Weighed in today...

aussie_paul · Guru

Weighed in today...

RustyD · Guru

aussie_paul wrote:
I had the opportunity to weigh rig fully loaded today as we headed off. It appears I still have too much ball weight, so at least now I know what I need to do.
Aussie Paul.

-- Edited by aussie_paul on Wednesday 23rd of August 2017 07:09:13 PM

Wot? Chop one off

dave48 · Senior Member

Well at least you found out. Better than THEY find out on a roadside stop. Dave

Bill B · Guru

If van weighs 2700 kgs max allowed ball weight is 180 kgs so you have a major problem.

Even if van weight is reduced to 2500 kgs getting the ball weight back to 250 kgs will still be no easy job.

TheHeaths · Guru

It will be very difficult to achieve the correct ball weight unfortunately, as AP's van has an empty ball weight of 142 kg.

Good luck Paul, and I hope you can sort out the issue.

vince56 · Senior Member

Bill B wrote:
If van weighs 2700 kgs max allowed ball weight is 180 kgs so you have a major problem.

Even if van weight is reduced to 2500 kgs getting the ball weight back to 250 kgs will still be no easy job.

Can you clarify please Bill, not sure what you mean by max ball of 180kg??

vince56 · Senior Member

Sorry Bill, forget that, I just saw the spec sheet attached.

aussie_paul · Guru

Thanks people. I do have some thinking and work to do. I wonder of shifting the axles would be worth thinking about. I can see now why the utes work as all the stuff, including fuels etc I have in the front boot and genset etc could be in the rear of the tug.

Aussie Paul. smile

xman · Member

Mate, assuming I have understood your notes correctly -

If you weighed it hitched, I think you have blown the vans GTM and ATM.

Actual ATM = GTM (axle load) + Tow Ball WT

3020 = 2700 + 320

Your max ATM is 2585

If unhitched, you have blown the vehicles GVM as well, as you need to add the tow ball weight to the vehicle mass.

Bill B · Guru

xman wrote:

Mate, assuming I have understood your notes correctly -
If you weighed it hitched, I think you have blown the vans GTM and ATM.
Actual ATM = GTM (axle load) + Tow Ball WT
3020 = 2700 + 320
Your max ATM is 2585
If unhitched, you have blown the vehicles GVM as well, as you need to add the tow ball weight to the vehicle mass.

ATM is 2727 kgs and GTM is 2585 kgs on compliance plate pictured.

Yes need to know if van was unhooked from tug when weighed ?

-- Edited by Bill B on Friday 25th of August 2017 03:18:46 PM

xman · Member

yep.., my bad, ATM is 2727 so we're approaching 300 kg's adrift

aussie_paul · Guru

Van & tug were coupled for the tug and van weights. Uncoupled for the ball weight.

The axle group loading is 2900kg

Aussie Paul. smile

TheHeaths · Guru

In that case AP, unfortunately, all of your weights are out. So, according to Mitsubishi your ball weight is too heavy for the vehicle, and according to your compliance plate, your van is nearly 300kg overloaded, and has over 100kg too much on the wheels.

Your maximum ATM is 2727kg, but actual weight is 3020 kg (2700 when hitched, plus the ball weight), your maximum GTM is 2585kg, but the actual weight on the wheels is 2700kg, and the max ball is 180 but is actually 320 kg.

I know you are probably well aware of that, so good luck getting your weights within the legal loadings allowed.

Sorry to do a Sybil Fawlty and "state the bleeding obvious", but if they do ever pull you over loaded as you were for this trip, you would have a problem, and probably not the ball weight!