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URGENT INFORMATION PLEASE


Howdy all,

I apologise for putting this request in "General" but it is not really a Techie question.

As some of you know I am looking at replacing the Avan (not the twins though) with something a little bigger and not have to put anything up or down, around 18' or 19'6" with a ensuite.

I have set myself a budget and very interested in a "Gold Star" CV as it is within my budget, new. They are direct from the manufacturer?  in Adelaide. I am about to make a quick dash from Melbourne by plane and back in one day to check them out.

I have heard something today about them that worries me a little in the quality area, MAYBE.

My Question is, has any one heard of "Gold Star" does anyone have one or know someone that has one and what are they like please.

Just thought I'd put it there. 



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whats your budget?


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ok just reading that their starting price is $37,000 for an 18 footer..

 

but then it doesn't have rooftop AC

 

I purchased our Jayco 16.5 footer with full ensuite, AC, Awning, 90watt Solar panel with 100ha battery and regulator, Antenna with booster, Drop Jacks

it has double glazed windows and sky lights.. the insulation is excellent !!

 

I paid $38,990 for it but I sold my tradein myself so they gave me another $1000 off which made it a flat $38,000

 

why would you go anywhere else?

 

also look at the chassis size.. our Jayco runs a 5 inch where other manufacturers only run a 4" for the same sized van...



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one last thing

I also support Australian businesses and workers when I can...

if the product is good or better i'll pay a little bit more...

like food products.. i'll only ever buy Australian vegies and fruit..

canned products like chopped tomatoes.. I support the Ardmona business which employs Australian workers...

to do otherwise would be "UnAustralian"

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Hi Dougwe

We went for a Jayco Starcraft 20 footer, has all the trimmings etc and cost $54000 drive away. We had a few small issues but all is well. I was told by a number of caravan makers that Jayco built to a price, fair enough, but we have all the brand name appliances (maybe sphere is out there) and the caravan works a treat.

Now I have made some significant changes to the electrical and put a grey water tank on board, but it still trundles along behind my tug. Tare of mine 2039KGs but I got 2 batts and solar that added extra weight.

Ive never heard of Gold Star, but as previously mentioned Australian made as is the Jayco.

Good luck mate, can be a nightmare if you dont get the research right.

Safe travels

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Don't know anything about them Doug, but just adding to another comment, make sure you have aircon in the model or fitted (I prefer split systems myself rather than rooftop, but just my choice) as you will be living in it full time.

I know you mostly do free camps, but in the heat of full summer you may decide to stay at a CP for some reason and it is something worth having for when needed.

Good luck with your search, I hope someone can give you feedback on the one you want.

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Funny you should mention them, they are on our short list too...

The metal framed composite panel design is a winner.

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G/Day Doug,

Mate Wendy and I travel mostly  on the road less traveled EG rough dirt roads stock routs and desert roads, hence the reason we are have an off road van built to our specification,

The only thing I have heard regarding The Gold Star was  bit of trouble with some cupboards and the doors coming loose one had the rear bar with spare,.

tyre fracture and fall off on the gibb river road. 

If you are going to have a look ask them to show you the quality of the cabinetry, Chipboard and MDF WILL fail I have seen so many so called off road vans with doors made of these two timbers that have had them fall off.

 I have been researching vans for the last 3-4 years to decide on a replacement for our currant donga, and Wendy and I decided on the Roadstar Voyager because of the build quality and the fact that all their cabinetry is 100% marine ply laminated on both sides. During my research I visited 6 different factories to see how each van was built and Gold Star was one of them, they seemed to be fairly we built but, even though I use Alloy to build all the product's I sell in my business I chose a timber frame as I believe the alloy frame may have been a bit rigid for the type of driving we do, in saying that there is nothing wrong with the framework on the Gold Star, and if you do mostly blacktop or good quality dirt roads I can't see a issue, mate all comes down to budget and personal preference, Hope This helps mate.biggrin

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Thanks everyone so far but keep 'em coming PLEASE.

I don't mind saying that my budget is $50,000 but I don't want to say what I have heard on the open forum.

I wasn't going to ask about the vans here but after a couple of threads that have reared they ugly heads in resent days I thought I might try and start to get back to some real stuff and what this forum is all about and best at.

As I said, keep 'em coming.

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you may want to think about warranty as well...

Adelaide is a long way away...

after our trip to Cains and back going around outback QLD and on the worst sealed roads I've seen... some of our draw fronts came off... there was a couple of little things that I needed done.. the TV areal stopped working on the last day but as I came back passed Jayco Geelong I dropped in and they fixed everything for nothing straight away so that I could keep coming home on that day...

not trying to sell Jayco but we also like the Airline style overhead cupboards... no ledges to catch dust...

I always beat them down on price too.. and if they don't i'll walk unless they deal with me a little at least..

I got a 4K better deal with Jayco Geelong than I did with Ballarat Jayco

"THe Hats" rid sounds sweet.. must cost a fortune!!

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Hi Doug I found this

 

 

Crazy prices for Chinese vans

 

New Chinese-built caravans target locally-built models with aggressive, sub-$40K pricing

 

Another range of Chinese-built caravans has hit the market in Australia, directly targetting established local players with the marketing slogan outstanding quality at crazy prices.

On show for the first time at the South Australian Caravan & Camping Expo, the new Goldstar RV range is also being promoted as Australias best value ensuite caravan with starting prices for full-sized ensuite vans all under $40,000.

The caravans are built by South Australia-based Liberty Group, which has several factories in China that produce a range of industrial products including manufactured housing and semi-trailers as well as caravans and camper trailers.

The vans are available with single or tandem axles, in body sizes ranging from 18 to 21ft and Tare weights from 1750 to 2000kg.

All feature familiar layouts including walk-around double beds, dinette/lounge, kitchen and full width rear ensuite, with prices kicking off from $36,990 for the single-axle 18ft ensuite model.

Standard features include double glazed windows, 12/240V outlets, two freshwater tanks, leather/fabric lounge trim, four-burner cooktop with oven and microwave, stone look bench tops, large two-door fridge/freezer, LED lighting and 100ah deep cycle battery.

For an additional $1980, buyers can also get a roof-top air-con, two 100W solar panels fitted, roll-out awning and second 100aH battery.

Most major components including the chassis, body and furniture are manufactured in-house, with FRP (fibre-reinforced plastic) composite panels reinforced with RHS aluminium tubing, used for the walls and roof. The caravans are delivered fully built, with some final assembly in Australia.

Goldstar RV general manager Robbie Gianfrotta (formerly general manager at South Australian dealer Dave Benson Caravans), said the Chinese-built vans offer better value than similarly-equipped, Australian-manufactured vans thanks to efficient manufacturing processes and the fitment of cheaper, generic appliances.

Also keeping prices down is a business model that operates on minimal margins and relies on volume for profits.

We can build 300 a year with 23 men and automotive procedures, he said.

A factory-direct approach also helps reduce the expense of middle men including dealers, but means buyers have to pick up their van at the South Australian headquarters.

The caravans are also sold in other markets including Kuwait, South Africa, and the UK, with the company claiming 100 per cent compliance in whatever country they are sold.

See the Goldstar RV website for more.




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Mmmm, something happened to the size of the thread, bugga.

That's the beast John.

You seemed to have found out a little more than me but I have to try to beat Uncle Al in getting up in the morning or I'm done for.

Am I just being dazelled by the looks? Or is it actually worth a day trip by plane at the cost of $100 return to take a closer gander.

Ideas all you knowledgable experienced caravaners out there. Please.

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Hi Dougwe,  if you do go, would appreciate you letting us all know what you think of them. I am interested. cheers. rocket



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Hi Mate,

Haven't been doing much posting lately for a couple of reasons but mostly becoz we have been busy with our current project (The Coaster) now it is almost finished just the fiddly bits to go.

 

I would just like to add my weight to the comments about the material the interior is constructed from...

 

DO NOT BUY A VAN THAT HAS CHIPBOARD OR MDF IN IT.

 

All of our fitouts are done with timber and aluminum and we never have any problems with them..



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My suggestion is to go and see for your self.

You have the desire to look seriously so the best way is to be able to touch and push etc.

If you don't you will always have that doubt and in the scheme of things $100 is not much. Have a ride on the O-bahn bus etc and treat it as a day out.

Then do your research look around at the options, pull the doors open check underneath.

Check for bad welds, pipes going up and down (you need the water to drain properly) check the distance from tow ball to wheels and then the rear to see if you can legally add bins etc at rear if you want to later. I prefer the new compound materials for builds but not many commercial companies use as far as I know. MBF etc is heavy and very suspect to moisture as well as it will fracture down the grain of the pieces.

Check the allowed extra weight you can add for personal stuff and add the weight of solar and batteries into this.

I am sure the caravan people will add many more but just a start.

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Gee Brian, Dougwe's Day Out. Maybe I should film the day. Sounds like it could be a movie.

Thanks yet again everyone for the valuable input so far, keep it coming please.

Chricky and someone wanted to change the way this forum operates, WHY?

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oldbobsbus wrote:

Hi Mate,

Haven't been doing much posting lately for a couple of reasons but mostly becoz we have been busy with our current project (The Coaster) now it is almost finished just the fiddly bits to go.

 

I would just like to add my weight to the comments about the material the interior is constructed from...

 

DO NOT BUY A VAN THAT HAS CHIPBOARD OR MDF IN IT.

 

All of our fitouts are done with timber and aluminum and we never have any problems with them..


 

Must be starting to like liveable now Bob. Well done. It will be a good buy for someone.  



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MATE you do NOT want a van that looks nice you want to be able to use it for what you want to do, now IMHO I would be thinking WARRANTY WARRANTY WARRANTY especially if you are up in Townsville, what happens then? can you take it to get repaired by another van supplier and the one in Adelaide pays under warranty? that is a question I would want an answer to from the guys at Gold Star and I would want it in writing.

not trying to put you off but that is one area you should be looking at.

hope you find what you and the twins are looking for. 



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Hi Doug,
Seems a good deal and worth a look, I would definitely look at the payload ie a 21ft van with a 2000kg Tare, I would be looking an ATM of 2600Kg at least which will come down of course if you put air con, diesel air heater and sola etc and a second spare tyre and maybe a second 9kg gas bottle on the front. And is all this on a 4 inch chassis to get the lower tare weight? Or comes with a 5 or 6inch chassis

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Mate not trying to influence your decision but these are a great van one of there vans won the van of the year.

this is a great little van and all aussie owned and built in house, in Melbourne.

http://roadstar.com.au/caravans/little-rippa

http://roadstar.com.au/caravans/little-rippa-adventurer

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I would like to know how good there service & Warranty is first Doug
Did not came across one yet
I think you should try to find out from people that own one

All the best mate


Cheers John

 

Ps  would a split aircon unit to a be lot cheaper and better ?



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Cruising Cruze wrote:

I would like to know how good there service & Warranty is first Doug
Did not came across one yet
I think you should try to find out from people that own one

All the best mate


Cheers John

 

Ps  would a split aircon unit to a be lot cheaper and better ?



-- Edited by Cruising Cruze on Wednesday 27th of August 2014 01:58:35 PM


 when you say people that own one, I would not take a list from the dealer as that will only contain satisfied owners, you need a cross section of owners, people you meet on the road for example, but that takes time to compile 



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I have found out that the Warranty is 12 months and honoured Australia wide. You can go to any repairer and Gold Star will pick up the tab. It is writing.

I have decided to fly to Adelaide for a day trip only in a couple of weeks and take a very good look and have a lengthy chat to them. Maybe keep the cheque book under lock minus the key.

Don't know if I don't go.

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Dougwe wrote:

I have found out that the Warranty is 12 months and honoured Australia wide. You can go to any repairer and Gold Star will pick up the tab. It is writing.

I have decided to fly to Adelaide for a day trip only in a couple of weeks and take a very good look and have a lengthy chat to them. Maybe keep the cheque book under lock minus the key.

Don't know if I don't go.


 you do need to shop around b4 spending that amount of cash, BTW if you are paying cash (full price) make sure you ask for their cash price, if they do not have one walk away.

Wish you well with whatever you get mate. 

Did you get my test pic via email?biggrin

 



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Yes biggrin  Might have to improve image quality a bit though mate. Maybe a different angle too. Or should that b Angel biggrin



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Dougwe wrote:

Yes biggrin  Might have to improve image quality a bit though mate. Maybe a different angle too. Or should that b Angel biggrin


 do you mean it needs more work? sorry for the OT but Vic made me do it biggrin



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does any one know if JAYCO are chinese  and assembled in AUS 



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TAJ wrote:

does any one know if JAYCO are chinese  and assembled in AUS 


As far as I know Taj, they made in Australia. 

The public are welcome to tour their Dandenong factory to see them being made, see;

http://www.jayco.com.au/about-us/our-company/ 

With another manufacturer of Ecotourer Camper Trailers I believe the fibreglass bodies and moulded furniture are made in China, shipped to Oz and finished off here.   Originally they were totally made in Oz.  



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I would not mind to have a look

He Doug any spare tickets for flying to Adelaidebiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

( I need one from Hervey Bay btw )

 

Cheers John



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Doug make sure if its got aircon, that's its a Split system...

Far more Efficient..

RE the Weight Labels Make sure that you fill the Water Tank's.. all of them Get it Remeasured and Have the Weight Label Adjusted so you have the Correct Weight...
Fill the Fridge Full of Water Bottle's as well..

With the crap that is happening in QLD and other place Better to make sure its all up to standard before you drive out the gate...

Do NOT relie on the label they have before you drive it off and pay the last payment...

Do NOT get caught short..


Check everything else the others have asked for..

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