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Yes, it seem to have.Insidious bugger. will watch what I download form now on.Thanks, Bill


 OK that's good, now when you download anything make sure you do a CUSTOM download and unclick any other items you do not want, especially toolbars that can get installed, because that is what happened with the qv06 malware.

 

Now in regards to these guys talking about Linux v Windows, if you like Linux stick to it if you like Windows stick to it, each to his own, this topic was asking for help with Windows it was not asking what was the better operating system, the main thing is that bill is happy with the result. 


 Good OnYa wombat and Santa. A lot of us don't like Windows OS but when we get a new laptop it's already installed. I hate Win8 with a vengeance but stuck with it. I look at all questions/answers on puters as I can learn something but sick of the "drum" beating re-operating systems too.

Glad you could help bill12. I use paid AVG and Emsisoft Anti-Malware which monitors D/Ls and (crossing fingers) haven't had many problems since using.



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Yes, it seem to have.Insidious bugger. will watch what I download form now on.Thanks, Bill


 OK that's good, now when you download anything make sure you do a CUSTOM download and unclick any other items you do not want, especially toolbars that can get installed, because that is what happened with the qv06 malware.

 

Now in regards to these guys talking about Linux v Windows, if you like Linux stick to it if you like Windows stick to it, each to his own, this topic was asking for help with Windows it was not asking what was the better operating system, the main thing is that bill is happy with the result. 


The best help you can get for windows, is to get rid of it. Bill like all proprietary users is happy now, because he has again received a short reprieve, but nothing has changed. Avoiding viruses is about having a OS with the capabilities to allow you to do that and not have to constantly pay for something you shouldn't need if you had a decent system, nothing to do with what is the best system. In the Open source world, that changes every day with every release and upgrade. As open source provides different solutions for many hundreds of different computing requirements, you can choose the state of the technology, type of system you need and which flavours you will try to get the best for your circumstances. I certainly don't use the best distro for personal computing, but one that provides me and those around me with what we need to enjoy computing and be reasonably safe from any form of invasive attack.

We operate on a very secure and anonymous private open source network in the deep web, which leaves no trace and stops any form of tracking. Our browsers are dedicated open source security browsers, unlike proprietary browsers along with chrome, firefox and others, are open to all forms of attacks when run in windows. Windows and apple collect all your data and provides it to others, as do browsers, especially google and just about all proprietary systems, software and sites.

It also revolves around what you determine is help. You wouldn't get an alcoholic banned from a pub, then drop them off at another pub and tell them they are cured. With all problems technical or otherwise, the first thing to remove, is the cause. Re-education learning means you don't go back to the cause of your problems, in this technological case, windows.

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Nativepepper, you are preaching to the converted. I am a firm believer in open source. In fact I believe our voting system should be electronic and based on open source software, but that's a topic for another discussion ...

Decades ago I experimented with Linux and Coherent (a commerical *nix OS) when both were just command line versions. However, my customer base used DOS and Windows, plus various minicomputer OS-es, so I didn't put much effort into learning Unix and its variants. And nothing has really changed since then. Linux is still an OS for boffins. The Linux community have no interest in making it Windows-like or Mac-like, and it will never have an interface that a 4-year-old could come to terms with. Let's face it, most people are just ordinary point-and-click users, especially us old farts. Heck, most GNs would have trouble setting the time on their appliances, or tuning their auto-search digital TVs. How many people have a robust backup plan? That would at least offer some protection against data loss due to malware, and it's relatively easy to do, but most people don't bother.

If Linux has any chance of making an inroad into Microsoft's and Apple's market share, then there needs to be a concerted effort by governments to wean themselves off the corporate teat. Make Linux, not Windows, the OS platform at school. Make Linux the OS of choice for the public service. Think of the millions or billions of dollars that could be saved and diverted into real education resources. Did Gonski even consider that possibility?

As for Linux being more secure, perhaps part of its security lies in its relative obscurity. Malware miscreants would no doubt target Windows and Apple platforms because of their wider popularity, and because the average user of such products is technically illiterate. In any case I suspect that the majority of Linux exploits are directed at servers rather than client boxes.

Perhaps we should both be happy that so many people are ignorant of Linux, and that Windows and OSX are preoccupying the malware writers. By way of analogy, I hate ads on TV, and I mute them, but if we didn't have them, and if we didn't have people who watch them, then we wouldn't have free-to-air TV at all.

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Look, I really don,t care what the system is as long as it reliable, and secure.The present laptop has win8, and as it came with the comp, I am stuck with it. I don,t like it but its hard to get rid of, and I am getting used to it.I guess I am like thousands of other users.Don,t want anything fancy, just reliable. Bill

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G'day Dorian, I agree with most of what you posted, how long is it since you tried a linux flavour. They are very different to even a year ago and virtually child proof. Have set up many systems for people in their 80's, our kids, grand kids, their friends and all able to navigate and use the system within a few minutes. It's far simpler and easy to use than windows by miles and they don't crash. Many older people don't cope very well with attacks and it does upset them to suddenly have problems and not able to do anything, with windows that's a certainty for everyone. There are a number of open source distro's which look and operate like window and many people are using them, Zorin is one of many as is pclinux.

www.instantfundas.com/2011/08/zorin-os-linux-distribution-that-looks.html

www.pclinuxos.com/

There is something in what you say about obscurity using linux, but it makes no difference on the net when you enter a site no matter the type of servers you use. It's within your system where the real security is of paramount importance. Ads on TV are nothing like attacks, bots, worms, DDOS, tracking cookies, psihing and the miriade of other vulnerabilities windows is open to There are no viruses on the tv, lots of subliminal ads though and ads on on every site. You can delete or ignore them, I never see any ads unless I allow them to be there, our system removes them as it enters the site. It also analyses the site to see if it is an attack or insecure site and will let us know what we are about to get into, then gives us the option to no enter or set up barriers to any intrusion, which will effect the operation of the site for us.

It's all automatic, you don't need to be a nerd, or techo, just happy to undergo a change in your habits, very small learning curve, with security and safe browsing at the end.

I wouldn't use anything I was unhappy with and always costing me money, can't see any logic or reason to become an unhappy slave to the corporate world. XP was the last decent Microsoft offering, since nothing has worked and next year everyone will have to part out their money for win9, because of the massive failure of 8/8.1. Microsoft is discontinuing support for XP in April this year and nothing since has worked, just got worse and the majority of systems still in use in government, 95% of small business, companies and homes is XP

Microsoft won't support any software and hardware previous to win7, the only outcome for the majority is, pay up for win9 and you can guarantee it will be a failure. Microsoft refuses to use anything but it's last century coding system, as they having nothing else to work with. Same goes for apple last century code and 20 years behind the times.



-- Edited by native pepper on Tuesday 21st of January 2014 12:01:59 PM

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bill12 wrote:

Look, I really don,t care what the system is as long as it reliable, and secure.The present laptop has win8, and as it came with the comp, I am stuck with it. I don,t like it but its hard to get rid of, and I am getting used to it.I guess I am like thousands of other users.Don,t want anything fancy, just reliable. Bill


 G'day Bill, you don't need to get rid win8, you can download an open source system, burn it to a dvd then start your computer with it. It will load and you can play with it all you like. You can browse, try out all the loaded software and learn how it all works at your leisure. When finished shut it down and start windows. if you find something you would like to give a go, it will set up your system so you can either boot into your linux, or windows. Then you can use both until you decide which or what is for you.

 

There is unlimited help available for you and if decided to give it a go, be happy to help you with it and guide you to good advice and outcomes.



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bill12 wrote:

Look, I really don,t care what the system is as long as it reliable, and secure.The present laptop has win8, and as it came with the comp, I am stuck with it. I don,t like it but its hard to get rid of, and I am getting used to it.I guess I am like thousands of other users.Don,t want anything fancy, just reliable. Bill


 Stick with Win 8 bill, by all means try the other suggestion BUT all you need is Classic Shell its FREE and it puts the shell icon in your taskbar and just like the start button, Win 8.1 is supposed to come with a start button, it does not, now goto http://www.classicshell.net/downloads/    and download that program, also after starting Win8 hit the Windows key and X at the same time and you have the option of starting with your desktop just like Win7, go to it bill, let us know how you go.

I never use the tile page.

 

NP, Now in regards to open source I would like to try the download to dvd method, do I have to download that to my computer and leave it on there or once its burnt to dvd or just use the dvd ?

What OP system do you suggest is the best to start with?





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Look, I really don,t care what the system is as long as it reliable, and secure.The present laptop has win8, and as it came with the comp, I am stuck with it. I don,t like it but its hard to get rid of, and I am getting used to it.I guess I am like thousands of other users.Don,t want anything fancy, just reliable. Bill


 Stick with Win 8 bill, by all means try the other suggestion BUT all you need is Classic Shell its FREE and it puts the shell icon in your taskbar and just like the start button, Win 8.1 is supposed to come with a start button, it does not, now goto http://www.classicshell.net/downloads/    and download that program, also after starting Win8 hit the Windows key and X at the same time and you have the option of starting with your desktop just like Win7, go to it bill, let us know how you go.

I never use the tile page.

 

NP, Now in regards to open source I would like to try the download to dvd method, do I have to download that to my computer and leave it on there or once its burnt to dvd or just use the dvd ?


 





-- Edited by _wombat_ on Tuesday 21st of January 2014 12:25:32 PM


To see exactly what all the fuss is about I just spent the last hour trying to do exactly that, getting nowhere, dead ends and false starts, Linux would need to be a whole lot user friendly than the Ubuntu home page.confuse



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Hi Santa, what exactly were you trying to do for the last hour?



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Thanks, Wombat. I aready use classic shell, and its much better than the win8 rubbish.Iam staying with what I,ve got and won,t be fooling about with other systems-too much trouble.Just want a reliable system. Bill

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Hi Santa, what exactly were you trying to do for the last hour?


Strange, posted a reply to Wombat, failed to displayconfuse

Try again, spent the past hour and more attempting to download Linux from the Ubuntu site, all I got for my time was false starts, failed downloads and confusion about the endless versions of Linux that seem to be available.

Have given up, I have better things to do with my time than chase obscure operation systems, Linux would need to be a lot more user friendly than accessing their software is.

The geeks are welcome to it.confuse



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Look, I really don,t care what the system is as long as it reliable, and secure.The present laptop has win8, and as it came with the comp, I am stuck with it. I don,t like it but its hard to get rid of, and I am getting used to it.I guess I am like thousands of other users.Don,t want anything fancy, just reliable. Bill


 Stick with Win 8 bill, by all means try the other suggestion BUT all you need is Classic Shell its FREE and it puts the shell icon in your taskbar and just like the start button, Win 8.1 is supposed to come with a start button, it does not, now goto http://www.classicshell.net/downloads/    and download that program, also after starting Win8 hit the Windows key and X at the same time and you have the option of starting with your desktop just like Win7, go to it bill, let us know how you go.

I never use the tile page.

 

NP, Now in regards to open source I would like to try the download to dvd method, do I have to download that to my computer and leave it on there or once its burnt to dvd or just use the dvd ?

What OP system do you suggest is the best to start with?




-- Edited by _wombat_ on Tuesday 21st of January 2014 12:25:32 PM


 

Yep download the iso and burn it to a dvd. Make sure is is a stable version and not a development one. Get the 32bit version and not 64, 32 will work on 32 and 64bit computers. Set your computer to start from the dvd drive, put the dvd in and shut it down, then it should start on the dvd drive and load the dvd.

I wouldn't try Ubuntu, it's at a transition stage and not that user friendly in many ways for those starting out. It's going in a different direction to most distro's in many peoples opinions, dropped it years ago. The best to start with is Mint, we use it on our personal pc and is very easy to use. The ones I posted links to, have no idea about them, only that they emulate a windows environment, to my mind that sucks and is very limiting. Before you download something, you should get some advice on how and what to download, many versions are out of date so may not work properly now. The latest release will work straight out of the box.

http://linuxmint.com/

This is the download page, http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php

Download the top one, Cinnamon, by clicking on the 32 bit with the line under it. That will begin your download, from there burn it and see what happens. It can't harm your windows partition. If you need any help understanding and working it, just ask, happy to help anyone open up a new world of computing.

 

 





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-- Edited by native pepper on Tuesday 21st of January 2014 02:20:32 PM

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Thanks NP, downloading now, perhaps I will start a new topic for anymore questions I have for you and whoever wants to join in in this section Techies Corner.



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That's fine. Beginning to rain here, so have to go an put things away. will be back on in about 30 minutes or so.

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Hi all. My tiny mind is almost reeling from all the advice given so far. Glad you lot don't run a car wash or you would have all the windows out and the engine stripped before washing my car. Now back to the OP. qv06 is an annoying but not fatal attachment to IE but only if you use IE directly as your browser. Being a Potentially unwanted Program it has the capacity to transport all manner of nasties but so far has not done so. Live with the fact that Microsoft ,hand in glove with Google, has a stranglehold on your system ( yes I know--Windows only not the others ). There are some excellent alternatives to Google, make your own choice. I use a security program VIPRE which in 4 months has let no bugs in so adequate for my purpose. And to keep the cobwebs from piling up I use a ripper FREE program 360 Amigo. Turns a Victa 2 stroke into a Harley.

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Hi all. My tiny mind is almost reeling from all the advice given so far. Glad you lot don't run a car wash or you would have all the windows out and the engine stripped before washing my car. Now back to the OP. qv06 is an annoying but not fatal attachment to IE but only if you use IE directly as your browser. Being a Potentially unwanted Program it has the capacity to transport all manner of nasties but so far has not done so. Live with the fact that Microsoft ,hand in glove with Google, has a stranglehold on your system ( yes I know--Windows only not the others ). There are some excellent alternatives to Google, make your own choice. I use a security program VIPRE which in 4 months has let no bugs in so adequate for my purpose. And to keep the cobwebs from piling up I use a ripper FREE program 360 Amigo. Turns a Victa 2 stroke into a Harley.


 Not entirely true, a friend of mine had it and only uses Chrome browser and got that malware/virus

Just had a read of the 360 Amigo page and it says it cleans the registry, does it do this as part of the cleanup or does it give you the option to clean the reg by itself?



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I use a free program Windows Repair,

www.tweaking.com/

Sunday is my "house keeping" day and I run my anti-virus, malware and this program before backing-up to an external drive.

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Hi Wombat and all. Sorry about the delay replying. Rather than use up valuable forum space with detail I suggest you download it - simple and quick - then you can play, play, play with it. Almost endless options for partial or total cleanup. Will await your comments. Cheers.

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Thanks NP, downloading now, perhaps I will start a new topic for anymore questions I have for you and whoever wants to join in in this section Techies Corner.


 How did the download go Wombat?



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Thanks NP, downloading now, perhaps I will start a new topic for anymore questions I have for you and whoever wants to join in in this section Techies Corner.


 How did the download go Wombat?


 download ok, having probs getting into bios in my old xp machine, problem also is TIME, I need 36 hours in a day, can you arragne that. lol



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Thanks NP, downloading now, perhaps I will start a new topic for anymore questions I have for you and whoever wants to join in in this section Techies Corner.


 How did the download go Wombat?


 download ok, having probs getting into bios in my old xp machine, problem also is TIME, I need 36 hours in a day, can you arragne that. lol


 Why do you need to go into your bios, don't windows boxes start first on the dvd drive for using the recovery disc. If not choose dvd in the boot menu at start. Done that many times with XP when showing people open source.



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trying to get XP to boot with DVD and there is no boot option for DVD, I want to change the start option to DVD and after hitting F10 there is no choice to change the startup sequence 



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Ok, with xp running, insert the dvd and restart your computer, press the space bar on the keyboard immediately after the BIOS screen appears and before the Windows logo screen appears. Press "F8" to access the boot options. Select dvd and hit enter, that should get it going.





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Ok, with xp running, insert the dvd and restart your computer, press the space bar on the keyboard immediately after the BIOS screen appears and before the Windows logo screen appears. Press "F8" to access the boot options. Select dvd and hit enter, that should get it going.




 Thanks NP, will try that later today and report back here, just on our way out, thanks for the help.



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First of all your AV detection like Norton's and McAfee (and more) are all old hat, and Chrome is a virus magnet. If you use chrome under settings you might have search engines you don't want. Chrome has some lousy trackers attached. Panda Cloud Free AV is the most advanced Virus detection" before" intrusion.
You do not want inactive search engines in your registry.
Make sure Windows Auto update is on.
I found that Firefox users have outdated drivers and software unless you stay Windows friendly update with Explorer at least monthly.clean up the temp files,
and defragment. Windows does not favor Firefox. I have fixed many friend's Firefox problems which appear unexpectedly with Outlook Express.
Even my Windows 98 old PC still runs tops.
I found no advantage with Firefox and run an ultra fast self built PC system with 6 hard Seagate drives on Explorer.

Then use the best free downloads to keep your system running clean. Download these Free downloads.
Spybot Search and Destroy, Free Registry Fix, restores your settings as they change; they all work great, and your registry system stays clean.

If you do not update Windows regularly you simply have no system restore points.
Allow secure programs in Windows fire wall and you can run much faster with fewer problems.

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Ok, with xp running, insert the dvd and restart your computer, press the space bar on the keyboard immediately after the BIOS screen appears and before the Windows logo screen appears. Press "F8" to access the boot options. Select dvd and hit enter, that should get it going.




 NP, I tried that and I get this screen 

cant see where I can change to DVD startup, any ideas please

 



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My apologies, forgot win doesn't have a boot loader and boot sequence is in the bios.

Try hitting F2 or delete. When your computer starts, it should show a list of keys to press to access certain area's. On some computers it happens so fast you can miss it and even if you see the key, there's not enough time to hit it. If this happens, as soon as you see the bios message, hit pause break, this will freeze the screen and you can see the key you have to hit to get into bios.

Have you tried putting the dvd in and then restarting your computer, it really should start on the dvd for xp. If your computer only shows a picture representing bios, hit "enter" and it should take you to setup, from there get into the bios and change your boot sequences.

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My apologies, forgot win doesn't have a boot loader and boot sequence is in the bios.

Try hitting F2 or delete. When your computer starts, it should show a list of keys to press to access certain area's. On some computers it happens so fast you can miss it and even if you see the key, there's not enough time to hit it. If this happens, as soon as you see the bios message, hit pause break, this will freeze the screen and you can see the key you have to hit to get into bios.

Have you tried putting the dvd in and then restarting your computer, it really should start on the dvd for xp. If your computer only shows a picture representing bios, hit "enter" and it should take you to setup, from there get into the bios and change your boot sequences.

Hope that helps.


 Hi NP, still no go, Grrrrr, on startup I get  'F10 Rom base set up' keep pressing F10 and WinXP starts its loading.

Hit F2 or delete and there is no list just WinXP loads as normal

I attach some pics to give you more info.

I did try insert DVD and restarting but still loads Win XP, somehow I need to get the comp to see the DVD first, Grrrrrr biggrin 



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Tried off and on for a few days to get the Cinnamon software loaded and running without experiencing any emotion other than frustration.

Have now reverted to Windows, bliss, loads each and every time and does exactly what I need it to do.

Guess I tried, seems open source software ain't really that open.no



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My apologies, forgot win doesn't have a boot loader and boot sequence is in the bios.

Try hitting F2 or delete. When your computer starts, it should show a list of keys to press to access certain area's. On some computers it happens so fast you can miss it and even if you see the key, there's not enough time to hit it. If this happens, as soon as you see the bios message, hit pause break, this will freeze the screen and you can see the key you have to hit to get into bios.

Have you tried putting the dvd in and then restarting your computer, it really should start on the dvd for xp. If your computer only shows a picture representing bios, hit "enter" and it should take you to setup, from there get into the bios and change your boot sequences.

Hope that helps.


 Hi NP, still no go, Grrrrr, on startup I get  'F10 Rom base set up' keep pressing F10 and WinXP starts its loading.

Hit F2 or delete and there is no list just WinXP loads as normal

I attach some pics to give you more info.

I did try insert DVD and restarting but still loads Win XP, somehow I need to get the comp to see the DVD first, Grrrrrr biggrin 


 OK, are you holding the f10 key down, as that will only start windows. You may have to press it a couple of times to get it to work. Sadly that's the nature of windows, they do everything in their power to control your system and stop you doing anything with it, but what they want. That looks fine to me, as you burnt the disc everything seems to be there. 

Most computers are virtually locked to the user once you load windows. Every new computer we've got over the last 10 years has cause the same problems. Now we demand they remove windows and reduce the price accordingly, most make up every excuse possible, so we walk out and they lose out. Now we always buy on line, save a fortune and get out computers bare which makes it's simple task to load any form of system we feel like. That's why people never try anything else, as soon as they do, this is what happens, windows hogs the computer and you have to fool it into starting on a non Microsoft dvd.  It all depends on how important it is to experience where th state of the art is, otherwise yo stay with what you know and put up with the negat v economics and frustrationg at having to constantly work on your system to keep it functioning and safe.

 

Most people just want to be able to do what they want, so aren't interested in keeping up to date or at the cutting edge of the technology. To me that's fine, it does make me laugh when people put down what they have no idea of. If windows provided us with the systems we need at a reasonable price, that would be fine. But found out ten years ago that wasn't the case and never will be, Unless you're prepared to spend many thousands of dollars to get a system we get for free.



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