Will end of greyhound racing in NSW and ACT mean more camping grounds?

hino motorhome · Veteran Member

RE: Will end of greyhound racing in NSW and ACT mean more camping grounds?

NeilandRaine · Guru

Good read in todays Sunday Telegraph
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/why-have-we-let-vegans-with-piercings-destroy-greyhound-racing/news-story/7059d515558ea90be78364e13d0c9606

dishlicker · Senior Member

AH Time for an inquiry for 2 /4 yrs then a royal commission 3/4 yrs and after well have a white paper 2/3 yrs and then don't forget political correctness **** it'll never happen to much pressure.

Sheffield-er · Senior Member

Having worked for a vet for fourteen years I can assure you Dorian - they are the most lovely natured dogs you could ever wish for. Held dozens of them while the vet did some necessary but unpleasant and painful things. Never a snap or a snarl from them. Friend has two retired ones and they ARE great with their grandchildren. Instead of an overload of politicians who spend their time squabbling and backbiting, we need competent people out there doing the rounds to make sure that things are being run the correct way.

.... Val

Cupie · Guru

My first pig dog was 3/4 english bull terrier & 1/4 Grey Hound.

The Bull terrier line was one with a great record as pig dogs but the Greyhound line was from a bitch who only wanted to attack the other dogs when let out of the gate. We wanted the greyhound bit to make him faster onto the pigs & lift him up a bit when chasing through the scrub. The breeder had lost a couple of good dogs staked in the long grass or being done over by a boar after arriving on the scene too knocked up after a long chase.

At least that's what Sgt Plod the breeder told me.

In any case it was a fantastic & (mostly) controllable pig dog .. always went for the ear & stayed on. Important as we hunted together without other dogs. Just a big knife or pistol.

But he was great with kids. A favourite trick was to play with their ears, holding them down without drawing blood.

I got tired of taking him walking every afternoon, so I got into the habit of letting him out the gate to go on his own. Worked great for a bit. He would come back in an hour or so all knocked up. Eventually the neighbours began to complain that he was doing the rounds beating up all their dogs ,, even the ones chained up.

Must have been the Bull Terrier in him & not the Greyhound.

dorian · Guru

There must be few better ways to enjoy oneself than watching a properly blooded pet rip a pig to shreds. Ah, the great outdoors!

george57 · Senior Member

My brother had a greyhound as a pet.....beautiful nature....perhaps after all the years of owning fatdog, maybe a skinny dog is the next companion...

Cheers

Cupie · Guru

dorian wrote:
There must be few better ways to enjoy oneself than watching a properly blooded pet rip a pig to shreds. Ah, the great outdoors!

Sure, something that I wouldn't do these days. Too old to run thru the bush or to climb a safety tree.

In fact a 'properly blooded pet' doesn't 'rip a pig to shreds', that is what the pig does to newborn sheep & perhaps calves. The dog just goes in & restrains the pig by holding an ear. If in a pack, one dog might grab a hind leg.

The hunter dispatches the pig with a pig sticker/large knife into the jagular. Just like they do in the abattoirs. Or perhaps a single shot into the brain .. taking care not to hit the dog of course.

-- Edited by Cupie on Monday 11th of July 2016 09:03:55 AM

dorian · Guru

I think the end of greyhound racing represents the inevitable evolution of our moral Zeitgeist. Imagine if nothing had changed since Roman times. We would now have one hundred thousand bloodthirsty spectators packed into the Melbourne Cricket Colosseum to watch a matchup between the Lions and the Muslims. No doubt some people will dismiss the focus on animal cruelty as some kind of feminisation of modern society. Others will say that gambling is part of the culture, but AISI the racing business is irredeemably involved with organised crime. In fact it's the nature of the beast. Good riddance to a bad industry, I say.

BTW, in 20 years of walking my dogs, I had never before encountered a greyhound. Yet today, for the very first time, I walked past a couple with their hound on a leash. My dog has been attacked twice by terriers, so this has made her very wary. Most other dogs usually pick up on this and become emboldened toward her, but this greyhound just stood its ground, gave my dog a glance, and then looked away, apparently disinterested.

goldfinger · Senior Member

I left the Greyhound Industry years ago as a hobby trainer...because it was, and still is a vile cruel sport....majority are the desperados of the ""Racing Industry"..mostly non dog nor animal loving folk...the dogs themselves are beautiful natured, however no small animal is safe around them after they have been blooded..its why they must wear muzzles....most training/breeding estabs have substantial numbers of greyhounds buried down the back after their, as its described in the Industry,' last walk'...blooding them with small animals and pigeons tied to a long pole swung in a circle after releasing them from a racing box usually secreted somewhere on their property...many pet shops used to have standing orders for their kittens and rabbits/guinea pigs etc..vile blatant cruelty well known and mostly hidden within the Industry...left to their own devices they will not and cannot clean up their ""Industry"".
Live hare coursing was also banned years ago because of obvious cruelty.. against howls of protest from their "dog loving owners' at the time...

Good riddance and I hope this non sport is banned by osmosis through each State...

This proposed Legislation will not help those dogs already born..it is about protecting those Greyhound pups that will not NOW be bred in the future, because if there is not a quid in it for their breeders/owners..these non dog loving folk will lose interest fast in Greyhounds per ce'..
Of course you can expect the shows of 'loving owners' to now be displayed.....of course there will be howls of protests from the vested financial interests....all to be expected, and they had their chance if they were ever going to remove the blatant cruelty on so many levels..in their ""Sport"".

Perhaps the usual fat slug trainers can use their walking machines now to lose some weight and find an honest occupation.
I hope the NSW Gov't stands firm on this and other States take note as well...Hoo Roo

-- Edited by goldfinger on Monday 11th of July 2016 09:56:06 AM

-- Edited by goldfinger on Monday 11th of July 2016 09:59:36 AM

Phillipn · Guru

And the good news is the animal liberation mob have been defeated. Greyhounds racing is to continue.

I hope Mark Pearson drowns in his tears.

Wizardofoz · Guru

It was never going to happen, not for the money involved but because it was attacking the battler, the battlers were in bigger numbers that the government thought, and battlers fight long and hard which is a lesson that Baird & Grant have now learnt the hard way, much to their tarnished ego's.

the working class cannot be bullied when in large numbers and the Chips are down!!!

Phillipn · Guru

Wizardofoz wrote:
It was never going to happen, not for the money involved but because it was attacking the battler, the battlers were in bigger numbers that the government thought, and battlers fight long and hard which is a lesson that Baird & Grant have now learnt the hard way, much to their tarnished ego's.
the working class cannot be bullied when in large numbers and the Chips are down!!!

This was the tip of the ice berg for the animal liberation ratbag mob, they want to ban everything involving animals. That includes raising cattle, sheep, pigs and poultry for slaughter.

Milking cows is also on their list. If they had their way the economy of the country would be at risk.

Banning Childrens animal petting at shopping centres and shows is another of their weird ideas.

Go into their web site, if you do not believe me.

sandsmere · Guru

Phillipn wrote:
And the good news is the animal liberation mob have been defeated. Greyhounds racing is to continue.
I hope Mark Pearson drowns in his tears.

Yes . Sanity has prevailed at last.

Less than 1% of the industry were doing the wrong thing and I have no problem

with coming down hard on them.

Quite a lot more than 1% of our esteemed leaders are doing the wrong thing though, and getting away with it. furious

Ron-D · Guru

These dogs are bred to race not as pets that's a fact. They are a dog that most people would not have as a pet ,what happens when they cannot do what there bread to do, the kind loving breeder looks after them the rest of there lives I suppose,feeds them,nurtures them in growing numbers over the years,that's not going to happen in most cases,what happens to these poor creatures probably a bullet in the head and buried in a pit,that's my concern...

CC Bear · Senior Member

Glad another win for common sence, should look hard at the backyard breeder and how many animals they put down every year. Certainly would be greater in number and cruelty compared to the greyhound industry.

Wizardofoz · Guru

The fact is more racehorses are 'put down' than greyhounds and the RSPCA is the biggest animal 'exterminator' of all...the government sure has it's priorities skewed and they are out of whack. The Animal Liberation movement does have it's priorities too and they are completely off the planet, they should all be the 1st occupants of Mars, that would sort them out well and truly biggrin

-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Friday 14th of October 2016 11:31:38 AM

Phillipn · Guru

Wizardofoz wrote:
The fact is more racehorses are 'put down' than greyhounds and the RSPCA is the biggest animal 'exterminator' of all...the government sure has it's priorities skewed and they are out of whack. The Animal Liberation movement does have it's priorities too and they are completely off the planet, they should all be the 1st occupants of Mars, that would sort them out well and truly

-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Friday 14th of October 2016 11:31:38 AM

Mark Pearson needs to be on the first flight, I know a lot of people who will pay for his one way ticket.