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G'day.

The other day, I met a bloke who, like me travels Australia a lot. He does volunteer work, wherever. Seems he bought into a small caravan park north east of Dunnydoo, NSW.

He had a small hay shed type dwelling built, with accommodation, including gas hot water/shower and toilet. Still needing to travel some more, he decided to sell the site for about the same it cost him. About $40.000.ono

The weekly rent is $55.a week. The bloke who wanted to buy it is of good character, and a JP. However, the owners, since opening the park have, apparently, become very greedy, and highly disliked by many of the residents. They told the would be buyer that because his brother lived in the park, (also of good character), they didn't like him, so he wasn't allowed to buy the site!!?? It seems that when ever someone in the park complains, or even argues, about a situation as above, the management change the rules to suit themselves. Then again, there's always three sides to every story.

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This could all change with a letter from lawyer ., to get thing in writing ., then things can be done legally ..

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$55 a week is cheap ,I like that rule

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Much like Group/Company Title units of Olde. If the board didn't like an applicant!!!



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I bought a cabin on the sth coast, NSW to spend the summers away from the monsoon heat. The park owners have not given me a Rental contract after 4 months. Does this mean there is no contract, and I can stay as long as I like ? I have requested a contract since buying the cabin. Should I get legal advice? I would appreciate your views. Bill


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No Contract no rules to follow

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Hello bill12


I do not know about any NSW regulations

Over here in the West, I was going to buy a cabin type caravan, as a base closer to the city, in a Caravan Park in Mandurah, south of Perth.
I found that you could only live there, for a certain amount of weeks per year.
According to the Caravan Park owners it was a Council by-law.
If you wanted to buy a caravan cabin, as a permanent site, then the fees were about triple the cost.

So as Wombat 280 has said, no contract should mean that there are no rules to follow, in regards to how long you can stay

On the other hand, it has been reported in the news during the last year, that a Caravan Park here in the West was sold to developers, and all the permanent residents were given notice.
If their permanent structures were not removed by a certain time, they would receive a bill for the removal cost
I take this to mean that a contract was only with the original owner, and only while they owned the land

I stand to be corrected



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There are permanents' there, and the park has recently changed hands, but the new owners are duffers , in my opinion. I was told 150 days a year, and no new permanents'. But they have given me no contract, so there should be no rules, right? .Too cold in winter, anyway, but lovely in summer. The cabin is an old workers hut from the Snowy rivers scheme, and will fit in a semi tray, So moving it isn't a problem. These owners seem to have too much power. Bill

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I think you will find that this forum consists mainly of bush lawyers, so you can only be certain of your legal standing by consulting a solicitor that deals with the law as it pertains to caravan parks and mobile home villages etc.
Always remember that free advice is worth exactly that, nothing.
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This is really concerning, if all the facts are as you say- caravan parks are regulated and this dwelling would come under a "part 4A" agreement- it is an offence not to have one signed and teh park owners could be up for considerable fines. This comes under the Dept of Justice and regulation - I know this because when we bought the park we had one permanent who should have had an agreement but the previous park owners had not done so, we started the process of getting a part 4A sorted out, but our very elderly permanent was very stressed by paperwork and contracts and the dept in their wisdom waived the necessity in our particular case.
I would urge your friend to contact this dept , 03 8684 0000 or 1300 365111.
Sounds like this park is well overdue for an audit from them.

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Hi Bill, see my reply above.



-- Edited by hokianga on Friday 1st of April 2016 02:53:47 PM

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Thanks. the park is in Sthern Nsw.Do the laws change from state to state? I get the distinct notion that if you rock the boat, you will be kicked out. I am not unhappy the way things are , but would like to know my rights in the matter. Will make some enquiries.

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A lot of CP are now hand tied by local council rules, including the 'so many days a year' rule, makes it very hard on people wishing to sell what was a permanent site, and even harder on poor pensioners without a home whose only hope in past was to buy a caravan and annex

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bill12 wrote:

I bought a cabin on the sth coast, NSW to spend the summers away from the monsoon heat. The park owners have not given me a Rental contract after 4 months. Does this mean there is no contract, and I can stay as long as I like ? I have requested a contract since buying the cabin. Should I get legal advice? I would appreciate your views. Bill

In SA the default Legislation that used to cover this (when no contract existed) was the standard tenancy agreement under that ACT. 



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I get the distinct impression that the managers don,t know either, and that is why I haven,t been given a contract. The blind leading the blind..so to speak. I am trying the Tenancy advocate in NSW. will post the result. Bill

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Good luck, would highly recommend you ring that govt dept.


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Pipes.

I looked in NSW Acts and it looks like this act [Holiday Parks (Long-term Casual Occupation) Act 2002 No 88] applies to your situation.

http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/xref/inforce/?xref=Type%3Dact%20AND%20Year%3D2002%20AND%20no%3D88&nohits=y

You need to read it carefully and the pages are selected from the menu on the left.

If I get your drift PART 2 applies to you, BUT please read and get advice if required.

http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/xref/inforce/?xref=Type%3Dact%20AND%20Year%3D2002%20AND%20no%3D88&nohits=y

I hope this helps

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Thanks, Baz. This is very illuminating. I will read it closely. It seems the park is in breach of the act. I wonder what penalty units are? I don't really want to stir the pot, but it would be nice to know my rights in the matter. Thanks, Again. Bill

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bill12 wrote:

Thanks, Baz. This is very illuminating. I will read it closely. It seems the park is in breach of the act. I wonder what penalty units are? I don't really want to stir the pot, but it would be nice to know my rights in the matter. Thanks, Again. Bill

Bill sorry I meant to address this to you also.

If you are having problems that can be addressed under this ACT (or regulations if there are any) you could ask if they are familiar with the Act, ie just a simple question.

Park owners must provide you with information, see this part of the Act.

http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/xref/inforce/?xref=Type%3Dact%20AND%20Year%3D2002%20AND%20no%3D88&nohits=y 

Depending on their response, I would proceed to ensure your interests are preserved.

Cheers Baz



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