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how do you guys keep petrol safe for generator


it may not be a stupid question for safety reasons and the law, would you need a fire proof bunker for it & generator in MH  



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Where ever you put it, Make sure the fumes can escape easily, Out side some where, preferably,


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I once chained a jerry can up to a nearby tree because the little one didn't want it under the van or in the car.



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so you would put it on the back of MH haven't had the right answer yet it has to be legal guys

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In another life I used to tow a race car around and made up a beam to sit jerry cans along the front of the trailer. Would never carry them in the car or at the back of the trailer.
I see your dilemma in a MH where the hell would you carry them? Too vulnerable hanging on the rear bar I would think and not the sort of thing you want in the cabin with you either.
How about a roof rack?



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I have a dedicated storage on the side of out MH for fuel and oil, Ohhhhhh and the jack and wheelbrace and any other thing I can fit in like the wheel chocks..



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hi cloak . had a look on internet in SA you cant hang it on the back , it seems you have to have a proper sealed bunker with a vent outside, maybe the roof rack is the only way.

in MH you generally have external storage but its under the bed not good.

as you said, where the hell would you carry them

has any body got a sealed bunker to stop fumes going inside with vent to outside

i'm a old fart i think i could get up on roof but folks older than me may have a problem, also me as i get older

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oldbobsbus. thankyou thats what i was ona bout, i must av been posting when you replied, i thought there must be some thing that does the job , thankyou.

put a vent in door it would be lawful we hope

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Glenelg wrote:

oldbobsbus. thankyou thats what i was ona bout, i must av been posting when you replied, i thought there must be some thing that does the job , thankyou.

put a vent in door it would be lawful we hope


 There is NO seal on the bottom of the door so that makes it legal..

 



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 On a previous Mazda  motor home I owned I fitted a vented tool box on the back.

Got fed up with moving the generator, the petrol smell, and it also stored the petrol.

Had two supports fitted on the bumper bar by a work shop and bolted the  galvanized tool box  on top, padlocked,

and easy to use. Not that expensive either. It can also be bracketed to tow hitch supports.

If you have room under you could also suspend a petrol tank.



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What about mounting an electric fuel pump under the vehicle, and tap into the existing petrol tank/fuel line (if it's not a diesel, of course) then run a tap to any convenient place and with a switch to run it, just fill a small tin with what you need for the genny.
You'd want to thief proof it, but I reckon it could be done.

Like a water pump, have the switch inside, turn it on, then go out and turn the tap on, and hey presto! Petrol! You'd want to check with the local Transport Dept to ensure such a set up is legal, using proper petrol hose, clamps and a bona fide petrol tap. Might be laws about dispensing petrol in an open (public) place, but you would've been doing that with a jerry can anyway.

Could be a fun project

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Bevandy2 wrote:

What about mounting an electric fuel pump under the vehicle, and tap into the existing petrol tank/fuel line (if it's not a diesel, of course) then run a tap to any convenient place and with a switch to run it, just fill a small tin with what you need for the genny.
You'd want to thief proof it, but I reckon it could be done.

Like a water pump, have the switch inside, turn it on, then go out and turn the tap on, and hey presto! Petrol! You'd want to check with the local Transport Dept to ensure such a set up is legal, using proper petrol hose, clamps and a bona fide petrol tap. Might be laws about dispensing petrol in an open (public) place, but you would've been doing that with a jerry can anyway.

Could be a fun project

Bevan


Bevan,,   well it could be an interesting project but it is fraught with danger,,, one problem is the earthing of container being filled and potential energy differential (read spark source) especially when pumped ie the flow rate etc etc. Any flexible hose would need earth wire braided in etc etc.

IMHO too complex for us amateures,, jerry cans pose less risk. Systems in cars are semi contained ie the whole car is connected to itself so not much stray potential energy.

These are not the correct scientific/engineering terms so please bear with me but you get the thrust of the post.

 



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OK Baz, 'twas just an idea, don't wish to lead anyone astray. I agree with the points you make.

Are you listening Dave Sutton? Don't do it without professional advice.

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oldbobsbus wrote:

I have a dedicated storage on the side of out MH for fuel and oil, Ohhhhhh and the jack and wheelbrace and any other thing I can fit in like the wheel chocks..


 Bobs got the right idea    Dedicated storage for fuel.      Thank guys



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A dedicated area is indeed necessary ..

I carry an old esky with a lockable lid which houses a five litre container of  petrol and a few other small inflammable type items ...

This then is carried in the back of my tug under the canopy .. this removes any chances of fumes entering the cab at all.

The Esky could hold 2 x 5 litre containers if need be .. but these days I have little need to carry any more fuel as I find my solar power to be most suitable ..

The Esky is vented ..



-- Edited by Jonathan on Wednesday 18th of June 2014 06:18:36 AM

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Sounds like the way to go Bevan it should be legal from a proper tank with tap and fuel line.

 

 



-- Edited by Vanderee on Wednesday 18th of June 2014 08:14:33 AM

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Vanderee wrote:

Sounds like the way to go Bevan it should be legal from a proper tank with tap and fuel line.

 

 



-- Edited by Vanderee on Wednesday 18th of June 2014 08:14:33 AM


Don't think so,,, how will it comply with ADR's, insurance (they will deny it if not ADR compliant) and what if you have an accident with it ,,   ie, static electricity fire etc. 



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