justcruisin01 wrote:

 

So there you have it, straight from a former member.

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 Hardley straight from the alleged former member when its through someone else's hearsay.

 

Iza

Makes you wonder whether its a hate for the CMCA or the ideology , certainly CMCA was a Motorhome community but I understand the caravans are welcome now so why would this come forth , or is just a disgruntled ex employee.

Sounds a lot of crap to me I have had seven caravans a camper trailer and two motorhome and am a member of the cmca and have never heard it said 

Dragonfly1

Pete and Margret wrote ---   what a load of croc ?

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Peter if you are an active member of CMCA, i am sure you have followed the ''push'' To get more Caravanners to also join as associate members, as the CMCA has a new regime of members on the board, In this push the rules effecting associate members were lessoned to a degree allowing much more wide and varied participation in all area's [ except voting rights ] which is the reason i have not and will not join a club that discriminates, because of chosen type of rig ??

The debates that followed this push to allow caravanners more rights and freedom to have more participation in the club was met from some very clear and at times very rude and ignorant behaviour, by many of the Old School CMCA members, who did not want caravanners in their club at all, ?? I think maybe because of the fear that if Vanners did join the club in large numbers, even though the increase to membership fund would be huge and beneficial, the numbers may increase to a level that associate members would have a more powerful voice, both in numbers and $$$$ and this would lead to '' EQUAL RIGHTS ''  and there is probably  a degree of fact in that, !! as there would be around 4 -5 times more vanners out there than motorhomes, ?

The amount of Venom, [ from both sides ] that was displayed not only on the CMCA page but also on a range of other forums that was involved in the discussion of changing the rules and giving more rights to associate members clearly showed that Although it would be very beneficial to all that enjoy this wonderful lifestyle, and would greatly increase the Power of CMCA, and ACA to battle the Caravan Parks Associations fight against us, It was very clear that Unity would be a very rocky road, unless there was '' equal rights' and the old school CMCA members thought outside the square ??

The Issue of '' Fully Self Contained '' was a predominant point of argument put forward in these heated forum debates by many of the CMCA members, to the degree that it was clearly a planned form of attack, to use against caravanners which in the past many of them were not fully self contained, / However in the past many Motorhomes were also NOT fully self contained, Many vans now are also equipped with grey water holding tanks and many more are also installing them, So that may be one orchestrated and planned plan of attack that some motorhomers will no longer be able to use, 

In short i wrote this little piece to clear the point of view that Animosity between SOME members of CMCA towards Caravanners is very active indeed, ? If in doubt go to the forums and read the posts, -- Never the twain shall meet --

The real problem is this sort of third hand drivel.
Is this a caravan forum or a motorhome forum?
The answer is neither and this rubbish (and those who seek to spread it) should not be allowed here, in my view, because it IS the problem.

Cheers,
Peter

dazren wrote:

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 Peter if you would like me to post a link or two to the Venomous attitude so as your get it first hand, i will be happy to oblige, 

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Not interested in perpetuating crap, or the people who want to.

 

Cheers,

Peter 

Weevil wrote:

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When I was a member of CMCA, there were frequent bun fights on their forum about the way the group was run and criticising of the CMCA board (those for and against).  It got so bad that the board closed the forum down.   Some members went to other forums and I think one even formed their own independent forum for motorhome owners.   

 

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How is any of that relevant?

Fact is, some of those previous CMCA forum members are now on the CMCA board which intends to reopen the CMCA forum again shortly.

 

Cheers,

Peter 

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:

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Weevil wrote:

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When I was a member of CMCA, there were frequent bun fights on their forum about the way the group was run and criticising of the CMCA board (those for and against).  It got so bad that the board closed the forum down.   Some members went to other forums and I think one even formed their own independent forum for motorhome owners.   

 

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How is any of that relevant?

Fact is, some of those previous CMCA forum members are now on the CMCA board which intends to reopen the CMCA forum again shortly.

 

Cheers,

Peter 

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I am just pointing out that this subject regards caravans is not new and a very thorny issue and some of the forum bunfights were about caravan club membership and for awhile there it was a very unhappy club, some even resigning from the board over their infighting on a number of issues, this among them.   I am glad they have finally got around to looking at starting their forum again I hope they have better luck this time round, I imagine it will be strictly monitored to ensure the same thing does not happen again.

I think the main thing is that the club was started primarily for motorhomes and campervans.   There are plenty of other clubs around for caravans and camper trailers and some allow mixed membership of all types of RV, so there are plenty of options around.    In the past I have belonged to caravan clubs that were for specific types of caravans or camper trailers, if you didn't have that type of RV (eg; sold yours) then you had to leave the club despite making many friends over the years (I still have friends from those same clubs I keep in social contact with).   I have been in that situation myself.   There are plenty of options around including generic clubs with full membership rights.. 

What I am saying is the CMCA has the right to maintain their basic membership charter which ever way they choose to do it hardly a new thing, many clubs do the same.   My BIL has been a member of the CMCA for a very long time and has never been to a rally, he joined because of the insurance benefits (he has a converted bus) and the magazine which many enjoy. 

Are you a board member at CMCA Peter?  I know you have been a member for a very long time so would have seen a lot of club history over time as well.

Vic - Ex CMCA Member W72288  (ps; I left the club as I no longer qualified for membership after I sold my campervan, not for any personal reasons).

 

-- Edited by Weevil on Friday 25th of September 2015 08:08:21 AM

Sorry but I don't give a S--- if you have a motorhome or caravan,the main thing is to stay safe and have fun and don't forget happy hour
Take Care Rod

PeterD wrote:

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justcruisin01 wrote:

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This person was a motor home owner, who resigned his position, canceled his membership & left; then bought a caravan.

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 How long ago did he bail out of CMCA? In the latter years I believe that they have eased the caravan haters out of the positions of influence.

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 Could not have been too long back as he sold the motor home a is driving a late model jeep with a Avan:only a few mths old.

Hi all,
Just a friendly reminder to please keep posts respectful.  Although we welcome robust discussion, please ensure that your post is directed towards the issue at hand, not at the member that you disagree with. 

Cruising Cruze wrote:

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Hi JC

The hatred is there for sure
that mob pi..ed me off the first time we went out with our caravan
How did we dare to turn up at their weekend , it was only for motor homes you don't belong here we were told
To us it was a honest mistake we had to be next door at the caravan park and took the wrong entry
from that day I swore that we never be a member of that pac of d.ckheads
Maybe they do a lot of good but in the meantime there member make sure if you don't have a motor home you don't belong and no way you can share a weekend with them
I used to be a member for nearly twenty years of a motor bike club and we went out of our way get new members

Cheers John

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-- Edited by Cruising Cruze on Friday 25th of September 2015 12:46:25 AM

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Years ago in the NT they (CMCA) had an "event" at an old WW2 airstrip,,,,NO ONE ELSE WAS WELCOME,,, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE. Even driving close with 4X4 only and no van saw them wave us off.

So take that as first hand knowledge.

-- Edited by Baz421 on Friday 25th of September 2015 03:55:33 PM

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:

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What a lot of croc.

Cheers,
Peter

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I'd be curious to know how you ascertained that Peter? 

Weevil wrote:

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Are you a board member at CMCA Peter?  I know you have been a member for a very long time so would have seen a lot of club history over time as well.

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 No I am not a board member.

The CMCA is the largest and most successful RV club in Australia. It is that because it has provided value for its campervan and motor homing members (and the RV community at large, something that it has never been obliged to do) over the years.

In the next few years I expect there will be many new initiatives for the Members too. Watch this space.

Anyone can be a member, but membership is not 'compulsory' and those who don't like some aspects of how it is run are free to join one of the other many choices available to them.

 

Cheers,

Peter