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Battery Problem


Hello everyone,

Looking for some advice and help.

We had a problem the amp meter on our van. The problem started when we run the battery flat with out the mains on ( inadvertently left the fridge running!). We hooked the mains up and the battery was charging at 25 amps, discovered smoke coming out of the boot after 5 minutes turned it off, when we took it the  repair people and they found the amp gauge had shorted out on the panel behind which was repaired under warranty. Now without the mains on and the cut off switch set at 12 volts after 2 weeks the battery voltage loses about 1 volt and the cut out switch activates. I can adjust the switch to 11 volts and the lights work.  The battery is still losing voltage over time with everything switched off does that mean we have a problem or is this normal. Hoping you can help us.

Judes and Bazz



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HI

Loosing voltage over that period would indicate:

[a]You have a current leakage  that shoulds show up with a millampmeter in circuit 

OR

the battery coped a lacing with the SHORT circuit & now has an internal short 

 Best disconnect the battery from ALL except the charger put it through a FULL charge cycle  Switch off  or disconnect charger [best] Let the battery stand for a few days {at least]

then check voltage 

If it has dropped below 12.5/12.6 V  let it stand a few more days

IF it contiues to loose voltage it has developed an internal short.  Time to scrap it

 

PeterQ



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Judes and Bazz wrote:

Hello everyone,

Looking for some advice and help.

We had a problem the amp meter on our van. The problem started when we run the battery flat with out the mains on ( inadvertently left the fridge running!). We hooked the mains up and the battery was charging at 25 amps, discovered smoke coming out of the boot after 5 minutes turned it off, when we took it the  repair people and they found the amp gauge had shorted out on the panel behind which was repaired under warranty. Now without the mains on and the cut off switch set at 12 volts after 2 weeks the battery voltage loses about 1 volt and the cut out switch activates. I can adjust the switch to 11 volts and the lights work.  The battery is still losing voltage over time with everything switched off does that mean we have a problem or is this normal. Hoping you can help us.

Judes and Bazz


Doesn't sound normal to me. Need a bit of info.

What ah battery(s) and is it agm?

What voltage was it when fully charged? 

Also how do you know you have everthing switched off and battery drains?

Do you have a master cut out switch for battery ie one swicht cuts off all power? 

This will help us all in thinking of solutions.

 



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Thanks for your reply Peter Q

This is a new battery, the fully charged volts was 12.6 and the cut out master switch was set at 12 volts.

Will try your suggestion and get back to you with the results.

Thanks for your help

Judes and Bazzblankstare



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Hello Guru

Thanks for your reply

Not sure of the brand of battery will look tomorrow it is a deep cycle battery.

12.6 voltage fully charged.

Very sure everything is switched off 

Yes we do have a  master cut out switch but it doesnt work when I have the battery saver on

Hope that helps

Regards 

Judes and Bazzhmm



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Judes and Bazz wrote:

Hello Guru

Thanks for your reply

Not sure of the brand of battery will look tomorrow it is a deep cycle battery.

12.6 voltage fully charged.

Very sure everything is switched off 

Yes we do have a  master cut out switch but it doesnt work when I have the battery saver on

Hope that helps

Regards 

Judes and Bazzhmm


Well sounds like battery may be stuffed after full discharge or you still have something ON. AGM battery should not loose that voltage in such a short time.

Oldtrack 123 is on the trail also and he's clued up on these things.

 



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Check the battery hasn't 'boiled'. Sometimes you will find that two or more cells have moved (probably from bumps/potholes) and are touching one another.
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Just a side Note on the Battery..

with a LA[Lead Acid] type Battery.. fully charged is some thing Like 13.X volt's.. Not 12.6v to me that is an indication that the battery is NOT fully charged...

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SnowT wrote:

Just a side Note on the Battery..

with a LA[Lead Acid] type Battery.. fully charged is some thing Like 13.X volt's.. Not 12.6v to me that is an indication that the battery is NOT fully charged...

Juergen



 

 

Hi Juergen

Sorry, but I have to disagree [smack youbiggrin]

A fully charged lead acid battery will have a standing voltage[ after several hours not being charged or discharged] of 12.6<12.7V depending  on battery temp, 

13.2<13.8v is the floating voltage range for flooded wet cell LAs !& such a reading means very litle .

Even a battery with a shorted cell can show THAT voltage while on a  charger.

PeterQ

 

 

 

 



-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Sunday 29th of June 2014 10:22:28 PM

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Really the only way to check a wet Lead Acid is the SG (specific gravity) terminal voltage, standing voltage etc rely on way too many variables (temp of battery, ambient temp etc.

Get a hydrometer, remove the caps and see if one cell is down..

Fully charged should read around 1300.

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