Thanks, Vic. I'm freezing in Busselton tonight but will check my (two, same) stoves when I get home tomorrow.
I hope this does not mean that the nanny state will ban the sale of the canisters, because I will keep using my stoves.
What really needs to be banned is 20-inch frying pans used on the stoves.
What ever happened to common sense?
When I bought my stove, the FIRST thought I had was : DO NOT use a wide saucepan/frying pan on this stove because it will overheat the canister and cause an explosion.
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You are so right Tony. What I dont understand is, the literature that came with both of my stoves clearly describes in pictures and text that you should not use oversized pans on them. So why do we need to legislated against? The DHs that ignore the advise will do so whatever the circumstance.
It is not just using oversize pans/pots, some have faulty canister connections.
A member on this site (Gerty I think) also reported an explosion of spare gas canister cans caused by them rubbing together in transit, I looked for the thread/post but couldn't find it.
See also this warning on some stoves fitted to Jayco vans, also on the link;
Thetford Triplex Plus Oven/Grill Cooker
Thetford Triplex Plus cookers were fitted into Jayco vans nationally.
Identification
Selected Jayco chassis numbers between R81942 up to S81151.
Safety risks
The gas control valve may be misaligned and the valve may stick open. If the defect is present there is a risk of gas building up into the appliance when not lit and this may lead to a possible explosion within the oven.
interesting that the WA govt has identified nearly every manufacturer (like Primus) of this type of product that youd buy from Bunnings, Marsters, Annaconda, BCF etc - back to gathering twigs and dry leaves together and rubbing sticks to create fire (matches will be outlawed soon as dangerous as they may flare up when struck and cigarette lighters may combust or explode in your pocket or hot vehicle glovebox.......no....wait.....the Fire Service will ban the use of fires for cooking as it may cause a major fire!!
Weevil, you were quite right in bringing this to everyones attention so that people can make an informed decision about what to do, but is it that these products are now being made cheaper and therefore putting us at danger, or is this another breast feeding exercise by our Nanny govts??
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I cant believe an identified safety hazard with a gas appliance is being discussed in this manner, it only takes a single incident to cause loss of property or life.
"Informed decision" more like poor decision.
Guess there are always those who reckon they know better
As a matter of interest, was in a camping store in Adelaide a couple of days back, they had these gas canisters on sale for about $5 for a six pack, getting rid of em while they still can I guess.
-- Edited by Santa on Monday 23rd of March 2015 06:03:44 PM
In another thread this topic was discussed and I thought it was the cooker itself not the actual canisters? Although I understand if a canister is leaking and two rub together that could cause a big problem also. However, If I am correct and I stand corrected, it is the cooker in this case?
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From what is written Doug, it is the canister that explodes, but it seem from poor fitting or connection or from heat reflected down on the canisters by oversize cooking utensils.
My understand of the size of the cooking utensils is they should not exceed the size of the trivet.
Could you post a link to the other thread here please as I couldn't find it. I think on there Gerty talks about spare canisters exploding by rubbing together in transit, but that is another matter.
It does seem strange Bruce & Bev that after many years of use of this product it is now being banned, I wonder if it is because previous manufacturers made a safer product and cheaper models are causing the problem?
No worries, as I couldn't find it I thought it important enough to post again, I thought I may have seen a similar post on another forum and not here when I couldn't find it.
I may add it was a WA list that hadn't been posted before and the SA link posted before (but I could not locate it here) did not mention models etc and the link I posted also referred to Thetford Stoves in Jayco's which had not been posted previously.
The main thing is I made an effort to locate any previous posts without success before I posted mine, so don't feel I need to apologise for that.
weevil - no need or expectation from most others that you should apologise for this post - it was an important issue and didn't hurt or injury any horses, dogs or other animals in making it (my apologises to the movie companies for stealing one of their movie trailers lol)
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Well thanks for that Bruce & Bev, funny when I was talking to the Bunnings bloke today, he quoted many people who had been using these cookers with no problems, not to say there couldn't be and some have had problems (and a death) but he was a little mystified as to why others hadn't had problems that he knew of.
Best to be safe then sorry though.
On the canisters I had there is a warning not to store in the boot of a vehicle, considering the heat build up in a parked vehicle in the open this is not surprising though, not sure how others go when travelling with them inside their vehicles, unless they are stored in a trailer etc.
-- Edited by Weevil on Tuesday 24th of March 2015 08:39:09 PM
OK, I bought a dozen of the CRV canisters today from BigW ($14), having found that my model Spinifex brand cookers were not on the list.
I also noticed that when you open the canister compartment, there is a clear, easy to read warning which says NOT to use utensils more than 25cm diameter. Seems clear to me.
As for the canisters rubbing together, I wrap mine in that rubber mesh stuff you can get to stop things moving on caravan benches. Old stubby holders are also handy.
Cheers, Tony
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BCF have the single burners in their latest catalogue (Primus brand) for $19.99 and Supercheap have single burner stoves for $13.80 - one of the other store had dual burner stoves for $39.99.
This is in Townsville and the adverts are current.
BCF have the single burners in their latest catalogue (Primus brand) for $19.99 and Supercheap have single burner stoves for $13.80 - one of the other store had dual burner stoves for $39.99. This is in Townsville and the adverts are current.
Makes you wonder what is going on Denis, either they are a bit slow removing them or the ones they have meet and are certified to Oz standards ? The canisters seem to be in a different category (eg; Bunnings & KMart not selling the stoves but selling the canisters which I understand can be used in other gas items.
Vic - it's possible the Primus single burner stoves are not banned as they have a bright stainless steel lid over the gas bottle which should reflect heat unlike the normal black cover. Also the twin burner ones may not have had a 'reported' incident as they are not as common.
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