hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa<gasp> a government of any stripe return to previous level????which rain did you come down with.?

no sorry John but that would never happen. Can you recall of that happening in your lifetime?

Pete

It will help to pay for Joe Hockey's $170,000 per year, to sit on his ar*s and smoke cigars.
Simmo.

Of course they'll go back to the 10% after the debt is written off. When they do I'll post an image on here of the Giant Pink Elephant that's in my back garden. LOL.

Hands up those that think the whole world in general is fast slipping into a big black hole from which there is no return ,We may as individuals be ok, but if you look at what is going on around us we are in a hell of a state (just my opinion).

As long as our tiny population (a bit over 23 million) continues to demand the best of everything i.e. roads, hospitals, NBN, water, power and Centrelink not to mention free camping area's in every rural town our taxes will continue to rise, someone has to pay.

I can hear the cries already, but not me, i paid taxes all my life, time I got something back.

We as a nation are living well beyond our means, the age of entitlement.

Why expect compensation? it's a tax to help pay the massive debt Australia has incurred over the years.

Check out the debt clock below, staggering.

Time for a little belt tightening from us all.

http://www.australiandebtclock.com.au/

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Halve the bludgers on disability payments and welfare .. What next ? 20% in 20 years time ? Trouble is we've sold everything off ..
Nothing left to sell...

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 Why not halve the pension as well and while your at it send all the Kiwi recipients back home that in itself would save billions

 

Kev

Santa said, " Let's hear exactly how you would go about paying off the national debt Kev "

I think it was last night on one of the daily after the news shows that it was quoted that, Politicians are costing 40 million Dollars per year in retirement benefits. It may not pay off the debt, but that would be a good starting point. Hockey alone is getting $160,000 / year, now that the tax payer has paid off his wife's million dollar mansion.

Simmo. 

Look at this way, add 15% to your now tax level and that's what you will lose out of your gross income 48cents +15 =63% now that's disgusting i9n anyone's world .

If we reduced the number of nothingness courses available at Uni's and made those wanting to do such courses pay up front each year and only fully fund those courses that are listed as a need for Australian Industry then the bill would come right down.

Any parent that thinks their child will be set for life with a BA really is delusional , if they don't go on to do at least a Masters then they may as well have left school in year 10.

Governments have increased the school leaving age as a means of hiding the true unemployment figures and industrial closures as did Labor when they made Uni entry open to all.

Ask any lecturer and they will tell you the system has been dumbed down to suit mass education and no longer strives to achieve excellence, BA's today are in real terms of employment opportunities the equivalent of the old intermediate certificate at enormous cost to the tax payer.

More waste is seen in NSW when Government can set aside $16Million to locate and track sharks when there has been less than 10 deaths in 20 years and then the Feds are spending $40 million on super for women in the workforce.

Don't start me of the cost of redundant pollies that is just dead money in anyone's terms and what $ that can be identified is only represents the tip of the iceberg

Aus-Kiwi wrote:

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Casualkev wrote:

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Aus-Kiwi wrote:

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Halve the bludgers on disability payments and welfare .. What next ? 20% in 20 years time ? Trouble is we've sold everything off ..
Nothing left to sell...

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 Why not halve the pension as well and while your at it send all the Kiwi recipients back home that in itself would save billions

 

Kev

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 If your talking about me ? I sold my dairy cows in NZ and bought a house here in 1980 and worked till last year ., I'm a self funded retiree .. I payed plenty of tax.. You don't count on the Kiwi's who retire up in Queensland .. Btw Kiwis can't get any welfare ..

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 Only if you're a fruit or a chook with a big bum...

Desert Dweller wrote:

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If it's paying for our ''baby boomer'' pension like they say , bring it on. We both turned 65 recently & a few days ago received our first age pension payment. Some-one's gotta' support us, we've been supporting the older generation while we were working, now it's our turn to be supported. If it means enlarging the GST so be it! Yes, we know that we'll be paying it too.

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 What about the self funded retirees? We've paid taxes all our working lives, supporting aged pensioners and the unemployed. Neither of us are entitled to age pension, why should we still be paying for others that didn't or couldn't put something away for latter years. I hadn't planned on retiring at my age at the moment, but have been out of work for 13 months, and I can't get a cent from the government in unemployment benefits. Sometimes I think you're better off just sitting on your bum and not bothering saving anything, just collect the dole, then go on the old age pension when you qualify.

I got my seniors card a few months back and sometimes get a small discount from participating shops, but the government is forking out for any of that. And I keep forgetting to use it most of the time

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Desert Dweller wrote:

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If it's paying for our ''baby boomer'' pension like they say , bring it on. We both turned 65 recently & a few days ago received our first age pension payment. Some-one's gotta' support us, we've been supporting the older generation while we were working, now it's our turn to be supported. If it means enlarging the GST so be it! Yes, we know that we'll be paying it too.

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 What about the self funded retirees? We've paid taxes all our working lives, supporting aged pensioners and the unemployed. Neither of us are entitled to age pension, why should we still be paying for others that didn't or couldn't put something away for latter years. I hadn't planned on retiring at my age at the moment, but have been out of work for 13 months, and I can't get a cent from the government in unemployment benefits. Sometimes I think you're better off just sitting on your bum and not bothering saving anything, just collect the dole, then go on the old age pension when you qualify.

I got my seniors card a few months back and sometimes get a small discount from participating shops, but the government is forking out for any of that. And I keep forgetting to use it most of the time

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 We retired at 60 & have been ''self funded retirees'' for the past 5 years. We're only getting a small ''part pension'', we've got too much Superannuation & too much money invested mate.

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Desert Dweller wrote:

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03_Troopy wrote:

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Desert Dweller wrote:

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If it's paying for our ''baby boomer'' pension like they say , bring it on. We both turned 65 recently & a few days ago received our first age pension payment. Some-one's gotta' support us, we've been supporting the older generation while we were working, now it's our turn to be supported. If it means enlarging the GST so be it! Yes, we know that we'll be paying it too.

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 What about the self funded retirees? We've paid taxes all our working lives, supporting aged pensioners and the unemployed. Neither of us are entitled to age pension, why should we still be paying for others that didn't or couldn't put something away for latter years. I hadn't planned on retiring at my age at the moment, but have been out of work for 13 months, and I can't get a cent from the government in unemployment benefits. Sometimes I think you're better off just sitting on your bum and not bothering saving anything, just collect the dole, then go on the old age pension when you qualify.

I got my seniors card a few months back and sometimes get a small discount from participating shops, but the government is forking out for any of that. And I keep forgetting to use it most of the time

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 We retired at 60 & have been ''self funded retirees'' for the past 5 years. We're only getting a small ''part pension'', we've got too much Superannuation & too much money invested mate.

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 Then that statement makes no sense. You receive a small "part pension" but are willing to pay extra GST to fund it and others

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 The part pension that we're receiving more than covers the proposed GST increase with plenty left over.

So, when was this age of affluence when we were all living beyond our means? I must have slept through that one. Unless you're talking about those that had bags of money anyway, and in most cases still have. Let them pay for it then.