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Where has all the good quality gone?


Where can I buy some good quality? Any brand will do.

Does it even still exist?

Cheers, John.



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Good quality what??????

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If you tell us what item you wish to buy, then some of us may already have a good quality brand, we can point to



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meetoo wrote:

Where can I buy some good quality? Any brand will do.

Does it even still exist?

Cheers, John.


 Weber make a "good quality" bbq.  Look up BabyQ, ideal for travel.



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meetoo wrote:

Where can I buy some good quality? Any brand will do.

Does it even still exist?

Cheers, John.


 I actually saw a butcher that obviously kills and sells quality cos his advertising said Quality Butcher!blankstare



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Gday...

Unfortunately, quality is all in the perception of the buyer/consumer.

For instance

  • Quality is the degree to which a commodity meets the requirements of the customer at the start of its life.
  • Quality is an experience of the customer. Product quality perception comes from design specifications and manufacture standards achieved.
  • Service quality perception comes from service process design and the customer contact impressions.
  • Quality in a product or service is not what the supplier puts in. It is what the customer gets out and is willing to pay for.
  • Customers judge quality through their perceptions.

So ... I think that what any one of the members of this forum may, or may not, consider quality may in no way meet your perception or quality.

Cheers - John



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So in most cases you get what you pay for .

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Delta18 - Webber make a good quality carry bag for the Baby Q which is ideal for carrying it around and travelling with it in the back of your wagon without the smell. I thought Meeto was just making a tongue in cheek comment about the lack of quality nowadays it wasn't actually a question he wanted answered or I'd be making the same comment as Hewy54 and Tony.

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In business, engineering and manufacturing, quality has a pragmatic interpretation as the non-inferiority or superiority of something; it is also defined as fitness for purpose. Quality is a perceptual, conditional, and somewhat subjective attribute and may be understood differently by different people. Consumers may focus on the specification quality of a product/service, or how it compares to competitors in the marketplace. Producers might measure the conformance quality, or degree to which the product/service was produced correctly.
A quality item (an item that has quality) has the ability to perform satisfactorily in service and is suitable for its intended purpose.
Very rarely found in new mass produced caravans assembled by unskilled labour with inferior Asian componentry.



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Fleabay:)

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Nar its all gone John.......you missed the boat....

And service..........dont get started on that one either.......

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Hahn make good quality beer. smile



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Quality time with family and good friends......usually free, non brand specific.

 



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sandsmere wrote:

Hahn make good quality beer. smile


 Now someone mentioned perception. I perceive Hahn to be not that good. 



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Possum3 wrote:

In business, engineering and manufacturing, quality has a pragmatic interpretation as the non-inferiority or superiority of something; it is also defined as fitness for purpose. Quality is a perceptual, conditional, and somewhat subjective attribute and may be understood differently by different people. Consumers may focus on the specification quality of a product/service, or how it compares to competitors in the marketplace. Producers might measure the conformance quality, or degree to which the product/service was produced correctly.
A quality item (an item that has quality) has the ability to perform satisfactorily in service and is suitable for its intended purpose.
Very rarely found in new mass produced caravans assembled by unskilled labour with inferior Asian componentry.


 Eh??



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Possum3 wrote:

In business, engineering and manufacturing, quality has a pragmatic interpretation as the non-inferiority or superiority of something; it is also defined as fitness for purpose. Quality is a perceptual, conditional, and somewhat subjective attribute and may be understood differently by different people. Consumers may focus on the specification quality of a product/service, or how it compares to competitors in the marketplace. Producers might measure the conformance quality, or degree to which the product/service was produced correctly.
A quality item (an item that has quality) has the ability to perform satisfactorily in service and is suitable for its intended purpose.
Very rarely found in new mass produced caravans assembled by unskilled labour with inferior Asian componentry.


 Eh??



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I have some here @metoo, its a bit expensive though.
Drop by if you want some

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If you want to better understand the management of quality in manufacturing look up W.Edwards Deming on wikipedia the man who is credited with rebuilding Japan after WW2 into the world's 2nd largest economy... or you could just poke yourself in the eye with a blunt stick which could be less painful for some than reading about some statitician. One thing I was always told Meeto never trust people that include words in their title like quality, honest, reliable, or friendly cause you may end up being very disappointed.

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Possum3 wrote:

In business, engineering and manufacturing, quality has a pragmatic interpretation as the non-inferiority or superiority of something; it is also defined as fitness for purpose. Quality is a perceptual, conditional, and somewhat subjective attribute and may be understood differently by different people. Consumers may focus on the specification quality of a product/service, or how it compares to competitors in the marketplace. Producers might measure the conformance quality, or degree to which the product/service was produced correctly.
A quality item (an item that has quality) has the ability to perform satisfactorily in service and is suitable for its intended purpose.
Very rarely found in new mass produced caravans assembled by unskilled labour with inferior Asian componentry.


 "Asian componentry????

Stoves, fridges, hot water systems not made in Asia, some of the cabinetry may be Asian, but is the assembly here that is the problem, certainly not the Asians?

As adreamer said "Eh????"

 

 



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There is 3 components to quality: Quality of design, quality of components, and quality of assembly / manufacture. If these 3 are met, doesn't matter where the item is made.

Lots of stoves & fridges seem to be made in Europe - Italy & Eastern Europe.

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i recently bought a good quality thingy  top brand  off flea bayconfuse



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Because MOST first world businesses are now making things in third world countries . Thinking they can make cheaper and make more profits !!

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If it's broken just replace it with a cheap & nasty one, it's not worth paying for a quality one.

When the cheap & nasty one gives up the ghost just get another one.

Let's face it, at our age why bother to look & pay for something that's going to outlive us?



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Possum3 wrote:

SNIP~~~ Quality is a perceptual, conditional, and somewhat subjective attribute and may be understood differently by different people. ~~~SNIP


Gday...

The above is the only factual answer to the question posed by meeto in the OP.

It is something different in relation to each person's requirements and/or expectation - and something different in the product and/or service one is availing oneself of.

Cheers - John



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Tony Bev wrote:

If you tell us what item you wish to buy, then some of us may already have a good quality brand, we can point to


 The Belmont Bear, yes it was tongue in cheek smile, but Tony Bev and others, I wish to thank you for your sincere replies, Thanks.

Cheers, John.



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LLD wrote:
sandsmere wrote:

Hahn make good quality beer. smile


 Now someone mentioned perception. I perceive Hahn to be not that good. 


Aahh LLD. I had a couple of Hahns last night and the quality was fine.

Maybe you should see a perception doctor. smile 



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sandsmere wrote:

Hahn make good quality beer. smile


Where did you say you live again.smile 



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You cannot buy quality in Australia anymore because it is being exported for the overseas dollar. It is a shame that we buy supermarket garbage because the quality is forced upon us! Where are the butchers who provided meat from the cooler that has been hung and cured? Try and buy a fresh crayfish from a boat, I haven't seen a green crayfish for years! Look at the Coral Trout exporters out of Cooktown. It is still a wonder that in country SA you can buy salt bush lamb! Stop selling Australia offshore and provide Australians with our own prime produce! I'd love to get a nice Spiny Cray, fresh from the sea and give it a go the barbie!

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Quality produce in Australia! contradiction in terms.no

We Aussies have been brainwashed into  thinking food stuffs grown and produced here are second to none, not so, we miss by a country mile, if you want high quality produce visit the US, prices are lower and and quality is way and above most of what we have available here.

Meat____ head and shoulders above what's available here, and significantly cheaper, if it looks good it usually is very good, in Aust the packagers have learned how to make inferior meat look good when displayed, pretty disappointing to pay $35 kg for what looks good and turns out to be tasteless boot leather.

Fruit and vegetables____ good quality, wider variety and cheaper.

The two things that let them down terribly are butter (white tasteless grease) and bread (sweet, light and fluffy)

And, before someone comes back and claims the meat, fruit etc is imported from Aust, not the case, you seldom see anything Australian on supermarket shelves, except perhaps Yellowtail wine.

We've been fed the lie that Aussie produce is superior for far too long, it's not, most of the produce available in supermarkets is under ripe tasteless rubbish and the meat is no exception.

 

No not taking from the experiences of a single trip, we have been frequent visitors to the US since the early 70's, currently have Family living on the East coast, just south of Baltimore, my wife is over there at the moment, big shopping trip yesterday, don't get her started on the cheapness of clothing, footwear etc, unbelievable.smile

 

 

 



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IMO quality Australian produce is exported out of the country.

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