Before I start I did a search but they are from way back that I found, so.
I wasn't going to start another thread and ask but hey ya know me, I can't help myself and do value everyones thoughts and comments so here goes.
I looked at in length and had a drive of a Holden Colorado today. First registered in January this year, 2,500km on the clock and a demo model with heaps of goodies on board, I would like to get some opinions from all you Colorado drivers please.
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TUG.......2014 Holden LT Colorado Twin Cab Ute with Canopy
DEN....... 2014 "Chief" Arrow CV (with some changes)
i have had two colorados the six speed auto goes well towing my 21 ft van had no problems maybe the 130 litre fuel tank wood be good like i had in my first car wally
The Prado has been costing a bit and is probably THE most UNecomical vehicle on the road mate. I am not saying all Prado's are like that though.
As I said just thinking at this stage but did really like the Colorado I test drove at length.
The one I was really keen on is LT twin cab ute but I did look at LT space cab ute as well, both diesel and 6speed auto. The reason for looking at thae space cab was the extra SPACE in the back. I want a canopy on the back though.
Having said that my first thoughts were to just get the single cab and get a body builder to build on the back for me to my specs, still thinking that way.
I have overnight decided I will do what I was originally going to do and look at all the other similar vehicles and possibly even the new Prado, might even have a look at a Disco. There are plenty of options out there and at this stage there is no rush (depends on how Prado behaves itself). I might even look at going on the road full time and get rid of base camp, so would update Avan to something bigger. Decisions Decisions. Who said retirement was fun. Ok then, it is.
Whatever I decide I want Diesel, Auto and 3-3.5t towing. The towing bit allows for any future developments.
Of course this is like work so will have to be done in grey nomad work hours 10.00am to Midday with a 1 hour break.
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TUG.......2014 Holden LT Colorado Twin Cab Ute with Canopy
DEN....... 2014 "Chief" Arrow CV (with some changes)
Ah yes -decisions ... decisions .... and the long hours pondering over a cold frothy. It's a hard life Doug - but you seem to be able to fulfil the job description quite well but make sure you adhere strictly to the Grey Nomad working hours. The one hour break is critical - and have a few 10 minute breathers too - just in case
It is interesting - a 'space cab' gives much better 'tray space' and with a canopy is VERY usable. A 'dual cab' gives less 'tray space' but extra 'people space'. I think a diesel/auto would be the better way to go whichever way you choose - especially if one of the utes.
At least there are plenty of reviews/comparisons in the magazine world with different testers giving each of them a top mark from time to time.
My opinion (which I share too often ) is that each of the utes are very similar but different. Ultimately, I believe the final decision on which vehicle is chosen is an 'emotional' one - AFTER all the research and specification dissection.
The only problem, if you would like the extra storage space provided by a ute, is that the new Prado and/or a Discovery will just give you 'station wagon' space - which is sort of what you have now.
Don't envy you the decision process. I occasionally sit and think about what vehicle I would have next ... and I always just woos out and decide to stay with the Discovery I have
Cheers - and enjoy the decision process - John
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Very impressed with ours and it's economy towing. 9.8 last trip and that included off the bitumen.
If you get a canopy consider having a scupper vent installed as well. I just recently put an ARB vent in mine to pressurise the canopy/tray area, to combat the dust that comes through the tail gate. Made a huge difference, I also fitted pinchweld seals around the tailgate, but still got a far bit of dust in there. So bought a vent from ARB. Fitted it myself.
-- Edited by elliemike on Wednesday 14th of May 2014 08:00:07 PM
I have a LT dual cab. To get more space and if not needed just remove the rear seats when touring. This makes a very handy and large secure storage area. Works well for me. This leaves the back of the ute for all the dirty stuff. Annex flooring, extra fuel, firewood, choofer etc etc. the only criticism is they need bigger fuel tank, although I still get around 550 kms on a full tank.
We have a 2013 Colorado done 14000 ks at the moment. Tows our van, 16 foot Golf with ease.
2.8 l. Diesel 6 speed outo. Turbo.
Loaded up our rig is about 4.8 - 5 tonnes, boat on top and all the gear. Ours is the Space cab model with the bigger alloy tray,
1.8 x 1.8 meters. ++
We usually carry our Engel fridge in the rear cargo area plus an Esky and all the valuables, Cameras etc.
One big advantage of our setup is the full length hood rack mounted on brackets fixed above the tray.
Supports the tinnie very well.
We don't have an "alluminium box" on the tray but I have raised the sides 85 mm. and have a le-taurnae??? cover which allows the ute to be used as a ute. By raising the sides all round We can accommodate most of the plastic boxes etc that we use for storage when travelling.
I also have storage boxes fitted under the tray for tools and the aux. battery is charged from the alternator when travelling. This one battery runs the 3 way fridge when travelling as well as the engel all the time never a wo
With the drop sides we can access any part of the tray for outboard and fuel containers etc.
In my opinion I would never attempt to tow much more than a three tonne Van.
I like to keep the towing vehicle a bit heavier than the trailer thus the load in the tray. Just my opinion.
We replaced our original 80 Series Cruiser with this one and I must say it drives and handles much better.
As for durability I don't expect that it will last as well as the old 80, I am concerned about all the electronic do-dads.
So far so good.
Most of the new 3 liter turbos are very similar, price, fuel usage, towing ability, choice is up to you.
Dougwe, Just another consideration, for what ever reason, a lot of buyers are removing the tubs from their twin cab utes and replacing them with alluminium trays.
It seems to be fairly common for what ever reason.
Dougwe, Just another consideration, for what ever reason, a lot of buyers are removing the tubs from their twin cab utes and replacing them with alluminium trays.
It seems to be fairly common for what ever reason.
Have fun Haji-Baba
I would like to thank you very much Jeff for that idea. Now you have added to my problems as to what to do and get. So thanks mate
I have never thought or seen that before you mentioned it but while out and about this morning I noticed heaps of them. Not a bad idea really. I saw a few with a aluminium boxed in area on back of a couple too.
Thanks again Jeff
Edit....forgot to mention, they were all Toyota Hi Aces though. They seem to be very popular up her in Townsville.
-- Edited by Dougwe on Friday 16th of May 2014 02:53:08 PM
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TUG.......2014 Holden LT Colorado Twin Cab Ute with Canopy
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Gidday mate, I bought a new colorado this year (traded the prado for 15,000). I installed a 130 lt tank & without the van I'm averageimg 8 lt per 100 k. Very pleased with it so far heaps of power and tows the van really well, and I can fit the grand kids in.
Being an avid ford fan, im probably the wrong person to enter this thread. However I have a 2012 XL Ranger dual cab, on a recent trip the little 4 cylender diesel returned 13.9 litres per 100Km towing a 2500KG caravan behind it. Ive got to say how delighted and surprised I was with that ute. I admit we looked at the colorado and went to ford. Too many bad write ups, I suggest go on line and do a toe to toe on both vehicles.
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No worries, as I said I am a one eyed blue oval driver and as such cant handle the rusties. I can only say how delighted we are with the Ranger, It drives well and returns 8.2 Litres per 100KM around town. I have read a few write ups on the rusty stuff and it cant touch the Ford. Take care and travel safe.
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I am not too sure on "The Rusty Stuff" you refer to PhilC, they will all rust if you put the on a beach, I have no faith in rust prevention methods on any vehicle if it is abused.
I have had one boat trailer which was never Galvanised under a 21 footer, very well painted though and serviced every Xmas, new paint killrust silver and never any rust.
Hollow tube chassis partially filled with Sump Oil and chassis plugged to retain the oil.
That trailer was still under the same boat after 4 four owners and something like 20 years. Sure, the springs were replaced, rollers and spindles, but the main frame was never touched.
You can't paint the parts of any motor car to the extent required to totally prevent rust. Especially near or in salty locations.
My Colorado has this "u beaut" electronic rust management system which to be effective must be serviced every year.
Any vehicle with this system or similar would need to be serviced on a regular basis.
So whilst you may have a valid point about rust I personally think the way you use any vehicle and maintain it will be the secret to durability.
As I suggested all the modern small diesels will do a good job, but in my opinion they are overated with the stated towing capacities. Not just the Motors but the Chassis as well.
Have a good look at the thickness of metal in the rear end of the chassis on all of them. Colorado, Ford, Mazda.
I don't know about the others.
I eventually settled on the Colorado because the Mazda BT50 / Ford was not available in the big tray, Space Cab and Auto.
The price was also better on the Colorado.
Any way Dougwe asked for opinions and he got some.