Brown snake in Camp

msg · Guru

Brown snake in Camp

Dougwe · Chief one feather

Not small either Mel.

I think you will be forgiven due to the dogs around.

Phil C · Guru

Take it easy Mel, they are bad beasies, best to ignore or introduce them to Mr Shovel or Mrs 7 iron

Be good xx

Desert Dweller · Guru

You're in their territory, respect them but by all means avoid them. Killing them is illegal. We'd love to kill yapping dogs sometimes as they detract from our camping experience. LOL.

Phil C · Guru

Desert Dweller wrote:
You're in their territory, respect them but by all means avoid them. Killing them is illegal. We'd love to kill yapping dogs sometimes as they detract from our camping experience. LOL.

OMG my bad. I guess its about survival, I saw a DVD with Mr Grey Nomad 101 standing very still near this ginormus brownie. I guess if it was me Im not sure how I would respond. Saw one on our golf course a few years back, I thing he was more afraid than us.

I had no idea it was illegal to send them off.

Cheers

-- Edited by Phil C on Saturday 19th of September 2015 07:55:04 PM

msg · Guru

Well it was lucky they were yapping. By the photo, it was attempting to go into the living quarters and that is my territory. Besides, you can kill them if they are endangering life. We are 80ks from the nearest town and doctor and a snake catcher is a bit of a rarity. When it is a choice between a yappy dog and a snake, give me a dog anytime.

jules47 · The Happy Helper

How lucky for you guys to catch it! I would have sitting on the roof of your van!! We are in Port Augutta at the moment.

Phil C · Guru

Ill drink to that too Mel...

msg · Guru

Yes Jules, but for the yappy dogs it would have been inside.

Travel safely. Love to you and Billeeeeeee!

OMD · Senior Member

U should be very careful about how u word it's arrr whats the word removeal of the said creature. Only going on past exsperance of my own. If u follow. But other wise glad it ended well.

sufil · Guru

We relocate them!! They may (or may not) have had an altercation with the shovel prior to relocation though.

OMD · Senior Member

that's the one I was trying to think of. Relocate

Weevil · Guru

Here's a photo of a tiger snake that Yeoeleven took going into the shower at Parry's Beach, WA;

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Chucker · Veteran Member

Killing Snakes in there environment . Killing Sharks in there environment . WHY.. WHY...

Phillipn · Guru

Chucker wrote:
Killing Snakes in there environment . Killing Sharks in there environment . WHY.. WHY...

My property is my environment, snakes are sedated and relocated.

Wizardofoz · Guru

jules47 wrote:
How lucky for you guys to catch it! I would have sitting on the roof of your van!! We are in Port Augutta at the moment.

How is Port Augusta at the moment? I will be there in 5 days time and am not looking forward to the cooler weather as I am currently in Alice Springs.

-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Sunday 20th of September 2015 07:36:05 AM

sandsmere · Guru

In that situation you did the right thing msq.

Handy things those shovels. smile

Possum3 · Guru

They aren't protected - I've always found the bullets go right though them.

Hendo · Guru

Get bitten by one and see how long you last, you will want to be bloody close to medical help. If not the best you can do is put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye!!

Weevil · Guru

Hendo wrote:
Get bitten by one and see how long you last, you will want to be bloody close to medical help. If not the best you can do is put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye!!

Weevil · Guru

Dugite (related to brown snake) alongside path outside caravan park at Denmark, WA.

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WobblyNut · Senior Member

th stats 20 odd yrs ago .

92% of people who were bitten by snakes . Were "trying" to kill the snake.

living in th bush on a river with 4 creeks running through my property,

I look after my Red belly blacks , as they eat all th baby browns.

I reckon those stats Would still be close to th 90's

msg · Guru

I didn't write this to discuss the right & wrongs of relocating snakes. It was just a note telling of an incident that happened in my travels. After growing up on a farm I have a dislike to finding deadly snakes in my cupboards and they have to be dealt with. Hendo is right. We are actually 170ks from a doctor and it takes 2hrs to get out of the bush and onto the black top and then another 1 1/2 hrs to town. No chance if you get bitten. Inexperienced people fooling around with snakes will get bitten.

-- Edited by msg on Monday 21st of September 2015 08:16:03 AM

Weevil · Guru

Protected or not, sometimes common sense and necessity dictate the actions to take, with yours and other safety in mind.

Once I was a caretaker of a camping ground with lots of children around, there was a snake in the ladies shower cubicles who did not appear to be moving on (bear in mind that children were coming and going to the toilets in there also). With my boss Ranger's blessing who was well aware of them being protected, I was told to despatch it for the safety of the campers, which I did.

It was a long way from suburbia in a country area, and no such thing as snake catchers around, riskier to try to catch and re-locate it and as said, there was an urgency to do something because of children using the area as well as adults.

Rock · Veteran Member

Yes Jack Same here. Live on 2 creeks. The old timers say that for every snake your dog identifies coming onto your property, half a dozen others got thru unsighted. The old timers also love the Red Bellied Blacks. If you have a red bellied black, your chances of having browns are vastly reduced. I live and let live. I've been chased, struck at and scared witless. But Spiders? I am terrified of them!

jules47 · The Happy Helper

Wizardofoz wrote:
jules47 wrote:
How lucky for you guys to catch it! I would have sitting on the roof of your van!! We are in Port Augutta at the moment.
How is Port Augusta at the moment? I will be there in 5 days time and am not looking forward to the cooler weather as I am currently in Alice Springs.

-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Sunday 20th of September 2015 07:36:05 AM

Port Augusta was blowing a gale today, eased off a bit now, hope stopped tomorrow. It started blowing o Sunday late afternoon - we were caught short, in shorts and t shirts, having been mid 20's earlier in the day. We are staying at the motorhome park,

Sheba · Guru

msg wrote:
   I know, Sheba, but having it around camp was a very real danger to the four dogs and us.
So just a timely reminder they are on the move, so be careful.
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Don't worry Mel. I've had to kill a few when necessary. There are times when commonsense has to prevail. Prefer to re-locate Pythons .
Don't believe in killing any Snake just for the sake of it though.
msq and Wobblynut are both right.   Usually, it's in-experienced people who are trying to kill Venomous Snakes, who get bitten.
Cheers,
Sheba.

msg · Guru

Thanks Sheba. Hope you are feeling better.

dorian · Guru

I'm red-green colourblind, so all snakes are potentially deadly, as I see them.

Would you kill a brown snake?
www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2011/11/21/3372026.htm

Each year in Australia there are around 200 cases where people require antivenom, and the number is rising.

"The best thing people can do is educate themselves," Liz [senior curator from the Australian Reptile Park] says.

She says while some Australian snakes have highly toxic venom, they are more defensive than aggressive and usually bite only if they feel threatened.

"You startle them, or you get in their way or you try to hurt them and they bite back," she says.

"But most of the time if you just leave them be or try and stand still and get out of their way, they'll go the other way."

Liz acknowledges that the common or eastern brown, one of our most feared snakes, is a slightly different customer.

"That's because they do stand their ground a little bit more, they're obviously one of our most dangerous species of snakes in Australia and they're also found right along the east coast," she says.

The browns happily live in suburban areas, where they feed on rodents.

Weevil · Guru

Weevil wrote:
Dugite (related to brown snake) alongside path outside caravan park at Denmark, WA.

This one was not moving anywhere when I noticed it. It was a Mexican stand off for awhile, me standing still and watching it and it watching me. In the end I moved as far as I could to the far edge of the path and very slowly moved past it. After I had gone past it I looked back and the snake slithered off into the grass.