Why do campfire addicts leave their ash,rocks etc for the next camper to clean up especially when it sits in the middle of the only flat space available.I suspect my complaint will not change their attitude.

Suppose a nice hotdog is a small price to pay

orid wrote:

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Suppose a nice hotdog is a small price to pay

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Thank God I don't have a cat... otherwise you'd probably be banned from the forum....

Well Ive thought of explaining the wonderfull benefits of campfires mentioned here to my wife who has emphysema, Trouble is sha has a brain,and Ido tend to bruise easily these days

" pay a visit to the South Coast of NSW a take a look at what devastation the lack of controled fire has done to thousands of people.Their homes and livelihoods gone" Not sure what irresponsible camp-fires have to do with bushfire, but I recall one time we were in the US, a small camfire lit by fools started one of the largest fires ever - and of course the same thing has happened here.

We have freedom of choice in Oz, if you don't like fires or generators stay at home.

Aus-Kiwi wrote:

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Fires I can understand but WHY burn polystyrene or similar ? The smoke is terrible!! On the other hand .. We had a certain type complain about bacon being cooked on our BBQ lake near Lithgow . I tell you . I bet he wished he never complained !! Thing is complaining is only stirring some up ! Just move on !!!

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Bacon, like campfires is one of the joys of life.

I agree with burning poly, why would you do it?

I find in drums or similar burn ok . Some just seem to smoke !! Wood is wet etc or just fired up ? One big one ? But really theres no need for 50 fire places . Im Thinking up the Bathurst mountain during the V8 racing . Weve been going for 40 years . When just litt or new wood added they smoke big time !! More so if down wind . Such is life !! More things to worry about in what others do or dont do !

I like a fire both for its use to cook food and also for its ambience.  SWMBO hates the smell of smoke on my clothes.

I try to cook with the smallest fire possible & to create coals or flame with a minimum of smoke. I love siting around the campfire late at night with a cuppa (or perhaps a port or two) chatting with a mate.  Never any smoke from our fires.  Well, almost none.

I prefer those little devices where a small amount of kindling is placed in a firebox at the bottom of the 'kettle'.  It's amazing how little wood is needed to boil the billy using these.   Way back whenever our Field Staff would boil up the billy with a handful of kindling in a kero tin.  The contest was to see who could boil up the quickest & with the smallest amount of kindling.  The old hands would quietly gather up a small bundle of the best burning wood to do the job.

Edit ... to insert link -

https://www.campingkettle.com

2nd Edit ... To insert an Au link

https://www.kellykettle.com.au/epages/kellykettle.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/kellykettle/Categories/KELLY_KETTLES

 

My SIL is different in that he seems to enjoy the biggest fire that he can create.  On one trip he used up the full bag of firewood that I purchased, on just one night.  I had intended it to last the full week.

 

If my family had health problems relating to smoke then I would choose camp sites away from open fires.  Perhaps Caravan Parks.

 

BTW, I like the idea of a few drops of water in a metho stove to eliminate soot on the utensil.  Must try that.   (There's always a bit of gold in amongst the dross, even in a thread like this)

Edit 3 ... Link to a very simple Metho Spirit burner (similar to the ones made of tin that I remember from my childhood)

https://www.snowys.com.au/spirit-burner

-- Edited by Cupie on Monday 17th of August 2020 01:51:13 PM

-- Edited by Cupie on Monday 17th of August 2020 02:16:54 PM

If we are set up for an hour, a day or several days and along comes Yogi bear and sets up camp and lights a fire according so some here I'm supposed to move? And as for humans using fires for 1000's of year may I point out that those same folks never knew the health hazards. All I ask is for a wee bit of consideration for fellow campers.

I would love to live nextdoor to some of you fire lovers, and I dont appreciate being told to stay in a caravan park,
Maybe I should tell you guys to go live in Africa with iana and those lovely huts with horror stories lit in the middle

Imagine this,,> it is a beautiful 30 degree day , Tony next door has all his windows open to get fresh air through, his wife has just put out the washing on the line to try and get rid of the campfire smoke from their recent trip, wonderful, peacefull ,Tony is sipping a beer on his patio .

Now the nice guy next door ,(Orid}has some visitors ,so decides to light a fire in the garden , so he and friends can soak up the ambience and get the old bonding on the move ,not to mention the,the meditation value to our Health ,

I'm sure Tony and family especially wife would be very happy for Orid

Now would that make Orid an ignorant inconsiderate twit. I think so.

Now Orid gos on a trip pulls up at a lovely spot with a few other campers enjoying a beautiful 30 degree day ,peaceful, fresh air , everyone has their van widows open otherwise it gets a bit warm inside ,
come 5pm a lovely fella pulls up or worse a group, every piece of wood he can find is piled up , big fire he loves em just sits the meditating ,about ten meters away mind you because he is too hot ,moving his chair now and again as he coughs in the smoke , he couldnt care less about anyone else he has his ambience . Ok finished his meditatation , for get the ambience its getting dark ,lets get the radio out and start up the gennie . spots more wood
Now is this guy an inconsiderate twit ? Not much difference

Really some of the excuses here , are pathetic , requirement of Human society ,wood is a natural product, they burn em in the middle of huts in Africa. If he has any sense that is ?


I smile at the guy just across from me as he shuts all his windows ,sits down and lights his Pipe (natural tobacco} he smiles and looks across at the guy with the fire and probably thinks to himself .I maybe an antisocial smoker but that guy with the fire has 12x the chance of getting cancer than I have .

I'm dissapointed you people who think its your god given right to make other peoples lives miserable and unhealthy are obviously inconsiderate .

The irony of recent events recently at Mallacoota -

When we visited there last year we were taken by the large number of campers, and the place was nearly full, who had various versions of camp stoves from super modified converted gas bottle 'Pig Stoves' to great big washing machine or 44 gal  drums  all set up with big piles of firewood stacked up for ready use.  Some just had a ring of stones around those fantastic vertical heavy iron rods with hooks, grills & hotplates that slid up & down or out of the way when not in use.  A great variety of options.   At night the whole place smelled, pleasantly to me, of camp fires & cooking.  Buggar, I didn't have a stove but took lots of pictures of those that appealed to me.   A guy came round during the day selling firewood & did a roaring trade.

Shortly after we got home a few months later much of the community suffered greatly from the terrible bush fires.  Such a tragedy.

 

 

edit ... But keep it up Orid .. keep winding them up.

-- Edited by Cupie on Monday 17th of August 2020 02:38:32 PM

Lots of talk about rights, little mention of responsibilities and consideration.
Cheers,
Peter

Regardless of what our opinions are its only a matter of time before the various authorities will make the decision for us. So maybe this thread will become all a waste of forum space.

I'll repeat again. All I want is for campers to consider others be it with smoke, noise or whatever.