Just a little curious to know what sort of mileage you all get from your 4x4s when you are towing your van? The heaviest I tow is my boat but with my camper on board ( it's quite large) I get 17klms per 100klms! I would have thought that was reasonable for a Ftruck.
Don't really care about fuel economy that much, just drive & fill ér up when needed. We roughly get 12ltrs/100kms towing a 17ft van with our Nissan Navara.
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I get about 22 to 23 litres per 100 Klms with our Cruiser 100 series V8 petrol pulling about 2800 kg's. A bit high but just love the vehicle. And for all my fellow generator lovers, I get about 14 hours running the Honda on economy .
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My old Troopy cruiser was a fantastic rig but used heaps of diesel, 17ltrs/100kms unloaded, 22-25ltrs/100kms with van (2000kg). Sad to sell it but the new Isuzu Dmax is great and at the minute is getting 8.50ltrs/100kms unloaded. About to find out how it goes with the van.
My definition of 'Tuning' is to do such things as checking timing and exhaust gas, various sensors or whatever those mysterious things are that they do in modern auto workshops.
All I have ever done to the engine is replace plugs, leads and fuel filter whenever scheduled in the service manual. No points to adjust in the EFI. Not even had the tappets adjusted .. they don't rattle too much.
I always change the oil & filter on time though .. Penrite HPR30.
Oh yes when I see injector cleaner on special I get a couple of bottles of that and use it on the next long trip. Used maybe 4 or 5 bottles over the years.
My old Troopy cruiser was a fantastic rig but used heaps of diesel, 17ltrs/100kms unloaded, 22-25ltrs/100kms with van (2000kg). Sad to sell it but the new Isuzu Dmax is great and at the minute is getting 8.50ltrs/100kms unloaded. About to find out how it goes with the van.
Depending on your van, our Silverline @ 3 tonne knocks the D-Max out to 14L/100km
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For us it depends on the road. Between Newcastle and Noosa up the coast the Jeep uses 13 litres per hundred towing the Sterling (close to 3 tonnes.) Over flat country we do better.
For me it depends on wind resistance.
I drive an old 80 series so the words 80 series and economy do not go together.
Normal driving around town is about 13 l/100 km.
With the Kimberly Kamper at 1.8 t I got about 10 l/100 km.
The Vista Crossover at 1.7 t gives about the same.
With the ski boat on the back at 1.8 t I get 16 l/100 km.
If I bump up the speed from 95 to 105 the figures go out by 20%.
A head wind has the same effect.
I have a pyro guage and find that if I can drive by Exhaust Gas Temperatures, I can vary my speed and gear to get the best economy.
In the end though, fuel economy is not a big factor. If I do a big trip (15000km) and am able save 2 or 3 l/100km, I may save up to 450 l. This equates to about $600. Spread over 3 months it works out to $50 per week. When I am away on holidays, there are more important factors than saving a few $$$$.
I have 6.5 ton 8m motorhome with GM 6.5 turbo diesel . At times it seems to go forever fuel wise . Yes against wind . I find either slowing down to say ? 80 kph or stopping overnight ? I don't have to get to camping ground etc., The stay overnight can save me big time !! Reliability is far more important !! I would use the same amount of fuel as Cruiser and van of similar size ., diesels don't require a tune ? Mainly maintence . Modern EFI engines are much the same ! Infect there's nothing adjustable to tune !! Unless you have PC and software to edit ? Just check sensors or check engine light on dash . Filters etc is servicing ..
I agree that reliability is the most important thing when we choose our vehicle! I thank you all for your responses to my question. I guess the saying..."If your going to play, you have to pay!" is a very correct one. I'm happy to pay.
2010 D-Max. Yeppoon to Melb. av 9.5ish KMPL for trip.
Chip, 3in Stainless exh, and Snorkell.
same route back with EMPTY 535 full height Tandem van around 1.5\1.6 ton.
got 8 ish KMPL per. Not much difference. Very surprised.
Measured at pumps. fuel in By KM's run.
minus 2km per 100. (Speedo offset with these tyres by GPS.)
At mainly road speeds. But on Leichardt that isn't much more that 82\85
on a lot of it.
or it shakes the guts out of your leaf sprung ute. Coils ain't much better\er.
Actually is exactly same KMPL as prev '02 Patrol, cruising..
Both chipped.exh, and snorkel.
Don't let anybody tell you they don't help.
He's talking out of his rump.
Look at the BIG businesses making and selling such,
All over the world..
They wouldn't be big businesses if they didn't work would they?.
76 Series LandCruiser wagon(4.5L V8 turbo) pulling a 19' 2.9T Humpback off-road van (higher than the average van for clearance). Consumes between 16 and 20 L/100km at 90kph depending upon terrain and wind. Long-range tank means we can skip the expensive fuel stops.
345,000 on the clock and still going strong, and like you same on travel Km/hr
Max tow capacity is 2.5T seems you might be 100kg over maybe?
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Vince
Vince ...
According to my manual - 'models after 1992', including my 1995 Y60 GQ TB42EFI with manual transmission, 'have a braked towing rating of 2,800 kg All other models are rated at 2,500 kg' ...
Had me worried for a bit. But I'll do a bit of searching to confirm.
Edit 2 ... after a bit of investigation.... no a lot
- I can't find any confirmation of my Gregories Workshop manual suppliment for the 1995 4.2EFI's upgraded tow capacity to 2800kg.
So even if the Patrol has a tow capacity of 2500kg then I am OK. Though the ball weight might be an issue. But after 200,000km towing I'm good with it.
ps.. The Patrol GVM is 2800kg
-- Edited by Cupie on Friday 20th of January 2017 10:43:25 PM
-- Edited by Cupie on Saturday 21st of January 2017 03:06:12 PM
Late 2012 Dmax dualcab manual towing 21 ft van does about 14 ltr per 100km on average at 90 to 105 kmph or so in forth gear.
Macka did the better exhaust make much difference on its own? Then how much difference does the chip make....assuming you put them on after a period of time as a standard vehicle.
You have MY model or later. They different, tuning wise.
I installed 2 chips to find better one same cost same dealer (Aust)
Current a Pommie one. that set at lower rating. Don't use much throttle and it runs on fresh air.
Driving round town was in 7's.
7 months later. Exhaust and snorkel.
Breathes easier when pulling. and I often read in the late 6's driving local in town on Scanguage. Chip definitely helps off the line and on hills. Economy. As said late 6 to mid 7's cruising . 8 plus with van. Bit I AM a proven very light foot on throttle.
Missus, a town driver (Melb) does near 100km's less a tank than me when driving Patrol and 6.5mtr van.
If you have later model I'd forgo the chip, and (if towing) go for the Torque Converter Lock up. Either way I'd have an Auto Transm cooler too Snorkel gives cleaner, possible cooler air. Chip is another gear mid range and less lag. Exh gives better breathing and "slightly" more power through better gas flushing? Converter Lockup does such and less slippage in box.
But a lighter foot is best economy of all. As long as you don't become one of those accident causing 80km drivers on Main, Single lane roads.
There are (nearly) always, parallel roads to that one. where you CAN crawl along without causing frustrations and accidents.
If you(anybody) are one of them. peruse your maps and don't cause other peoples children possible grief.
Get on the back roads. You'll see more too.
This debate has been going on as long as I have been vanning. and b4.
They still do it. and people still get frustrated with the .......s
Addendum.
I bought EGR plates but they still in dash.
Instead.
I fitted a bypass line to top of rocker cover. down to a catch can
on chassis rail, with drain plug and filter to air.
The rocker cover end of hose to airbox I just blanked with a plug.
Hence. NO oil fumes back to EGR or airbox. Cleaner air\fuel mix and cooler (hopefully cleaner), manifold.
I also installed F.W. front Hubs too
-- Edited by macka17 on Saturday 21st of January 2017 07:01:56 PM
Thank you for your reply, mine is a manual model. I have FW Hubs fitted as well. I will consider the snorkel and exhaust upgrade. Don't get to do back roads much yet as I/we still work.
Turnbull and Co not helping much re the plan to be able do back roads soon either(retirement) but that's a whole other issue.
345,000 on the clock and still going strong, and like you same on travel Km/hr
Max tow capacity is 2.5T seems you might be 100kg over maybe?
Cheers
Vince
Vince ...
According to my manual - 'models after 1992', including my 1995 Y60 GQ TB42EFI with manual transmission, 'have a braked towing rating of 2,800 kg All other models are rated at 2,500 kg' ...
Had me worried for a bit. But I'll do a bit of searching to confirm.
Edit 2 ... after a bit of investigation.... no a lot
- I can't find any confirmation of my Gregories Workshop manual suppliment for the 1995 4.2EFI's upgraded tow capacity to 2800kg.
So even if the Patrol has a tow capacity of 2500kg then I am OK. Though the ball weight might be an issue. But after 200,000km towing I'm good with it.
ps.. The Patrol GVM is 2800kg
-- Edited by Cupie on Friday 20th of January 2017 10:43:25 PM
-- Edited by Cupie on Saturday 21st of January 2017 03:06:12 PM
Yes Cupie I looked it up and it took a bit of finding and you are correct (my bad) the 4.2TB EFI has a tow capacity of 2800Kg for vehicles manufactured after Feb 1995.
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20 years old PLUS covered 260,000Km and 
