Gas storage

Nelly · Guru

Gas storage

Dougwe · Chief one feather

By saying a "Canopy" Nelly, I take it you mean as in like a Ute Canopy? If so I carry a 4kg bottle with bung in it in mine and put a silver windscreen cover over it and a couple of other things to keep filtered sun off. Seems OK to me.

Fringe Dweller · Senior Member

My 2 x 9kg are Legally stowed front boot of van.

I would have a small flat strap securing them , or a net over them , so as to look as they are not "floating around".

Possum3 · Guru

To transport LPG containers they now must be secured in upright position, in a cool place & not stored with flammable liquids (petrol & diesel), the bottles must also be fitted with an approved bung (available at most camping outlets). If you can met these conditions under your canopy, you will be compliant - if you can't, then don't do it!

Mike Harding · Guru

I have bounced two gas bottles (4kg and 2kg) over more serious 4WD tracks than I can recall for almost more years than I can recall too - so have all my friends in the 4WD community.

I store the bottles upright (although I'm not sure why - if gas under pressure can't get out I doubt liquid will) and ensure they are jammed in by other stuff so they can't roll around.

PS. They're both out of date too - but I, illegally, fill them myself so that doesn't matter :)

Cupie · Guru

When I transport my bottles, complete with bungs, to the exchange/refill places I carry them in old milk crates. They fit snugly & don't roll or bounce around.

Don't know what is legal or not (I'm sure that our band of experts will soon enlighten us) but I personally would be comfortable carrying well secured bottles in the back of a ute or whatever, away from sources of ignition etc.

Edit ... Oops ... Looks like Possum has answered the 'legal' question

-- Edited by Cupie on Tuesday 2nd of May 2017 07:25:10 PM

-- Edited by Cupie on Tuesday 2nd of May 2017 07:25:41 PM

rockylizard · Guru

Possum3 wrote:
To transport LPG containers they now must be secured in upright position, in a cool place & not stored with flammable liquids (petrol & diesel), the bottles must also be fitted with an approved bung (available at most camping outlets). If you can met these conditions under your canopy, you will be compliant - if you can't, then don't do it!

Gday...

wot he sed -

http://www.elgas.com.au/swapngo/bbq-safety-tips

Gas Bottle Transport.JPG

Cheers - John

Possum3 · Guru

Mike the reason for upright storage is because - if in the event the valve is broken off and the cylinder was horizontal - they behave like a North Korean ICBM and BLAM!

I witnessed a large acetylene bottle dropped on it's neck at BOC mid seventies - It shot off like a rocket and punched through an earth filled loading dock like a dart into butter.

Mike Harding · Guru

Thanks for that explanation P3, that sounds quite sensible.

Back in the 1970s, so I heard, water police on the River Mersey in Liverpool UK started finding BOC oxygen welding cylinders in the mud when the tide went out. The number of cylinders slowly increased over time until police finally figured out that teenagers crawled under the fence into the BOC plant (on the opposite bank) after hours and had great sport by knocking the valves off full oxygen bottles with a sledge hammer and watching them head, at high speed, across the river - just like a torpedo! That's the kind of thing I would have done :)

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

Mike Harding wrote:
PS. They're both out of date too - but I, illegally, fill them myself so that doesn't matter :)

Exactly how do you do that LEGALLY?

Cheers,

Peter

Mike Harding · Guru

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Mike Harding wrote:
PS. They're both out of date too - but I, illegally, fill them myself so that doesn't matter :)
Exactly how do you do that LEGALLY?

I do it illegally legally :)

I think you read what you wanted rather than what I wrote.

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

And that does not matter?

Cheers,
Peter

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

There must be ventilation in its compartment too . At the bottom . LPG is heavier than atmo .

Mike Harding · Guru

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
And that does not matter?

Not to me but you are welcome to righteously lecture me if you like :)

Hylife · Guru

Gas rules are state based. There is no National rule system but many states adopt the Australian Standards with some localised adjustments.

The rules relate to fixed installations.

There are recommendations, most of them common sense, such as not in a passenger compartment or accommodation area, but currently no state laws exist restricting where you can temporarily carry gas bottles in vehicles, provided they are simply being transported from place to place and are not connected to supply gas to something or in a permanent holder. EG, a spare in the back or taking to a refill station.

Possum3 · Guru

Transporting gas cylinders comes under "Transport of Dangerous Goods" not gas installations.