Which BBQ

Kiwimagic · Veteran Member

Which BBQ

Dougwe · Chief one feather

My vote is for a low lid Weber Baby Q. Does all your BBQ things pluse anything you can do in a normal oven.

I love my red baby Q.

woofta and precious · Senior Member

I have tried to get my Baby Q into a tunnel boot of that exact size, but it will not quite fit, being too high.
I think it is the low lid model, that is the one without the temp gauge?
But who cares, just make room for it somewhere, because they are the best!!
Brian

Hewy54 · Senior Member

Have a look at the Ziggy.
Like a weber only better.
Lids folds under so much less height.

Pam_Chris · Veteran Member

One of our friends had a similar problem. Solved it by taking the lid off and putting it in the bases upside down.

graeme c · Senior Member

hi

I have a high lid webber baby q with temp guage and love it, lid can be easily removed with 2 pins on the hinge

meetoo · Guru

Hewy54 wrote:
Have a look at the Ziggy.
Like a weber only better.
Lids folds under so much less height.

The fold under lid is a good benefit, however when talking about how the food cooks and tastes, I believe from experience, the Baby Q wins hands down. Hard to find a dissatisfied Weber customer.

Cheers, John.

Desert Dweller · Guru

Companion single or double burner WOK STOVE, Baby who?

The Belmont Bear · Guru

Hi kiwimagic, a little outside the square but I was going to put my Baby Q in the front boot of the van but instead I bought the Webber carry bag for it and I travel with it in the back of the wagon. There are no smells, no rattles and it is a lot easier to access and carry around. I have been using Weber BBQs for years and I wouldn't go past them, I just bought the pizza stone for it so I will give that a whirl when we head out again next week.

I was a little worried about fitting a roll out for the Webber as the heat comes out from under the lid at each end which I thought could be a little too close to the side of the van - would probably have been OK but I opted to buy a small Coleman fold up table instead. I also had an extra gas bayonet fitted so I can easily move the Q to either end of the van depending on conditions such as the wind direction. I bought a chain and padlock so I can chain the BBQ to the van which won't stop a determined thief but maybe the opportunist looking for something easy to grab, most of the time after it's cooled down I just put it back in it's carry bag and keep it in the car.

Cheers
BB

-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Tuesday 14th of March 2017 07:04:10 AM

Hewy54 · Senior Member

meetoo wrote:
Hewy54 wrote:
Have a look at the Ziggy.
Like a weber only better.
Lids folds under so much less height.
The fold under lid is a good benefit, however when talking about how the food cooks and tastes, I believe from experience, the Baby Q wins hands down. Hard to find a dissatisfied Weber customer.
Cheers, John.

The best part about the Baby Q is their advertising campaign. Any enclosed BBQ oven will do the same job as long as there is an even heat distribution from the burners.

Weber were one of the first to introduce the concept of an enclosed BBQ with their old round heat bead type ones. Since then they have developed them to the Q type range, and many people refer to the small enclosed BBQ style as a weber (much the same as many English people do the Hoovering).

Nowdays there are many other brands who do an enclosed BBQ. Many people are satisfied with their weber, but have they tried the other brands?

In comparing the Baby Q and the Ziggy, they are very similar and both use the concept of an enclosed oven.

There are two essential differences.

1. The Ziggy has a fold under lid to give a lower travelling height.

2. The Ziggy has a higher heat output to give the option of lid down cooking (like the weber), or lid up cooking to make it a normal BBQ.

I have never found a dissatisfied Ziggy customer.

Cupie · Guru

Hewy54 wrote:
meetoo wrote:
Hewy54 wrote:
Have a look at the Ziggy.
Like a weber only better.
Lids folds under so much less height.
The fold under lid is a good benefit, however when talking about how the food cooks and tastes, I believe from experience, the Baby Q wins hands down. Hard to find a dissatisfied Weber customer.
Cheers, John.
The best part about the Baby Q is their advertising campaign. Any enclosed BBQ oven will do the same job as long as there is an even heat distribution from the burners.
Weber were one of the first to introduce the concept of an enclosed BBQ with their old round heat bead type ones. Since then they have developed them to the Q type range, and many people refer to the small enclosed BBQ style as a weber (much the same as many English people do the Hoovering).
Nowdays there are many other brands who do an enclosed BBQ. Many people are satisfied with their weber, but have they tried the other brands?
In comparing the Baby Q and the Ziggy, they are very similar and both use the concept of an enclosed oven.
There are two essential differences.
1. The Ziggy has a fold under lid to give a lower travelling height.
2. The Ziggy has a higher heat output to give the option of lid down cooking (like the weber), or lid up cooking to make it a normal BBQ.
I have never found a dissatisfied Ziggy customer.

I don't use either & a quick search indicates similar pricing. My Daughter loves her Baby Q but it's a PITA to carry with the stand (I know that there are others). THe lid up cooking is a good aspect of ziggy & its red too.

I'll stick to my single & double butane cookers on a alu fold up slat table with windbreaks.

Given that I am a CP dweller I carry a 240v pizza oven & if I need a lid for the BBQ plate I use the lid off the elec fry pan.

Stl · Senior Member

I'm with desert dweller. With only 2 of us, I do all the cooking on a single burner on a 3 kg bottle, lasts for ages. No mess, pan washed up, finished. Use the stove in van for extra if needed. KISS.

tried the baby Q, to hard and to long to clean, in the shed only use when ..... I can't remember the last time I used it.

Santa · Guru

I'm in the Weber camp, We've had a Baby Q for a couple of years, great little BBQ, easy to use and clean, by far the best BBQ I have owned.

As a bonus after sales service from Weber Aust is Excellent.

If they have one flaw it's susceptibility to wind/drafts, you need to use them in a sheltered area otherwise keeping the temp stable is almost impossible, once you work out a system all is good.

One other point, Weber is made in the US, Ziggy in China, I try not to buy Chinese if there is an alternative, I imagine some will have similar feelings about American products now, another choice to make.

-- Edited by Santa on Tuesday 14th of March 2017 11:34:37 AM

Santa · Guru

Stl wrote:
I'm with desert dweller. With only 2 of us, I do all the cooking on a single burner on a 3 kg bottle, lasts for ages. No mess, pan washed up, finished.
tried the baby Q, to hard and to long to clean, in the shed only use when ..... I can't remember the last time I used it.

Guess if your happy with cooking in a frying pan your simply not a BBQ type person.

Cleaning! the Baby Q stays remarkably clean, when it needs a tidy up, simply spray with degreaser let it stand for a few minutes and hose down, dead simple. wink

The Belmont Bear · Guru

Hi Hewey54, wouldn't cooking with the lid raised defeat the purpose i.e. the use of the trapped convection heat aids in cooking therefore you can lower your burner setting and also reduce the time which means not only keeping more flavours in but using a lot less gas. I don't know anything about the advertising campaign for the BabyQ but in my experience most people I talk to who have bought them have either had some experience with one or someone else has recommended it to them. I've never seen or had experience with the Ziggy or any of the other brands that people have mentioned on here but if you're happy with what you've got and it's giving a good result then by all means recommend it to others.

The biggest compliment for Weber is that whenever someone wants to recommend another brand of BBQ they will always use the Weber as the yardstick to make a comparison.

Cheers
BB

blaze · Guru

Santa wrote:
Stl wrote:
I'm with desert dweller. With only 2 of us, I do all the cooking on a single burner on a 3 kg bottle, lasts for ages. No mess, pan washed up, finished.
tried the baby Q, to hard and to long to clean, in the shed only use when ..... I can't remember the last time I used it.

Guess if your happy with cooking in a frying pan your simply not a BBQ type person.
Cleaning! the Baby Q stays remarkably clean, when it needs a tidy up, simply spray with degreaser let it stand for a few minutes and hose down, dead simple.

I would have thought that people that use an enclosed cooking device are the people that don't know how to barbeque. A pan or camp oven or even a hubcap were the real barbies with a nice taste and smell of smoke etc. through the succulent meat

cheers

blaze

Santa · Guru

blaze wrote:
Santa wrote:
Stl wrote:
I'm with desert dweller. With only 2 of us, I do all the cooking on a single burner on a 3 kg bottle, lasts for ages. No mess, pan washed up, finished.
tried the baby Q, to hard and to long to clean, in the shed only use when ..... I can't remember the last time I used it.

Guess if your happy with cooking in a frying pan your simply not a BBQ type person.
Cleaning! the Baby Q stays remarkably clean, when it needs a tidy up, simply spray with degreaser let it stand for a few minutes and hose down, dead simple.
I would have thought that people that use an enclosed cooking device are the people that don't know how to barbeque. A pan or camp oven or even a hubcap were the real barbies with a nice taste and smell of smoke etc. through the succulent meat
cheers
blaze

Then you would have thought wrong.

As far as stewing in a hub cap or whatever, I guess if that suits your taste go for it, I've been known to use a shovel in an emergency, certainly wouldn't do it if there was a better option.

Cupie · Guru

Santa wrote:
blaze wrote:
Santa wrote:
Stl wrote:
I'm with desert dweller. With only 2 of us, I do all the cooking on a single burner on a 3 kg bottle, lasts for ages. No mess, pan washed up, finished.
tried the baby Q, to hard and to long to clean, in the shed only use when ..... I can't remember the last time I used it.

Guess if your happy with cooking in a frying pan your simply not a BBQ type person.
Cleaning! the Baby Q stays remarkably clean, when it needs a tidy up, simply spray with degreaser let it stand for a few minutes and hose down, dead simple.
I would have thought that people that use an enclosed cooking device are the people that don't know how to barbeque. A pan or camp oven or even a hubcap were the real barbies with a nice taste and smell of smoke etc. through the succulent meat
cheers
blaze
Then you would have thought wrong.
As far as stewing in a hub cap or whatever, I guess if that suits your taste go for it, I've been known to use a shovel in an emergency, certainly wouldn't do it if there was a better option.

Yep .. The shovel trick.

In the 60's we were fishing on Fraser Is. & got caught by the tide. Had to wait for it to drop before getting back to camp & food.

Fortunately we had our shovel & beer of course .. along with our morning's catch of Taylor & piles of drift wood.

Being an oily fish Tailor cook up reasonably well without extra oil. Seasoned with sea water while cooking & just pick the flesh off the skin while still on the shovel (a la plate). Then scrape off any that is stuck ready for the next.

Had to be close to the best fish I've had. Washed down by copious quantities of XXXX.

Them were the days & no Baby Qs!

moamajohn · Guru

I also have had a Ziggy for 4 yrs and very happy. However my mate went to a marine shop and got a ubewt BBQ that fits his boot that normally hangs off a boat ! Cheers

The Belmont Bear · Guru

Obviously blaze you are one of those people who doesn't know a great deal about barbecuing or you wouldn't have made such an uniformed statement. The English word barbecue originates from the Spanish barbacoa, which was a method of cooking in the Caribbean that was first described by Columbus in 1492. Nowadays the term barbecue can be used to describe a whole range of different styles of cooking, cooking devices or even an event. (wikipedia) ..........I suspect that they didn't have a lot of hubcaps in the Caribbean in those days.

A little off topic but in my opinion if you want to experience a good BBQ try a South African braai where the men folk stand around for hours socialising (sound familiar) while slowly grilling the meat, poultry or seafood over charcoal or wood which was prepared before starting to exactly the right temperature. For a different experience visit a Brazilian restaurant and try a Churrasco maybe 10 different courses with everything grilled slowly over flames on long skewers then brought and sliced directly onto your plate with a large knife. I was lucky enough to have lived in Mozambique and South Africa for a period of time and on many occasions experienced both of these styles of BBQ in fact I became reasonably good at making a braii. I tell you in this country we are only just beginning to learn about the different methods of barbecuing, the era of stewing thinly cut pieces of meat on a plate until they taste like leather or broiling sausages that are drowning in their own fat is probably passing us by (well some of us by anyway).

If you want to get technical the traditional Aussie BBQ would be something like a goanna or a turtle cooked over an open fire using a stick as a skewer biggrin biggrin biggrin

Cheers

BB

-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Tuesday 14th of March 2017 03:42:18 PM

montie · Guru

Hard to go past the good old Ziggy!
The best allrounder and you can cook lid up!

Montie

Santa · Guru

montie wrote:
Hard to go past the good old Ziggy!
The best allrounder and you can cook lid up!

Montie

The Z&B can be used as an open BBQ, however it was designed to used closed, as the Z&B instructions tell us, seems a lot of people cant grasp the concept. confuse

Cooking with the Hood Closed

Using the roasting hood traps heat, moisture and flavour that is normally lost on an

open top barbeque.

meetoo · Guru

Stl wrote:
I'm with desert dweller. With only 2 of us, I do all the cooking on a single burner on a 3 kg bottle, lasts for ages. No mess, pan washed up, finished. Use the stove in van for extra if needed. KISS.
tried the baby Q, to hard and to long to clean, in the shed only use when ..... I can't remember the last time I used it.

The Baby Q's for the most part are self cleaning. Possibly one of the easiest BBQ's to clean.

Cheers, John.

Santa · Guru

meetoo wrote:

The Baby Q's for the most part are self cleaning. Possibly one of the easiest BBQ's to clean.
Cheers, John.

No argument from me on this point.

meetoo · Guru

BBQ refers to slow cooked meats, and if you really want to try BBQ at its best, eat something cooked on a pellet grill - slow cooked and wood fired.

www.greenmountaingrills.com/

Cheers, John.

meetoo · Guru

montie wrote:
Hard to go past the good old Ziggy!
The best allrounder and you can cook lid up!

Montie

Do you sell them in your vans?

Ziggy are at best a BBQ's Galore brand cheap knock off of the Weber Q range. They cannot have the heat turned low like the Q's making them cook a lesser roast, and also their Cheaper cast iron grill bars do not retain the heat near like what the Weber Q's do. Smoke circulation is not as intense as the Q's, leading to less flavorsome food. Weber'Q's are the worlds biggest selling BBQ. Our tens of thousands of meals cooked backs up my opinion.

Cheers, John.

Bryan · Guru

I use a high lid Sizzler from Marine and Caravan BBQs.

moamajohn · Guru

Jeeze BB ! Hows about 1 or 2 lines like everybody else on you BBQ choice.Lets keep to the topic , for a Guru you should set an example .!

Kantiki · Senior Member

Love my Weber Q. After changing the dinette to recliners, the largest leaf of the table, and the leg ,fit into a jockey wheel clamp on the drawbar. Long hose to a bayonet under the van and its all good. Doesn't fit in the tunnel boot so it goes in the carry bag in the ute.

The Belmont Bear · Guru

Sorry moama I forgot that I was supposed to be a role model for others so in future I will try and keep it shorter and stay on topic ? You always have an option you know - if you think someone is waffling on and its annoying you just stop reading their post.