Gold Coast prosecutes you if you sleep in a caravan on private property

rrakausk · Veteran Member

Gold Coast prosecutes you if you sleep in a caravan on private property

The Belmont Bear · Guru

I was just wondering do kids in the Gold Coast who pitch a tent in their own backyard and have a sleep out also get prosecuted ? Lucky for us we didn't live in the Gold Coast when we were kids or we may have spent some time sleeping in the big house..

Desert Dweller · Guru

Hasn't the Gold Coast got the highest crime rate in Australia? Who'd want to go there anyway?

Cupie · Guru

Hi Rick ...

Where did you get this info from. But it doesn't surprise me ytjat any council would ban 'living' in vans on private property. BTW I saw a van parked in the front of a house on the GCoast on my way home today.

DD ..

I for one like to visit the GCoast & often do, having just returned home today after enjoying a few days around the top end near Sovereign Is. Kayaking in the broadwater & local canals, beautiful water & cheap restaurant lunches at Runaway Bay.

Don't know about the highest crime rate in Aus .. Do you have a source for that statement. I couldn't find one with a quick Google search.

PS. I like visiting the GC but it is not a place where I'd live, but I have several relos who do, in a wide range of accomodation types & all love the life.

Desert Dweller · Guru

Cupie wrote:

DD
I for one like to visit the GCoast & often do, having just returned home today after enjoying a few days around the top end near Sovereign Is. Kayaking in the broadwater & local canals, beautiful water & cheap restaurant lunches at Runaway Bay.
Don't know about the highest crime rate in Aus .. Do you have a source for that statement. I couldn't find one with a quick Google search.

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings.jsp Number 137. Highest for Australia.

Hydeeeho · Senior Member

Nothing wrong with the Gold Coast, we have lived there since 1999 and just love the place, would not live anywhere else, yes there is crime on the Gold Coast but isn't there crime anywhere ???

jonathan · Member

.. Aren't we lucky to still have a freedom of choice on where we live .. or don't live. You only have to please yourselves and no-one else .. still a remarkably free country !

The Belmont Bear · Guru

Loved the Gold Coast when we were kids and went there for family holidays in the mid 60s, small towns were strung along the golden beaches from Surfers down to Coolangatta/Tweed Heads. Attractions like Sea World at Coolangatta, the bird sanctuary at Currumbin, Giltraps auto museum, Grundys at Surfers and being entertained by kids shows in the rotunda on the beach at Burlieh. I loved the Gold Coast when we took our kids up there on holidays in the 80s, all of those small coastal towns were now joined together by a major highway, lots of high rise buildings going up, a casino for big kids, Sea World, Movie World, Dreamworld.

My wife and I stayed at the Sea World resort for 3 days on our way back from Noosa in 2006, the Gold Coast had lost it's appeal for us it was now just like any of our other big coastal cities, lots of traffic, sprawling look alike suburbs, endless high rises strung along the beaches.

When our 3 grand kids get a little older we will all go up there again for that family holiday and I'm sure that the appeal of the place as a holiday destination will have returned. You are right Hydeeeho there is nothing wrong with the Gold Coast, enough people have chosen to live there to back up that theory. A lot of people don't like this Newcastle area either but I wouldn't choose to live anywhere else.

Cupie · Guru

Desert Dweller wrote:
Cupie wrote:

DD
I for one like to visit the GCoast & often do, having just returned home today after enjoying a few days around the top end near Sovereign Is. Kayaking in the broadwater & local canals, beautiful water & cheap restaurant lunches at Runaway Bay.
Don't know about the highest crime rate in Aus .. Do you have a source for that statement. I couldn't find one with a quick Google search.

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings.jsp Number 137. Highest for Australia.

Thanks for that. I see that their ratings are based on reports from visitors to their site and not actual numbers.

Numbeo ratings show GC as just out of the 'low' into the 'moderate' range and only 0.29 (0.6% higher) above Perth.

I can understand how GC is not for all .. thankfully, as there are crowds there at Surfers currently with the Schoolies just started. But there are lots of quiet amazing spots there too with some of the best beaches, great hinterland and relatively unspoiled Stradbroke Is just a short paddle away too.

There are ranges of alternative living options available. One friend/relo lives in a delightful suburban home in a quiet cul de sac 100m from the broadwater, another with the coffee latte set in their modern apartment with sweeping views of the ocean <100m away & also look across Jupiters Casino to the ranges. Another two families live in gated communities on canals amid golf courses with all the 'beautiful' people. Yet more have holiday apartments down by the NSW border that they visit regularly. Meanwhile we live in the 'burbs in Brissy. Each to their own.

As we tour this great land we tend to look for the positives in where people live & try never to say 'how could people live here' although it is hard sometimes

LLD · Senior Member

I think the same about camping (caravan, tents) in view of the street is a no-no in most places. Similar to unregistered vehicles. They are not allowed on the street, nature strip, visible in the front yard. If they are in the driveway they must down the driveway behind the front of the house. If you have a high fence so what is in your front yard cannot be seen, you may get away with it.

hako · Guru

Most councils have similar regulations but will only prosecute if a complaint is made by a ratepayer - it's the same for a crowing rooster or barking dog.

Good Luck.

Santa · Guru

Gold Coast may not be the highest, however its certainly right up there, the place holds no attraction for us, never has.

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/country_result.jsp?country=Australia

Rank

	City	Crime Index	Safety Index
1	Townsville	61.80	38.20
2	Darwin	57.52	42.48
3	Gold Coast	45.99	54.01
4	Perth	45.21	54.79
5	Cairns	43.04	56.96
6	Melbourne	40.69	59.31
7	Sydney	40.58	59.42
8	Newcastle	39.94	60.06
9	Brisbane	36.44	63.56
10	Adelaide	34.45	65.55
11	Hobart	33.06	66.94
12	Canberra	27.42	72.58

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

I assume this is to move the bogan type on . When we free camp . We never stop right on the beach road where there's houses .. Maybe a dead end road ? Trouble is you only need one complaint which effects everyone !! Why so few stuff things up for so many !! Narks and bogans !! Sheesh .,

LLD · Senior Member

As noted, Councils only move on by-law matters when complaints are made.

We have a Xmas street party in a park in the street. Alcohol is only allowed in the park up to a certain time and only if neighbours agree according to council. So the whole street always notified.

Bit off topic. We are all very insulated these days with auto garage doors, kids playing inside a lot, most mail coming via e-mail, we just don't see neighbours. All the kids in the street went to 6 different primary schools and had never really met each other. They all had a hoot.

Koala · Veteran Member

Hi,

Think you'll find many caravan parks on G C are owned by council ? I can understand people not being allowed to pull up & camp willy nilly in any street I for one would not like some random at front of my place. As for someone parking a Van in a yard etc seems to be extreme ? Backpackers park in car parks along beaches which I don't agree with, they are ones usually leaving untidy areas. I also think that crime is everywhere so no different to other cities & towns in Aus.

Koala

Bryan · Guru

Santa wrote:
Gold Coast may not be the highest, however its certainly right up there, the place holds no attraction for us, never has.

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/country_result.jsp?country=Australia

Rank

City
Crime Index
Safety Index
1 Townsville 61.80 38.20
2 Darwin 57.52 42.48
3 Gold Coast 45.99 54.01
4 Perth 45.21 54.79
5 Cairns 43.04 56.96
6 Melbourne 40.69 59.31
7 Sydney 40.58 59.42
8 Newcastle 39.94 60.06
9 Brisbane 36.44 63.56
10 Adelaide 34.45 65.55
11 Hobart 33.06 66.94
12 Canberra 27.42 72.58
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That list is WRONG. Canberra should be top of list by far

Moorey · Senior Member

Hi Bryan

I know what you are driving at but they don't belong to Canberra, they are sent their by all the other states which also helps keeps their numbers down.

Moorey biggrin biggrin biggrin

moamajohn · Guru

So what if I own the van on my own property and I choose to sleep in it and let the bludgy rellies sleep in the house ? I,d love to work out how they would monitor all this crap !I showed this topic to a barrister mate today and he said he would have a field day in court with this !

rrakausk · Veteran Member

Source was a Gold Coast pubic servant who said they had a complaint from a neighbour (the place is on acreage).
Its an environmental concern evidently - obviously they have not considered vans with grey water tanks etc.
And yeah I get it - especially on a suburban block where grey water is alowed to spil and/or accumulate

I agree with the randoms not camping in the street, but there should be free/low cost places they can stay.

What narks me and is symptomatic of how pussified this country has become is
1. the fact a person hasn't the balls or ovaries to discuss their perceived problem face to face - they run to the "authorities"
2. if it's my place, what the hell business is it of anyone, council or otherwise, who sleeps where?

When I was young camping wasn't an issue. nowadays you can't pull up anyplace without some clown wanting money
or telling you you can't do that here.

We still have a lot of freedoms in Oz, but it is rapidly becomeng something not recognisable as Australian any more.

Tony Bev · Guru

It was the same in Kalgoorlie in the late 1980's

Caravan park owner use to put his head over the tin fence of the back yard, to see if anybody was living in my daughters caravan

He use to dob people into the council, council use to send out a letter etc

I do remember people dobbing him into the police, as a peeping Tom

If I remember it correctly, there was a bit of a write up in the local paper

Desert Dweller · Guru

Santa wrote:
Gold Coast may not be the highest, however its certainly right up there, the place holds no attraction for us, never has.

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/country_result.jsp?country=Australia

Rank

City
Crime Index
Safety Index
1 Townsville 61.80 38.20
2 Darwin 57.52 42.48
3 Gold Coast 45.99 54.01
4 Perth 45.21 54.79
5 Cairns 43.04 56.96
6 Melbourne 40.69 59.31
7 Sydney 40.58 59.42
8 Newcastle 39.94 60.06
9 Brisbane 36.44 63.56
10 Adelaide 34.45 65.55
11 Hobart 33.06 66.94
12 Canberra 27.42 72.58
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Not our cup of tea either. http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/crime-court/gold-coast-bikies-are-partners-in-crime-according-to-police-figures/news-story/2b472c4c3237ebfdfb418243380870b5

Papou · Senior Member

I say do your thing best you can without leaving a mess , upsetting anyone and as the saying goes "Live n let live " :)....