Smoking nearly ruined our outback trip

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Smoking nearly ruined our outback trip

Plain Truth · Guru

DMaxer wrote:
In NSW the areas administered by State Forests are free entry Mike. National Parks charge and therein lies the difference in potential liability for occupiers liability. As for ferals and bogans, you are absolutely right. Even if prosecuted very hard to get the penalty paid even if taken incrementally out of their dole.

Not all NSW Nat.Parks charge .So there goes that argument.

DMaxer · Guru

That's true. I was referring to the ones where I have camped. That is the reason they gave me.

DMaxer · Guru

Apparently the official line is that the scent of dogs cause the natural fauna stress and cause them to flee Mike. As national parks are there to protect flora and fauna it makes sense.

Mike Harding · Guru

DMaxer wrote:
Apparently the official line is that the scent of dogs cause the natural fauna stress and cause them to flee Mike. As national parks are there to protect flora and fauna it makes sense.

It doesn't make any sense at all - it presupposes wild animals are comfortable with the scent and sound of humans which, we all know, they are not.

The real reason dogs are not permitted in NPs is because the greenies who run the NP departments actually don't want *anyone* in NPs, if they had their way humans would be banned too.

There is no reason dogs on-lead should not be permitted into gazetted camp grounds in NPs - indeed service dogs are allowed and feral dogs seem unaware of the legislation.

NP rangers have extensive powers (interesting act to read DM) and can evict anyone from a NP immediately and without reason.

DMaxer · Guru

I can only speak for what happens in NSW Mike but there are some NP that allow dogs in if they are on a lead and properly controlled and supervised. You only have to walk along some of the beaches that are surrounded by a NP up in the north of NSW to see some boofhead allowing their out of control dog to chase other dogs, chase birds, rip into the undergrowth where birds and animals are nesting, to see why they are not allowed.

Like most things in life, the responsible people suffer because of the actions of a few morons.

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Mike Harding · Guru

DMaxer wrote:
Like most things in life, the responsible people suffer because of the actions of a few morons.

But it doesn't *have* to be that way and it should not be so.

Do we *really* want a society in which 98% are seriously over-controlled in order that 2%, who will never comply anyway, are legislated for - it makes no sense Dmaxer and is plain wrong.

DMaxer · Guru

You are probably asking the wrong person Mike. When I go into a National Park I don't feel the need to start up a generator, chain saw trees, light fires or watch my dog destroy wildlife so the regulations have no effect on me. With your love of the bush I reckon you would act responsibly too and therefore I can see that all the regulations would be annoying to you.

After reading some of the posts on this topic I imagine there would be a few amongst us that would find a place a bit out of the way in the National Park, start up the generator, light a few fires, have a few smokes and let Fido go and say hello to the wildlife. I am sure they would be responsible enough to put up a sign first of all so as not to distress any one that may stumble upon them.

Dougwe · Chief one feather

As long as they don't drive their overweight rigs in and then make a noise taking off the WDH, BigD.

Mike Harding · Guru

DMaxer wrote:
I am sure they would be responsible enough to put up a sign first of all so as not to distress any one that may stumble upon them.

Probably why I almost always camp in State Forests Dmaxer :)

DMaxer · Guru

Yes Doug, I agree. I like State Forests too Mike. There are some really good ones in the north of NSW that are easily accessible and with a few facilities. You just need to keep an eye out during bushfire season.

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Depends if the dog smokes ?