also called "stand offs" and the plastic ones are great for putting battery operated electric fences up
Brian

Shotgun.

Stop worrying,enjoy your trip.

peter67 wrote:

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As i'm about to head off on a trip around WA i was worried a little about security at night in particular and considered a few options. I have a hyundai van with a built in cargo steel mesh divider which i would like to keep in case of an accident, having this in prevents me from driving away at night without exiting the vehicle first so...although i don't wish to overly harm someone trying to break into my van i do need them to step back a bit and think i will settle for mace in a can to be used as a last resort, some people have also suggested a trigger can hornet spray from bunnings.

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Warren-Pat_01 wrote:

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The most popular cars being pinched are VE Commodores

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At least they'll have an accurate reading of their speed - I wrote the software for it :)

travelyounger wrote:

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landy wrote:

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peter67 wrote:

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As i'm about to head off on a trip around WA i was worried a little about security at night in particular and considered a few options. I have a hyundai van with a built in cargo steel mesh divider which i would like to keep in case of an accident, having this in prevents me from driving away at night without exiting the vehicle first so...although i don't wish to overly harm someone trying to break into my van i do need them to step back a bit and think i will settle for mace in a can to be used as a last resort, some people have also suggested a trigger can hornet spray from bunnings.

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If you find some mace better not tell any one. Its illegal in Australia I believe. Hence the wasp spray.

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We have never had a problem while travelling but most incidents occur involving alcohol which some people leave there eskies and bottles of spirits out on display.Then come sleep time is when they are robbed mainly after the grog and anything of value.

Cheers 

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 At a festival not long ago. Neighbours Scotch bottle was stollen, so next  night neighbours filled an empty scotch bottle with pee and put in same place. Sure enough, on return home, the bottle was gone. After that, nothing further was taken.

Back on the subject matter.

My view is 

Let kids be kids.

We all had a fun time enjoying our childhood.

Well anyway, I certainly did.

Plus I have witnessed 9 of our grandkids having a ball in their early years.

Jay&Dee

Aussie1 wrote:

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travelyounger wrote:

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landy wrote:

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peter67 wrote:

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As i'm about to head off on a trip around WA i was worried a little about security at night in particular and considered a few options. I have a hyundai van with a built in cargo steel mesh divider which i would like to keep in case of an accident, having this in prevents me from driving away at night without exiting the vehicle first so...although i don't wish to overly harm someone trying to break into my van i do need them to step back a bit and think i will settle for mace in a can to be used as a last resort, some people have also suggested a trigger can hornet spray from bunnings.

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If you find some mace better not tell any one. Its illegal in Australia I believe. Hence the wasp spray.

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We have never had a problem while travelling but most incidents occur involving alcohol which some people leave there eskies and bottles of spirits out on display.Then come sleep time is when they are robbed mainly after the grog and anything of value.

Cheers 

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 Not quite correct re illegal in Australia peter67. Western Australia is different to the rest of Australia in regards to the legalities of carrying pepper spray. I understand it is considered a controlled weapon in WA unlike all other states. Perhaps for clarification you may like to check with WA authorities. ps. I carry pepper spray in WA. Hope you enjoy your travels here in WA .I purchased them online from a company called Guardian Defense here in Perth. Take a look at their web site.

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dorian wrote:

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mark and kerry wrote:

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Play Frank Sinatra loud some shopping center did that and the kids stayed away in droves

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I was sitting in a doctor's surgery and had to listen to Dean Martin crooning through two nearby speakers for 45 minutes. I now know the meaning of "killing me softly with his song".

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 Tell us a little about your music preferences dorian.

dorian wrote:

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Santa wrote:

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dorian wrote:

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mark and kerry wrote:

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Play Frank Sinatra loud some shopping center did that and the kids stayed away in droves

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I was sitting in a doctor's surgery and had to listen to Dean Martin crooning through two nearby speakers for 45 minutes. I now know the meaning of "killing me softly with his song".

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 Tell us a little about your music preferences dorian.

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The only music that helps to prevent the outside world from robbing me of the little sanity that I have left is chillout music. I'm currently in a race to the bottom -- will I lose my sanity before it comes time to bury my parents? That's my situation in a nutshell. I hope you're having a good life.

 

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Sounds as though your going through a hard time dorian, I hope your getting some help? life is pretty tough in this day and age, particularly in big cities, people are so involved in their own affairs they have little or no time for others.

Its easy for people to give advice, when your the person affected there seems to be so many problems and so few solutions.

I sincerely hope you can find a way through your personal troubles.

Am I having a good life? I've had a very good life, sadly, like most of us in advancing years, health problems are making things a little difficult, just a fact of life I guess, old age, Charles de Gaulle once said, is a shipwreck, I'm inclined to agree.

Bogan parents breeding bogan kids, no discipline with the strap, kids raised by minders so that mum can
go follow a career. Then ultimately, slack park managers.

Signs of the times in western "cultures".

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Warren-Pat_01 wrote:

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Murray, Mike & bqt,
Could we use your solutions to control the out of control kids in Townsville who insist on breaking into houses (with tools borrowed from Bunnings) & flogging cars? No, the govt says locking them up, any form of punishment is too harsh.

Beware everyone because while most cities in Qld have the problem, Townsville is by far the worst and its people are getting angry, demanding action!

Keep your keys & valuables in a secure location & be careful when driving on the roads, you're not assured that you won't meet a car full of kids driving on the wrong side of the road at speed.
The most popular cars being pinched are VE Commodores, Toyota Corollas, Hiluxes, Ford Rangers - all automatics.

 

 I have a nephew and daughter in Townsville nephew said its the same 40-50 kids doing it the cops know them but are hamstrung because of their age . When up there a 3 weeks ago we heard on the radio an elder that said if they (the  elders) were allowed to fix the problem their way they would but apparently the do-Gooders wont allow them to , he said to put your keys under you mattress at night as they are sending little kids in through the bathrooms window or even the doggy door to find the keys , and yes they can only drive automatic cars . Taking to our daughter last night she said that Friday night they stole and torched a $150,000 land cruiser . Time for some serious lesson learning for these kids me thinks . 

Hi Woody & Sue,

Well we just give Townsville a total miss. Theres a lot more to see ,do out the back.

Old and Grey

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