Just as many are finally coming to terms with Windows 10, here comes Windows 11, W10 suits me fine, does everything I need, cant see myself upgrading to 11 until the teething problems have been sorted, seems like a lot of the new features are simply change for the sake of change.
"Windows 11 Launch Live Updates: Microsoft is soon going to launch Windows 11 for personal computer users. The company will launch it at an event on June 24. Windows 10 was launched in 2015 i.e. five years ago and since then it is running. Now the company is all set to launch the new Windows 11."
My immediate thought is, what will break if and when I decide to upgrade, or am forced to upgrade? Will my old machine(s) be able to satisfy the new hardware requirements? How long will Win 10 continue to be supported?
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Loved Windows 7 pro. Forced to update to 10 as some programs now not supported by 7. Absolutely hate 10. Microsoft has become like a virus in recent years. A blight on the computer industry.
My immediate thought is, what will break if and when I decide to upgrade, or am forced to upgrade? Will my old machine(s) be able to satisfy the new hardware requirements? How long will Win 10 continue to be supported?
Think I read somewhere 10 will be supported until 2025.
As I said I'll continue with 10 for the foreseeable future,I don't have any issues with it, it still runs Office 2007 without problem, Word and excel as well as Outlook which is a great email facility, no need to upgrade to Outlook 365 an expensive subscription service.
My current machine has less then 15gb left, not enough for Edge, which, I wont allow to update to, so I supposed they will demand to load W11, which, I well have to fight over them with on their forced update.. As I have previously said, this is the last computer I am going to have, unless I win one with 6000 TB of memory.
My current machine has less then 15gb left, not enough for Edge, which, I wont allow to update to, so I supposed they will demand to load W11, which, I well have to fight over them with on their forced update.. As I have previously said, this is the last computer I am going to have, unless I win one with 6000 TB of memory.
I'm currently away from home using a 5 ear old lap top, any amount of disc space left, over 600 gb, my home desk top machine, 6 years old is in even better shape, over a TB free.
I regularly get rid of/delete programs/apps that are of no use, and carry out regular disc clean up's, rubbish can accumulate quickly and consume large amounts of space.
As I have said my operating system is Windows 10, Firefox is my browser, use Google as a search engine.
I'm not into gaming.
What activities do you pursue that needs so much disc space, or is it simply that your PC has a small hard drive? regardless you should be able to free up a significant amount of space.
It all depends on how you are using your computer. I was a semi pro photographer. I heavily edited images. Still do. Many image files were over 500meg. My 9 year old laptop running Win 8.1 works fine. My old desktop runs Win 7. I only use it for printing. But all computers need to be 'managed' well or it's all downhill from the day you buy them. Waaaayyy back in the 80's I studied for a certificate, diploma and degree all specialising in computers. The most important lesson zi learned was to manage your computer.
Win 7, 8, 10 or 11 will work well if you know their limits and your own limits.
Me? I'm staying with Win 8.1.
I took several years to be convinced to change, resisted until both Aust Govt and South Aust Govt "gurus" told me that it was my fault that I could not easily access Motor Reg, Service payments, My Gov etc and so on because I was not using the latest and greatest.
So I changed to Win 10 from Win 7, and still had problems because my beautiful Toshiba Qosmio was not compatible with Win 10 - the establishment answer was - upgrade you hardware?
Why did I have the Qosmio? Because I made Dvd's of our trips, the graphics card was top quality.
You see. Govt agencies etc are held captive to Win x & M.S. products etc and employees / IT /management etc all get their upgrades free under work place lic and agreements. They cannot, will not, and are to arrogant to see that us retirees have to actually keep forking out of our own funds just to keep up with what they already get for free from what we have paid to their department in fees, taxes and charges.
Am I annoyed - too right, the cult of progress just wants us to keep on paying up for as already stated, "Change for Change sake"
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I slowly realise as I get older that I am definitely NOT the fastest rat in the race.
Also the older I get the more I realise I do not know.
It all depends on how you are using your computer. I was a semi pro photographer. I heavily edited images. Still do. Many image files were over 500meg. My 9 year old laptop running Win 8.1 works fine. My old desktop runs Win 7. I only use it for printing. But all computers need to be 'managed' well or it's all downhill from the day you buy them. Waaaayyy back in the 80's I studied for a certificate, diploma and degree all specialising in computers. The most important lesson zi learned was to manage your computer. Win 7, 8, 10 or 11 will work well if you know their limits and your own limits. Me? I'm staying with Win 8.1.
Your right, house keeping is crucial.
Like you I have large numbers of .jpg and raw images on my drives (literally thousands) mainly on the desk top machine, along with Photoshop for editing, regardless storage has never been an issue, I don't use the cloud, don't trust the system, prefer to keep my own files and back up.
PS We started our computer journey around 1982 on a Commodore 64 using floppy discs, makes you appreciate just how far we've come in a relatively short space of time.
It makes me smile - reading most of these comments just says - today, I woke up with something new with which I can be offended. Yesterday it was Caravan Park costs, day before it was local Councils on free camping and now it's Windows 11. Can't wait to read what tomorrow is..........
It makes me smile - reading most of these comments just says - today, I woke up with something new with which I can be offended. Yesterday it was Caravan Park costs, day before it was local Councils on free camping and now it's Windows 11. Can't wait to read what tomorrow is..........
Strange post, to this point most of the conversation has been pretty positive.
It doesn't affect me what Microsoft does. I'll plod on regardless. What really gets up my nose is the strangle hold they have on the education departments. Our daughter and son inlaw are both teachers. Their 3 kids go to a private school. So what? They can afford it. Or so they think. But each year those kids are 'encouraged' to upgrade their devices. Yes phones, tablets and laptops. Now they don't give them away. It's a cost that parents have to carry.
take it one step further. Software. The 5 of them 'have to have' Excel etc etc etc to be compatible. More costs. I have sat down with them and shown them Open Office. Opened up their files, modified them and saved them. All in a free bit of software. But dare they try to save money? No way because the system says the MUST have this or that.
Now us old farts can manage. But the daughter teaches at a public school. Many of the students are disadvantaged. 'Poor' parents. Single parents. etc etc etc. The school has some loan devices but they are limited. So is our education system fit to teach our kids? Or is all about keeping up with technology and bugger the kids?
Rant over. I really feel for those who can't afford the basics to educate their kids.
Santa I started with a computer that loaded software from a cassette tape. 32k of Ram and 32k of Rom. 1980. But I could play Hangman with it !!
It doesn't affect me what Microsoft does. I'll plod on regardless. What really gets up my nose is the strangle hold they have on the education departments. Our daughter and son inlaw are both teachers. Their 3 kids go to a private school. So what? They can afford it. Or so they think. But each year those kids are 'encouraged' to upgrade their devices. Yes phones, tablets and laptops. Now they don't give them away. It's a cost that parents have to carry.
take it one step further. Software. The 5 of them 'have to have' Excel etc etc etc to be compatible. More costs. I have sat down with them and shown them Open Office. Opened up their files, modified them and saved them. All in a free bit of software. But dare they try to save money? No way because the system says the MUST have this or that.
Now us old farts can manage. But the daughter teaches at a public school. Many of the students are disadvantaged. 'Poor' parents. Single parents. etc etc etc. The school has some loan devices but they are limited. So is our education system fit to teach our kids? Or is all about keeping up with technology and bugger the kids?
Rant over. I really feel for those who can't afford the basics to educate their kids.
Santa I started with a computer that loaded software from a cassette tape. 32k of Ram and 32k of Rom. 1980. But I could play Hangman with it !!
I agree, as far as kids are concerned it's gotta be the latest and greatest, I think a lot of it has to do with peer pressure, if they don't have the latest technology thet cop a lot of flak from their so called mates.
Ha! had forgotten about the software on cassettes, if I remember rightly Realistic (Tandy) was one of them, the good old days.
I was studying at what is now Deakin university. They had a mainframe that we used. Punch cards! When we had spare time we again played Hangman. Can you imagine using a universities mainframe to play Hangman?
I don't think the school system is based on peer pressure from the other kids. Maybe a bit. No it comes from the top down. As I mentioned our son inlaw is a teacher at an expensive private school. Half his time is spent rewriting the curriculum. He is in charge of f$#@^ with what the kids learn. (Invasion day etc). He is adamant that the new technology is the key. MUST have Apple and anything other than Apple is crap. School gets a deal with Apple. So go figure. Daughter at the public school gets their instructions from the state education system.
Back to Win 10-11. My question is WHY? Why can't we keep the HQ Holden. It served us well. Why can't we just put new wheels on it and a set of extractors? Win 8.1 was as good as it gets. (For its time). Why can't they just give us patches that upgrade it only if we want to? Can't we just speed up the hardware and leave the software alone? Give us options. Not some conspiracy that ensures that Apple and Microsoft have a continual source of income by simply making what we have obsolete for no real good reason. It's a conspiracy.
It not just Apple or Micrsoft. When the federal gov released their covid app it only worked on newer devices. Only after some uproar from users. Mainly old folks. That they changed the app to run on older devices. Mostly Android. The companies are full of kids who think they know what's best for us. They don't grasp the concept of folks, us older folks, aren't hell bent on the latest and greatest.
I've used Linux for decades. I've never paid for any software because most of the Linux stuff is free and /or open source. Ubuntu, which is the Linux distribution that I use, uses one tenth of the disk space as Windoze. Similarly, the installed software is usually much smaller than those written for Micro$oft operating system.
One day, I had to reload the whole operating systems onto a dual boot computer that we had. It took, at the most, one hour to load Ubuntu and three days to load Windoze and other software. Seems a no brainer to me.
As Dorian said - it will depend on how long W10 is supported. Nominally they stay around for about 10 years.
After that, if you're satisfied with what you have & keep your anti-virus, malware detectors current then you could keep going as is.
It's like what some want to do with mobile phones - I'm happy with 3G but now I have to have 4G, 5G, etc!! It's a Conn to get us to buy more, more expensive equipment!!
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A lot of older computers will need to have bios updates to be able to run Windows 11. Even then, the updated ones may still not be able to run Windows 11.
We run 2 desktop computers at home, 3 year old one I spent a few hours finding the settings to change in the bios, 1 year old, bios was set to run Windows 11.
If you want it for FREE, get it when it is offered.
bgt - I am surprised an expensive private school doesn't give their students access to Microsoft Office. Our grandkids get access through their school for no charge. Microsoft also sell heavily discounted software for studenst