the rocket wrote:

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hello everyone, we were at sleepy hollowrest stop. The sign says no camping. does that mean no tents or does that include caravans n sleeping in cars?

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 Rest stop!  Means have a rest then move on!!

Helen

There is big bays that say trucks only

Wikicamps does say overnight allowed but very noisy as close to road

the rocket wrote:

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There is big bays that say trucks only

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 Hi Rocket

If the signs say "Trucks Only" then PLEASE do not stop there. Truck bays are for trucks only as they are legally required to take mandated rest breaks and if truck bays are clogged up with light vehicles then a truckie may be in for a very big fine and loss of points.

Phillipn wrote:

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The NSW police will not move you on if you are resting. This information came from a NSW police officer. The rules of the road state that you must rest if you are tied.

A rest may be a few minutes or over night, No one can determine that you are not tied.

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 If you're "tied" then you probably can't move irrespective of whether you are tired or not!

The word was probably spelt correctly, the auto spellcheck often ,changes the spelling and you need to double check things ,in my case triple check things and I still get it wrong...

don't take it personally Phillipn. The comments made by others about "tied" rather than "tired" was in jest - not having a shot at you.

I laughed when I read your post with the typo error - but we all do it !

I sometimes read a comment I posted previously and see my typos - reckon 90% have spelling errors, bad grammer etc - but who cares - just post and keep the GN's site active :))

brickies wrote:

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If we want to have free camps we need not to push boundaries. If I see a sign no camping I would feel free to have lunch or tea break but would not think of staying overnight .

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 G'day Brickies

it was a roadside rest area not a free camp and in NSW one overnight stay to rest is permitted by RMS. The no camping sign is there to give them the right to move on anyone that tries to stay for more than one night.

Frank

Gday...

This topic highlights one of the shortcomings of forums. 

There are just so many posts and replies that information quickly gets buried. Those new to the site - or who visit infrequently - can very easily miss the information.

This is an emailed reply from Roads and Maritime Services, NSW to an email query sent for clarification of the installation of No Camping signs along various places on the Pacific Hwy. It was received 24 October 2014. 

Thank you for your correspondence to Roads and Maritime Services regarding rest areas.

Please be advised that driver fatigue is one of the three big killers on NSW roads and can be as dangerous as speeding or drink driving. Roads and Maritime Services is committed to providing rest areas along key routes in NSW to allow all motorists to take appropriate breaks and to avoid fatigue. All motorists recognising the signs of fatigue should rest accordingly. 

The maximum permissible stay in a rest area is not specified, given that all motorists needs are different, with varying levels of fatigue, at varying times of night and day. Some may need to stop for a few hours until they are ready to continue their journey safely. Please note, rest areas are not designed to be camping grounds or caravan parks. Using rest areas for multiple overnight stays as part of a planned itinerary is not in keeping with their intended purpose and it reduces the availability of spaces for motorists needing a break before continuing on their journey. Those needing camping facilities for an extended stay are encouraged to look for camping areas or caravan parks in towns along the way.

Roads and Maritime is currently working to increase and improve the network of state-wide rest areas, including easy-to-understand signage, vendors to provide coffee and refreshments and improved facilities. We are also working to ensure that heavy vehicle drivers are catered for with designated heavy vehicle rest areas available for them to take obligatory fatigue breaks. In peak periods especially, holiday makers are encouraged to use rest areas that have designated parking for light and recreational vehicles.

Note that individual local councils not Roads and Maritime, monitor and enforce any restriction related to the duration of stay in a road side rest area. 

To help to plan your rest stops go to the Roads and Maritime Interactive Rest Area Map at http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/usingroads/restareas/

I hope this has been of assistance.

Kind Regards

Chris
Christine Murray
Regional Government Information Services Officer, Hunter 
Government Information Services | Strategy & Engagement
T 02 4924 0204 M 0411 286 673
www.rms.nsw.gov.au
Every journey matters

Roads and Maritime Services
Level 1 59 Darby St Newcastle NSW 2300

This is also from the NRMA website from late last year -

It is fully conceded that a sign stating "No Camping" can be offputting. Those amongst us who feel we need (want) to comply with legal signage, would naturally move on and not spend the night "resting".

However, it is fairly clear (as thin(?) mud?) that if one stops at one of this sites in NSW in the very late afternoon/early evening, then an overnight 'restful' sleep is not frowned upon - nor would it attract the wrath of authorities and a subsequent lightening of one's wallet/purse.

Cheers - John

Who'd want to stay at Sleepy Hollow any way , smells like a sewage treatment works on th n/bound & th noise has been mentioned.

I occasionally use rest areas & other "my spots" where , instead of dropping the seat back & having an hour or two . Jump into my

bed In the van & have several hours . I DON'T put my top up & I don't have the awning out.

It was on here a couple of weeks ago , about some of us towing our van well into the night.

Like the little spod down from Chinderah heading towards Murwullimbah , I had been stopping in there for years , having an hour or 3/4.

It's closed . And heaps more will close too . If we don't look after em.

brickies wrote:

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I note that letter is 2 year old and for NSW only I will play it safe and that notice of no camping sign and take a rest in rest area.

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 WHAT IS THE PROBLEM??? Rest, sleep nap, have a yarn. go for a walk, have a cup of tea WHATEVER.

NO CAMPING!!!! setting up camp is completely different and you don't have to be a genius to work out the difference.

If people don't want to take a break or rest then the onus is on them.

Why would anyone not driving a truck want to rest in a TRUCK STOP!  Besides being abused by the truckies you might be run over with 56 wheels.

Geez let's talk about something serious.  Like the poor unfortunate man who was WORKING, probably to support his family and then had accelerant thrown at him and set on light!!

Helen

 

adreamer wrote:

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brickies wrote:

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I note that letter is 2 year old and for NSW only I will play it safe and that notice of no camping sign and take a rest in rest area.

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 WHAT IS THE PROBLEM??? Rest, sleep nap, have a yarn. go for a walk, have a cup of tea WHATEVER.

NO CAMPING!!!! setting up camp is completely different and you don't have to be a genius to work out the difference.

If people don't want to take a break or rest then the onus is on them.

Why would anyone not driving a truck want to rest in a TRUCK STOP!  Besides being abused by the truckies you might be run over with 56 wheels.

Geez let's talk about something serious.  Like the poor unfortunate man who was WORKING, probably to support his family and then had accelerant thrown at him and set on light!!

Helen

 

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 RIP to that poor man, you are right Helen, we discuss some trivial matters at times. But its free and fun to do so.. 

I guess these senseless tragedies ground us back on the straight and narrow.

Cheers

I stay at sleepy hollow rest area regularly after visiting my Daughter in Ballina. (I don't drive at night). The Truck area is the driveway on the right, Caravans and campers are the driveway on the left. It's a bit noisy but not bad and I always get a good nights sleep then I head out refreshed in the morning to travel home. Don't listen to the Negative Nellies opinions about not sleeping overnight in designated Rest Areas, that's what they're there for. Just to be clear I was a Police Officer for 26 years, 15 of them in the Traffic Branch. We "WANT" you to sleep in the Rest Areas that are provided for you. We're all aware of the consequences if You Don't!!!