I bought a Jeep - not

Ger08 · Senior Member

I bought a Jeep - not

Stretch60 · Senior Member

Similar thing happened to my brother some years back with a 4 cylinder Cherokee diesel. Stealership changed timing belt but not tensioner and guide. Yep tensioner failed destroyed motor, instant pile of junk, went from 32k car to 5k wreckers strip down in few short years.

boab · Senior Member

thats interesting Stretch my jeep had a matori motor 2.8 the same engine that the colorado use now they are designed to bend the exhaust rockers in the case of a broken timing belt in fact on the odd occasion it happens the head is not even removed they are in fact a pretty good motor the collies use what is called a duramax which is a motori built in thailand having owned a jeep for several years i get a bit peeved by the knockers that have never had one i now have a ranger because i wanted a tray back but there was nothing wrong with my jeep maybe i was just the lucky one

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Yes it becomes a peer pressure thing . Often by people who have no idea . Hear the same with Ford, GM, VW too !! Family has reconditioning engine shop . They stock rockers for near every engine !! So many not servicing timing belts or chains.

Eaglemax · Guru

Stretch60 wrote:
Similar thing happened to my brother some years back with a 4 cylinder Cherokee diesel. Stealership changed timing belt but not tensioner and guide. Yep tensioner failed destroyed motor, instant pile of junk, went from 32k car to 5k wreckers strip down in few short years.

Stretch,

Yes it isnt acceptable but VW isnt a clean skin. Not only is their servicing costs for their DSG gearboxes pricey, their reputation over the global emissions scandal was a disgusting act towards customers.

Quote- One German newspaper has called it the "most expensive act of stupidity in the history of the car industry".

s in the face to customers who paid a premium for what they thought was a greener car

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-34325005

Glass houses eh.

Tony

-- Edited by Eaglemax on Sunday 22nd of September 2019 04:51:41 AM

Mike Harding · Guru

Fair go to Jeep - the car is six years old and this failure is pure bad luck. I would not expect Jeep to pick up the entire bill for repairs however I think they should have offered to cover, say, 50%.

I would also ask how sensible is it for a young family with two children and a mortgage to be spending $50,000 on a car when, four years after buying it, they have no savings or spare cash of note. Far too many people put themselves in debt simply in order to buy shiny toys.

bgt · Guru

We have a 7 year old KK Cherokee that is a real keeper. Those who knock Jeep are simply repeating Chinese whispers. The BIG issue I have with Fiat Jeep is the dealer charges. We did a water pump. Dealer wanted over $1000.00 (estimate) to replace it and a 3 week wait. An independent replaced it in 2 hours for $350.00!!!!!!

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

If your silly enough to believe shrapnel from a failed fuel pump will destroy an engine ? Your so gullable to believe anything ! If anything when a fuel pump fails . The engine STOPS due to no fuel . Plus theres fuel filter before and AFTER fuel pump. They possibly got a bad batch of fuel ?? Nothing makes sense . The costs of repaire are outrages too !

The Belmont Bear · Guru

I bought the 3ltr v6 diesel GC and use it to pull our 2.8t van - in 18 months I have had no problems, it seems to be very stable when towing and easily handles that load. I believe that the cost of the scheduled servicing through the dealership is way too high even after they moved it out from 6 to 12 months. I cant really comment on Jeeps response to warranty claims because as yet I havent needed to take it back to them. Like most posters I try and give people honest feedback based on personal ownership its totally up to the reader to decide whether they wish to take it into account when making their own decision. Alternatively there are those on the forum who continually like to push their own biased point of view which is usually based on heresay or accompanied by an attack on the opinion of others.

Ger08 just like anyone else you are free to buy whatever vehicle turns you on but I tend to agree with most of the responses that you have received so far.

Cheers
BB

Mariner30 · Senior Member

Ya know what the name Jeep really means, don't ya? Just Empty Every Pocket lol, Ok, ok... l'll go now

Eaglemax · Guru

Ger08 wrote:
I nearly did buy a Jeep and boy am I thankful I didnt
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/manufacturing/stay-right-away-family-claims-50000-jeep-grand-cherokee-turned-to-dust/news-story/3628effa5aa56404bef536e9e115d994

So Ger08, what tug and van do you own as your profile doesnt mention it

Tony

The Belmont Bear · Guru

Mariner30 wrote:
Ya know what the name Jeep really means, don't ya? Just Empty Every Pocket lol, Ok, ok... l'll go now

Gee thats funny Mariner probably almost as funny as when I heard it 10 years ago - you dont happen to live somewhere in Oz that time forgot do you ? biggrin

Cheers

BB

Olive Oil · Senior Member

There are lemons in every brand of vehicle. Just hope that you're not the one that buys the lemon.

Eaglemax · Guru

Olive Oil wrote:
There are lemons in every brand of vehicle. Just hope that you're not the one that buys the lemon.

Exactly Olive Oil

-- Edited by Eaglemax on Sunday 22nd of September 2019 05:10:53 PM

Mariner30 · Senior Member

BB, You only heard it 10 yrs ago?? Golly, l must be really old coz l would've heard it 20 yrs ago lol

The Belmont Bear · Guru

Maybe you,re right Mariner it could have been more like 20 years ago but the older I get the more the time seems to become a blurr. That saying comes from the same era as , fix or repair daily, or just holden together. By the way I read your profile and saw that I actually visited your town n February, we were doing a lap of Tassie with a group of friends and dropped in to the waterfront for a break - nice part of the world.

Cheers
BB

Mariner30 · Senior Member

G'day mate,
It is a lovely spot here AND is even better with a boat or 4,
LoL

We may have even spoken to you at the wharf, we are retired and often have a coffee and a chat with visitors

SouthernComfort · Guru

The two most reliable, comfortable and capable 4x4's I've owned have been my (current) Grand Cherokee CRD, and a previous Landrover Disco TD5. My worst - a hopeless (petrol) Territory which spent more time in the shop emptying my wallet than on the road. My most boring, although reasonably reliable - Pajero. Would never comment on anything I haven't actually owned.

The Belmont Bear · Guru

That's possible Mariner I remember that we grabbed a coffee down near the ferry wharf and had a chat with a couple of locals about a day trip out to Maria Island, unfortunately we were on a pretty tight schedule and couldn't hang around the place long enough to do it. Definately on the bucket list for things to do the next time that we are in that part of the world. That was actually our 4th trip over, we have friends who live in Burnie so every now we will drop in and spend some time with them. Although it took us a year or so to coordinate we organised a get together in Burnie of our "old gang" who had grown up together then over the next 40 years had scatttered far and wide across the country - some of them had never been to Tassie before so we took the opportunity do a lap..

Cheers
BB

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

40k to fix an engine ?? Some is after a go fund me to pay off his Jeep ? I call that post FAKE ! The numbers just dont add up . The reason for failure is all wrong . No way would contaminated fuel destroy a whole engine !!! Someone is gouging big time !! Often its the dealers giving vehicles a bad name ! Strange ? Check most unreliable cars ? The Range Rover is right up there !!

dorian · Guru

I'm no mechanic, but ISTM that the logical thing to do would be to remove the injectors and flush them under pressure. (Can they be reverse flushed?)

I would think that draining the engine oil and filtering out any metal debris would be the other thing to do. Then you would know how much metal made it past the filters, if any.

Does that sound reasonable?

BTW, I would think that this job could provide an enterprising mechanic with a free PR boost.

yobarr · Guru

Aus-Kiwi wrote:
40k to fix an engine ?? Some is after a go fund me to pay off his Jeep ? I call that post FAKE ! The numbers just dont add up . The reason for failure is all wrong . No way would contaminated fuel destroy a whole engine !!! Someone is gouging big time !! Often its the dealers giving vehicles a bad name ! Strange ? Check most unreliable cars ? The Range Rover is right up there !!

Graeme,you are of course,absolutely right.All very sad.....not.Why on earth is a young couple,with a mortgage and two small children,running around posing in a $50,000 vehicle? There are many brand new family cars available for a lot less than $50,000,but perhaps these cars don't have the "look at me" factor! Grow up,put on your Big Boy pants,and stop blaming others for your own mistake.Cheers

Nevd · Senior Member

You can buy a WK 3 litre diesel engine from various suppliers 2nd hand for around $3,000 - $4,000 - just google. Sounds like sensationalist journalism to me.

Whenarewethere · Guru

I have a relative who bought a Jeep and he said he wish he didn't.

Ger08 · Senior Member

I believe the Jeep GC is the most recalled vehicle in Australian history. I nearly did buy one except for the following, a client bought one and the forward radar module failed two days after he drove it off the dealership, a three month wait for a replacement part, same vehicle a failed sensor, a 9 week wait for replacement, another GC, failed front suspension, was supposed to be a three week wait ended up a 14 week wait for parts. Same vehicle, the AC failed in the middle of a WA summer 4 visits to get it diagnosed total of 10 weeks to get it repaired. So yes Im glad I got a Mitsubishi.

The Belmont Bear · Guru

I once heard that someone knew a guy who had a cousin whose Jeep broke down on the day that they bought it . Let me say again that for the last 18 months I have owned a Jeep GC so far its been a great car to drive, it tows a 2.8t load easily and has had zero recalls or problems.

As I said Ger08 I previously owned A Pajero Sport and I ended up replacing it last year with only 14k on the clock. When I retired I made the mistake of listening to the sales pitch about the Sports capabilities and I ended up spending 9 months working in the middle east earning enough money to replace it with something more suited to the task. Im glad that you are happy with the Sport and that it does the job for you but in my situation I found that it fell a little short.

Cheers

BB

Wizardofoz · Guru

I find it very tough to be criticising the young couple for buying a $50,000 vehicle, what business is it of you or I to decide what their situation is or their choice of anything should be.

In any case and in truth, who hasnt spent more than they originally intended on anything that they purchased in life...at the end of the day, it is nobodys business but the person/s concerned.

I do agree that the cost quoted to fix the problem ($47,500) is outrageous and seems to be unbelievable and totally suspect.

yobarr · Guru

Wizardofoz wrote:
I find it very tough to be criticising the young couple for buying a $50,000 vehicle, what business is it of you or I to decide what their situation is or their choice of anything should be.
In any case and in truth, who hasnt spent more than they originally intended on anything that they purchased in life...at the end of the day, it is nobodys business but the person/s concerned.
I do agree that the cost quoted to fix the problem ($47,500) is outrageous and seems to be unbelievable and totally suspect.

Ray,I have no problem with these people wasting their money as they see fit,but I do object to them then crying "Poor me" when it all goes wrong,and blaming everybody but themselves for their intentional poor choice.Their motives are,at the very least,suspect and I agree with Graemes assertion that they are seeking "Go Fund Me".Perhaps "Go get s...." would be more appropriate? And in response to your question "What business is it of you or I",perhaps it is the business of nobody but the subject couple.That being the case,why have they gone bleating to the world,crying "Poor me?".Suck it up and get a life.Cheers

SouthernComfort · Guru

It's sensationalist journalism pure and simple, the story has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. The $47k thing in particular is unbridled fantasy.

If you haven't owned a GC, you can't presume to appraise them with any degree of authority, and certainly not based on heresay from isolated cases. I could pass on the odd horror story or two about other brands that have come to my ears in the past including LC, Ranger, Territory, Patrol, Pajero, Holden, but (except for the Territory) the 'tales' are at least second hand or worse, undoubtedly embellished over time, and not from my own experience.

As for OP's observation that the GC has had the most recalls in Oz, where did you get your 'fact'??

Unlike certain other makes that prefer to hide and wait for a failure before being dragged kicking and screaming to the recall bench, many of Jeep's recalls have been proactive (i.e. preventative) and usually quite minor. As you'll find with most real owners, the GC suits me fine.

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

I think 9/10s the issues is having the parts here in Australia to service them . Another brand . We had to wait weeks for injector pipe on Fuso work truck . In the end we quietly got a pipe made locally. Then swapped over after 6 weeks when it arrived . These are the inconvenience things that frustrate owners . The early Territory had bad batch of ball joints when replaced the issue didnt resurface .