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Hi to you all. Nearly finish our van conversion. Not to sure on insurance as its registered as a van and want to keep it that way. Would like to know what insurance company to use. Can you insure as a campervan if its registered as a van etc etc? Our friends did a conversion and insured as a camper but still Qld registered as a van!! Any recommendations on a good insurance company to use and any info will be greatly appreciated? Cheers Troy

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I could be wrong, but in Western Australia, I think that it is cheaper rego for a recreation vehicle, than a normal vehicle of the same size

There was a post on insurance about six months ago but I can not find it

It pays to shop around, as prices may depend on what you are covered for, and the no claim bonus percent they give

Set out below is what I posted after research for my motorhome insurance, as my normal insurer RAC in WA, for whatever reasons, do not insure a motorhome

Motorhome Insurance June 2016, I must be on the highest no claim bonus, as it is about 50 years, since my only claim, for hitting a Kangaroo

Make   Model     Body        Year  Colour Tare   Aggr  GCM
FIAT   DUCATO  MOBCVN    2006  WH    3280  3850  5500

 

Premium cost

Windscreen

Hire car after

Theft

Hire car after

Accident

Bring us home

Tow to repair after accident

Accommodation

While waiting for repair

Tow after mechanical breakdown

Basic excess

Agreed value

SGIO

$691.26

Yes

Yes

Not offered

Not offered

Yes

Not offered

Not offered

$550

 

$48,600

KEN TAME (CMCA)

$712.50 plus CMCA $65

Yes if CMCA

$100 Excess

Yes

Yes

Yes theft accident or medical

Yes

Yes

Yes

$600 & $1,000 Year

$200

$60,000

CIL

$794.44

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes theft accident or medical

Yes

Yes

Yes up to $1.000

$200

$60,000

APIA

$1,055.55

Yes

Yes

Yes

Medical Excess?

Yes

Yes

Yes up to $1.000

$500

$60,000


I am not pushing or knocking any insurance company, I only asked for quotes from who I thought were reputable insurers, I am sure there are many more out there

Some private medical funds will insure a recreation vehicle, mine does not, so I did not go down that track for quotes

Adding to the above KEN TAME (CMCA), if I had read the quote paperwork correctly, do not cover when a none member of CMCA is driving

Hope that this info is useful to you

 



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You need to tell any Insurance Company exactly what you are insuring otherwise if you have an accident they may not payout!

So if it's registered not as a van you will need to tell Insurance that.

I am with CIL and had to send photo's of the outside and inside of van.  

Think I am paying about $560 per year for a 2010 VW Transport camper.

Most other Insurance Companies will not Insure a van.

Helen



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Anyone out there actually use Apia? I have had a couple of quotes before from them and they were way off the mark........needless to say they didnt get my business.....and hence I wonder who would use them........or do they just prey on the elderly.


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Bushpie wrote:

Anyone out there actually use Apia? I have had a couple of quotes before from them and they were way off the mark........needless to say they didnt get my business.....and hence I wonder who would use them........or do they just prey on the elderly.


 Do not quote me on this as it is coming from my memory

I had to phone APIA, to get the written quote via email
They kept emphasising the fact that I would be allowed to pay monthly

I had advised all insures I contacted, that I was seeking quotes from others, and they all had the same information from my side, I never asked anyone if I could pay monthly



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Bushpie wrote:

Anyone out there actually use Apia? I have had a couple of quotes before from them and they were way off the mark........needless to say they didnt get my business.....and hence I wonder who would use them........or do they just prey on the elderly.


 We use APIA for all our insurance. Quite happy and a van claim was easy as. thumbsup.gif

Aussie Paul. smile



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Hi all. Thanks for all your replys. Much appreciated. Cheers Troy

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RACQ and QBE.

Not cheapest but instant payouts if you not stupid with claims.

Be careful if insuring as a van.
Vans are CARRIERS.

the interior fitments MAY NOT be covered...

Double check first. Could end up expensive exercise otherwise.

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Tony Re : (Adding to the above KEN TAME (CMCA), if I had read the quote paperwork correctly, do not cover when a none member of CMCA is driving)

Have spoken to Ken Tame Insurance, I understand your comment is not correct. If a CMCA member is in the vehicle but a non member is driving cover is the same as if the member is driving. If a non member is driving and a CMCA member is not in the vehicle, You are covered for your vehicle/other vehicle etc/Legal etc etc, but the non CMCA member does not get the CMCA benefits for eg. Breakdown cover/ emergency accommodation /loan vehicle.. Suggest you confirm this prior to sign up. Of course there are also other CMCA benefits.

Peter

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I just wish that I could have found the original post, Peter

Just in case Ken Tame had altered their policy, since last June, I have just been on their website

I am quoting from the web page below

https://www.kentame.com.au/images/pdf/RV_PDS.pdf

Page 29 of Policy Document and Product Disclosure Statement

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We do not cover you if, at the time of any loss, damage or event giving rise to liability, costs or expenses, the vehicle (including replacement vehicle or substitute vehicle) was:

1. Unlicensed driver being driven by any person, including you, who was not licensed to drive the vehicle. We will not refuse your claim if you can prove that you did not know the driver was unlicensed.

2. Driver under the influence being driven by you, or any other person:

a. under the influence of any drug or intoxicating alcohol; or

b. who, as a result of the accident, is convicted of driving under the influence of intoxicating liquor; or

c. who had a percentage of alcohol in their breath or blood in excess of the percentage permitted by law in the State or Territory where the accident occurred;

or

d. who refused to submit to any test to determine the level of alcohol or drugs in the blood when reasonably requested by the police.

We will not refuse your claim if you can satisfy us you had no reason to suspect that the driver was affected by alcohol or any drug.

3. Use by a Non Member of CMCA being driven by you, or any other person:

a. where you are no longer a current financial member of CMCA, or

b. where the vehicle is loaned to a non financial member of CMCA.

We will not however refuse a claim for theft of or accidental physical loss or physical damage to the vehicle, caravan or trailer, towing costs as a result of an accident, general average costs during sea transportation, windscreen or window breakage and legal liability for property damage only where a. and b. above apply.
Unquote

Perhaps their right hand, does not know what the left hand is doing
I read clause 3, 3a, and 3b, to mean that if I was a member of CMCA, and had Ken Tame insurance, drove from Perth to Brisbane, and then asked my son in law (non member), to fly out and drive my vehicle home, as I had decided to fly/train/boat home, the motorhome would not be insured?

That is my opinion

 



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DON'T go for pricing on near anything.

WHAT they give and what is proven to be actually given, by reputation.
Are the only company's to touch.

With Anything you are buying.

Apart from my Knives (Wusthof and some Japanese) and tools.
I always buy Mid range items of anything.

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Tony re
(3. Use by a Non Member of CMCA being driven by you, or any other person:

a. where you are no longer a current financial member of CMCA, or

b. where the vehicle is loaned to a non financial member of CMCA.

We will not however refuse a claim for theft of or accidental physical loss or physical damage to the vehicle, caravan or trailer, towing costs as a result of an accident, general average costs during sea transportation, windscreen or window breakage and legal liability for property damage only where a. and b. above apply.)
Unquote

Perhaps their right hand, does not know what the left hand is doing
I read clause 3, 3a, and 3b, to mean that if I was a member of CMCA, and had Ken Tame insurance, drove from Perth to Brisbane, and then asked my son in law (non member), to fly out and drive my vehicle home, as I had decided to fly/train/boat home, the motorhome would not be insured?

I am covered by KTI insurance and I spoke to I understand the 2IC of KTI as their CEO was out of the office, re my son a non CMCA member driving our insured vehicle in a similar situation to the one you describe above, and I was assured that the vehicle/other vehicle/legal etc etc would be covered as I mentioned above but the CMCA addon benefits would not be available to my son. I think that the wording in the PDS/Web could be better but that's just my thoughts.

Peter

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Hello Peter

No disrespect intended towards anyone

I went by what I read, on their website for motorhomes

My insurance is due for renewal in July 2017, at that time I may or may not look at Ken Tame again, but it is usual for my wife to just pay any renewals when they arrive, without asking my permission
I am happy with the insurer I picked
Hopefully I will never have to use their services

Clause 3, 3a, and 3b, were from memory, only in the Ken Tame paperwork, and no other insurers

A wise man once said, believe nothing you hear, 50% of what you read, and only 99% of what you see

In my case it is sometimes normal for me to go up to the big smoke, for medical reconstruction work on my hand/s
In this scenario I usually have my caravan/motorhome in a caravan park
When it is time to go home, (being unable to drive), my wife will drive me home in her car, and someone (non-member of CMCA) will drive my recreation vehicle home, on their own

In my humble opinion, if the second in command of Ken Tame Insurance, said that Clause 3, 3a, and 3b, is not applicable, then perhaps they should remove it from their Product Disclosure Statement
They lost my business, and I wonder if others decided to give them a miss, because of that particular clause



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