That will depend entirely on the particular BMS, and there are hundreds of different ones.
Any battery charger that delivers the appropriate voltage profiles (or is user configurable) is suitable for charging lithium batteries.
I suggest you consult the supplier.
Cheers,
Peter

Have had battery on lithium charger for 24hrs.Went through cycle and showed in storage mode.
Disconnected charger and checked voltage which showed 10.1 v.
My impression is battery is kaput.
Doddo.

Brand name is Power Lithium.
It was in the van when we purchased it it in Nov 2020
Have sent a message to previous owner when it was purchased as yet no reply. There is no puchase date on battery.
Have travelled some rough roads since purchase .
Doddo

Pop it on the scales. We should be able to tell you if it should go in the bin.

G'Day Doddo,

Have a chat to House of 12V, they should be able to help you out.

Regards,

Whenarewethere wrote:

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A Victron 100AH lithium battery is 15kg. So 110AH would be about 16.5kg.

Your battery is about 80% of the weight. So something is missing.

 

Before you bin it you may as well open it up & see if there is anything you can do & for the benefit of everyone so we don't get ripped off, post some internal photos in the teardown thread.

 

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t67455852/lithium-battery-teardown-examples/

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 I was going to say 15kg seems on the heavy side but if it has winston or similar then yeah that's probably about right, but the weight does not really reflect the quality, you can have a good quality battery that weighs not much more than 10 or 11 kg, my 105Ah cells from China only weigh just under 2kg each so under 8 kg for the 4 so add 3kg for a case wire and BMS and it's still only 11kg.

I was also going to suggest to cut the top off, but I would never recommend anyone doing so that might not be familiar with the safety aspect

My guess is it's made with 28/+ cells so either some spot welds have broken, dead cells or BMS, given it sitting at 10.1v thats classed as 100% discharged, but if the BMS is faulty then it could be any voltage upto 100% full, but either way if care was taken getting the top off, it could be easily fixed and then put into another case. I recently broke open an old laptop battery that wouldn't hold a charge, only to find the batteries in perfect condition once charged on my 4 cell charger, I assume the BMS was fffff broken.

Whenarewethere wrote:

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I believe that a lot of these batteries using 18650 cells are using C grade cells to be able to sell the battery at a price point.

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 It's not just 18650's they use any cylindrical cell they can get cheap enough to make up the voltage and Ah but some or many don't even come close to the specified capacity, all to often the BMS isn't up to the job either and the input and output is well below what you would expect, then you have the actual assembly done in a sweat shops in China where quality is not regulated, all this adds up to a battery that should not be sold here in Aust.

A quote from someone on diysolar "It seems that ebay and aliexpress is just a dumping ground for products that don't meet the intended buyer quality control standards" While I think this is true, I think that it's the people who buy from these sellers that are the ones that promote the sale of these down graded items, But also this is also a general overview of both companies (good eggs in a bad basket) I wonder how many people who buy products from anywhere test them once they receive them? or even know how to test them.

I buy from both of these online shops, and on many occasions have asked for refunds, I figure why should I pay a high price for something from an Aust online store if I can buy it much cheaper from the same place they do in China lol

Ho Doddo . There is a bloke in Mannum about 100km from Adelaide that specializes in lithium systems he would be able to help you . He was on the forum some one may remember his name and contact details.. or google Mannum battery systems

Thank you will give him a call going to spend a few days in Mannum

nomadz wrote:

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Gday Doddo,

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Suggest you phone before calling in as he is extremely busy.  Regards, Ian

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 Hmm Ian I never thought is was a good idea to put that information on a public forum for anyone. 

And indeed that person has been banned on this forum. So advertising for him is inappropriate. 

"Status

Banned"

Jaahn  

It is inappropriate to post someone's contact details regardless of the situation.

Send a PM.

Got in touch with Terry and he was extremly helpfull.
He tried a few different things over the w/end to bring battery back to life but it was kaput.
My thanks to him if i am in the area with battery problems will seek him out again.
Doddo.

-- Edited by Doddo on Friday 22nd of October 2021 08:57:02 PM

Hi Doddo 

Thanks for giving us a reply, and posting those pics, even if it was not good for you  As suspected that battery is composed of lots of small round cells assembled in series/parallel to give the capacity and voltage to look like what I would call a proper battery. I would not be happy to find I had that, after I shelled out good money.  Too many connections and individual parts to be really reliable IMHO. 

Lithium batteries are an emerging technology and the consumers are paying for the development and R&D as they go. 

Jaahn