Joda wrote:

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Straight road too.

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 I have come across three of these roll overs in the last ten years or so.  Just a few minutes that is after they happened. The owners still in the tug or just getting out. Luckily no injuries  to occupants, but all very, very,  shocked.   

They were all on good   highways.  The last one we came across was 20 minutes South of Derby W.A.  this time last year.   Slight  bend in the Hwy. and you could see by the tyre marks on the road  where the van had started to fishtail and then Roll along with the Tug. 

Be pretty devastating to the wallet as well I suppose 

All three were large (for me that is)  tandem axle rigs, that looked very new, along with a new looking big 4x4's. 

Inexperience, bad luck, poor loading, lack of concentration. Who knows what the cause was   In all cases I felt very sorry for the owners predicament.  

   

-- Edited by elliemike on Friday 10th of July 2020 11:29:44 AM

bentaxlebabe wrote:

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For those who dont participate in FB.

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 Thanks, not on FB, Twitter or any of that type of stuff!

With just a car I'm a fast driver.

With a caravan on the back I'm a slow driver.

I suspect excess speed and poor weight distribution were significant causes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jk9H5AB4lM

It is unusual generally but the police in attendance suggested the load in the van was not balanced correctly.

Regards

Angie

Well The wine was packed good. Amazing what gets saved in a roll over.( See in Photo.)

Old

How would plod know how the van was loaded from a pile of debris.

From the look of that mess, who would no what caused it that yet.
I suggest the polioce were just passing a geneneral comment, and yes, incorrectly loaded van could cause this to happen, along with other possible scenarios
Ian

One water tank between the two axles - good.
Second water tank half way to the rear - not good.
Could that have contributed to the roll over?

Murray

Long Weekend wrote:

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One water tank between the two axles - good.

Second water tank half way to the rear - not good.

Could that have contributed to the roll over?


Murray

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Think you will find that the rear tank is a grey water tank.

Looks to be a second water tank in front of axles.

A "nose down" or "nose up" attitude does not necessarily mean that the van is balanced incorrectly. It is the distribution of mass that is critical and that cannot always be seen.

Looking hard and there is one tank in front of the axle. Second tank, between axles.. Third tank with multiple pipes apears to be the grey water tank.. Then there is a tow bar (REESE HITCH) to connect a frame on, too carry the trike bike mounted after the tool box.. How do you get away with that ?

I dissagre with you KJB, both point to poor setups nose down is either incorrect ball height on tug or too much ball weight, likewise nose high again could be incorrect ball height or insufficient ball weight. The object is to have you van level with the correct ball weight, then the coupling height can be measured, to enable the ball to be positioned matching the coupling height. I would suggest more than 60% of vans being towed today have never visited a weighbridge (ours is weighed twice a year). When you talk to people at happy hours, there are many who have had their vans and tug setup by dealers when taking delivery of their van, and have no idea of weights or setups. And the you get those who nit pickers who argue about an having an adjustable hitch because of its weight, as for a WDH we won't even go down that road.

KJB wrote:

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Nothing illegal there to "get away with..."

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 Hi Kerry...seems to me that the rear bumper has been added after manufacture,evidenced by the different sized and different coloured RHS extensions out to that bumper.Attached to that extended bumper there appears to be a toolbox of some description,and possibly (note "possibly") two bicycles,as suggested by Elliemike.More pictures would help,but to me  it appears that the distance from the mid-point of the axle group to the rear of the vehicle and its load is greater than the distance from the mid-point of the axle group to the front of the vehicle's load carrying area?As well as being dangerous,this is illegal,and can lead to an insurance claim being rejected.Many people seem not to understand the effects of yaw (Google it!) but Jonathan's picture,with the sockets and the steel rulers,should help? Anybody who is even remotely concerned about van safety would do well to spend some time researching and understanding yaw,as,by doing so could,they may save themselves from a lot of financial,and possibly physical,pain.Cheers.