POLL - Suitable Names For Camps With No Fees For Campers

Dunmowin · Guru

RE: POLL - Suitable Names For Camps With No Fees For Campers

The dog lady · Guru

I've heard the argument that we cannot expect rubbish collection, toilets and other facilities to be provided by councils for "free" and should therefore not expect to camp for free. But I pay council rates for the whole year, even though I spend half the year in other council areas. I suspect that a large proportion of travellers are doing the same. So if even the roadside assist organisations have reciprocal arrangements, surely my rates will cover someone from another area using the toilet while I am away! It becomes a situation of "please pay us so that we can pay him so that he can pay them so that they can pay you".

And as for those who sold up and hit the road full time, they probably paid council rates for most of their working lives without the opportunity to use much of the council's services.

Nevertheless I can understand that if you want to camp within a town, where every square metre of land is expensive, then a fee for using that land to provide the owner with some return on investment is not unreasonable. But parks and other public places which already belong to the public should be free for the public to use. I don't pay to park on my own land, and I don't think I use more than my share of the public land that belongs to you and me!

Or is it that our politicians not only don't understand the word "representative" but have forgotten the meaning of "publicly owned" too.

OK, my rant for the month is over. Bush camping for me smile

-- Edited by The dog lady on Tuesday 1st of April 2014 06:03:22 PM

Retreat · Senior Member

My two bobs worth.

INDEPENDENT CAMPING

Free camping has the stigmata of bludging. Freedom campers have the suggestion of no cloths and members of a sunshine club. Lets leave Bush camping in the bygone era of the Great Depression of the 1930s and the bush rangers of the likes of Ned Kelly.

Lets be Independent and call our nomadic accommodation Independent Camping.

johnq · Guru

Vic41 wrote:
[snip].
Good points John and well written

That was very kind of you and Dunmowin as well.

After posting I believed I might have trodden on toes telling everyone what they already knew and most probably better than I ever would.

Vic41 · Guru

johnq wrote:
Vic41 wrote:
[snip].
Good points John and well written
That was very kind of you and Dunmowin as well.
After posting I believed I might have trodden on toes telling everyone what they already knew and most probably better than I ever would.

We all have our opinions John and they should be respected including yours (I know you do, just talking generally), and it was a well thought out post, as were several others here. The old saying we can always agree to disagree comes to mind for all of us.

Although I consider Dunmowins my friends, personally I do not like the term Freedom Camping, but that is just my opinion, I understand where they are coming from and the reasons for their choice.

The term reminds me of the "Freedom" call by Mel Gibson in the movie Braveheart, but maybe that lusty cry is what is needed to rally against those who are determined to reduce the free (to campers) or low cost camping spots to increase our usage of cp's instead. I notice in some towns the cp owners are on the Council so I would assume they hold sway and influence in that direction, not to mention the cp owners organisations etc.

-- Edited by Vic41 on Wednesday 2nd of April 2014 09:10:48 AM

dorian · Guru

+1 to johng and "the dog lady" and "Retreat"

The Water Board used to levy their fees on my vacant block of land until the law was eventually changed. The council also collected rates from me for many years on that same vacant block. That was bad enough, but the council also collected a "Waste Management Levy". When I asked the bozos just how much waste a vacant block of land generates, they couldn't give me an intelligent answer. In fact the only waste I ever saw on it were the grass clippings from the scumbag across the street and the bongs left behind by the local aboriginals after one of their weekend "corroborees".

peterblack · Senior Member

hi I have mainly just called it camping even when I had my jayco finch
even when in caravan park which wasn't very often
just enjoy

oldbobsbus · Guru

I have ticked OTHER..

We just call it Roadside Camps.. smile

Anything with FREE in it conjures up the thought of FREELOADERS..

We are anything but freeloaders look at the amount of tax we pay everytime we fill up with fuel..

jandas fun · Guru

I have also ticked OTHER

Have always thought of it as just 'camping' no matter if we are in a c/park, nat/state park,designated camp site or anywhere else.

If we spend our dollars in one town but use use the facilities in the next, then so be it. What goes around comes around.

Johnw

TowBall · Veteran Member

Hi all - I call it "Nomad Nesting"

Vic41 · Guru

TowBall wrote:
Hi all - I call it "Nomad Nesting"

Ha Ha.....I like it !! As long as the "ferals" don't try to steal your "eggs" LOL ! wink biggrin

JayDee · Guru

In our great country, we should have the right to free camp. But these days everything seems to come under the umbrella of Red Tape.
Fishing Licences
Toll charges
next will be bicycle Licences.
You name it, and we have to have a receipt or card for it.
Maybe we should go on a street march and chant.

What do we want........ Freedom
When do we want it .... Now
What do we want?.......Freedom camping
When do we want it?...Now.
That way, the television cameras will give our protest a hell of a lot of TV and other media coverage.

Will someone let me know where is the start of the queue.

Jay&Dee

Vic41 · Guru

JayDee wrote:
In our great country, we should have the right to free camp. But these days everything seems to come under the umbrella of Red Tape.
Fishing Licences
Toll charges
next will be bicycle Licences.
You name it, and we have to have a receipt or card for it.
Maybe we should go on a street march and chant.

What do we want........ Freedom
When do we want it .... Now
What do we want?.......Freedom camping
When do we want it?...Now.
That way, the television cameras will give our protest a hell of a lot of TV and other media coverage.

Will someone let me know where is the start of the queue.

Jay&Dee

Many moons back we had bicycle licences and registration plates in WA, the plates were about one and a half inches wide and six inches long, you fitted them along a bar on the bike with round clips and two small bolts that went through the clips and two holes on the plate.

I believe the plates were introduced in WA in 1919 not sure when they were phased out, around 1950's I think.

Here are a couple of shots of the licence plates, the BY on the first plate probably was for Bunbury WA...

http://www.perthvintagecycles.com/2010/10/1975-raleigh-sport.html

Wish I had kept mine now, they are worth a bit;

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Early-Kalgoorlie-Western-Australia-Bicycle-License-Number-Plate-/281292686981