, any ones right to not be vacced at all, please read the comment in full, that I did write. I said, he believed it was his right to not to be vaxed, nor tell anybody about it.  I am against people thinking the have the right to keep their vaccination information to themselves, especially when the have been informed of the health of people around them or they are going to mingle freely with other people.

Bicyclecamper wrote:

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Rob Driver wrote:

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Bicyclecamper emphasises the point of peoples RIGHT not to vax or to wear masks and abide by other rules but I am amazed that the other words beginning with
*R* are completely ignored by these Cretans.

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"I" did not emphasise, his right nor did "I" emphasise, any ones right to not be vacced at all, please read the comment in full, that I did write. I said, he believed it was his right to not to be vaxed, nor tell anybody about it.  I am against people thinking the have the right to keep their vaccination information to themselves, especially when the have been informed of the health of people around them or they are going to mingle freely with other people.

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 So, why did you post that information, what was the purpose of disclosing the information in your post. It appears now that it was maybe to point out what a true hero you really are.

 

 Maybe I should have said * Bicyclecampers post emphasises the point of peoples RIGHT..bla bla bla etc*

 Mate, your signature says it all*eccentric nutter*

-- Edited by Rob Driver on Monday 3rd of January 2022 07:45:02 AM

Just saying ,
I have been double vaccinated and now have had my booster shot,
so I should be protected,
If someone is not vaccinated , then they will get sick not me
I don't find that a problem , it is un vaccinated choice to be sick or wors

I don't know anyone that has had covid , but from what I hear the ones that are vaccinated are only getting
a tickly throat like the start on a cold or no symptoms at all

Has anyone had covid and has been vaccinated ?
How sick did you get ?
What level were you vaccinated 1 , 2, booster ?

I am still very cautious and wear my mask ,
And don't we all miss the good old days
Let hope this Omicron is the tail end of this

keep safe people
Bob

-- Edited by bobsa on Monday 3rd of January 2022 08:55:55 AM

Rob Driver wrote:

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Bicyclecamper wrote:

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Rob Driver wrote:

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Bicyclecamper emphasises the point of peoples RIGHT not to vax or to wear masks and abide by other rules but I am amazed that the other words beginning with
*R* are completely ignored by these Cretans.

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"I" did not emphasise, his right nor did "I" emphasise, any ones right to not be vacced at all, please read the comment in full, that I did write. I said, he believed it was his right to not to be vaxed, nor tell anybody about it.  I am against people thinking the have the right to keep their vaccination information to themselves, especially when the have been informed of the health of people around them or they are going to mingle freely with other people.

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 So, why did you post that information, what was the purpose of disclosing the information in your post. It appears now that it was maybe to point out what a true hero you really are.

 

 Maybe I should have said * Bicyclecampers post emphasises the point of peoples RIGHT..bla bla bla etc*

 Mate, your signature says it all*eccentric nutter*

-- Edited by Rob Driver on Monday 3rd of January 2022 07:45:02 AM

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 I don't always agree with Byclecampers, BUT, on this ocassion he is completely correct

Can I suggest Mr Rob, I am so perfect, Driver to read his post again before calling HIM an  "eccentric nutter" regardless if it his signature or not

Ian