Dometic stove

briche · Guru

Dometic stove

Jedo_03 · Veteran Member

Not challenging your qualifications here: and I hope you don't get grumpy with me - but as an electrician, you ought to have a Ute-full of gadgets and gizmo's and magik boxes to run a gamut of tests, checks and diagnostics on the appliance, circuit-breaker and wiring to identify the location of the potential "fault" BEFORE you start dismantling anything...
Oldbob might be correct - maybe the circuit-breaker is a little "tired"...
But equally - you may be correct: the hotplate may be shorting and going to ground and tripping the circuit breaker...
And IF YOUR ASSUMPTION IS CORRECT - and you gain access to the dometic and stick your fingers in there - then YOU might become the ground source...
240v BITES..!!!!
But I'm sure you know that... Being an electrician...

-- Edited by Jedo_03 on Friday 8th of November 2013 09:48:58 PM

oldbobsbus · Guru

I know this is gunna sound like a stupid question, but have you unpluged it and put a multimeter across the plug to see if it has a direct short incase the circuit breaker is just a little tired..lol
Also you could try running it directly from an extension lead to again eliminate your circuit breaker.. :)

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

It would be isolated, earthed and tagged ?? Before inspection.. Lol..

oldbobsbus · Guru

By the look of it Briche you need to remover the 2 little screws on each of the gas burners and then my guess is that there will be another 2 larger ones under the burners holding the hob on, it looks much the same burner set up as the Thetford stove but I only have the 4 burner gas stove so I have NFI how the electric burner is held in..
Sorry I can't be any more helpful but I only have a photo to look at of the top of the stove..

-- Edited by oldbobsbus on Saturday 9th of November 2013 10:08:36 AM

Santa · Guru

Jedo_03 wrote:

Not challenging your qualifications here: and I hope you don't get grumpy with me - but as an electrician, you ought to have a Ute-full of gadgets and gizmo's and magik boxes to run a gamut of tests, checks and diagnostics on the appliance, circuit-breaker and wiring to identify the location of the potential "fault" BEFORE you start dismantling anything...
Oldbob might be correct - maybe the circuit-breaker is a little "tired"...
But equally - you may be correct: the hotplate may be shorting and going to ground and tripping the circuit breaker...
And IF YOUR ASSUMPTION IS CORRECT - and you gain access to the dometic and stick your fingers in there - then YOU might become the ground source...
240v BITES..!!!!
But I'm sure you know that... Being an electrician...

-- Edited by Jedo_03 on Friday 8th of November 2013 09:48:58 PM

The man has told you he is an electrician and is simply looking for a little help on gaining access to the hotplate.

Why the challenge? confuse

oldtrack123 · Guru

briche wrote:
Does anyone know how to gain access to the electric hot plate of a dometic stove. I don't seem to be able to find any instructions to carry out that function. Ours has a fault of some sort as it trips the circuit breaker in the van when it's turned on.
there will be no hassles in getting the job done if I can gain access to it. qualifications are no hassles as I am an electricIan but I have not come across one of these before. So I figure it's easier to ask rather that get angry with it.
trust some one can point me in the right direction
briche

HI
Perhaps try this link
http://www.justanswer.com/sip/Dometic?r=ppc|ga|2|HI%20-%20Appliances|Dometic&JPKW=dometic%20stove&JPDC=S&JPST=&JPAD=24717764818&JPMT=p&JPNW=s&JPAF=txt&JPCD=20120920&JPRC=1&JPOP=Janine_GimmeAMinute_trans&gclid=CNbFn86E17oCFUpZpQodQlwAbA

-- Edited by briche on Friday 8th of November 2013 12:30:06 PM

oldbobsbus · Guru

oldtrack123 wrote:
briche wrote:
Does anyone know how to gain access to the electric hot plate of a dometic stove. I don't seem to be able to find any instructions to carry out that function. Ours has a fault of some sort as it trips the circuit breaker in the van when it's turned on.
there will be no hassles in getting the job done if I can gain access to it. qualifications are no hassles as I am an electricIan but I have not come across one of these before. So I figure it's easier to ask rather that get angry with it.
trust some one can point me in the right direction
briche

HI
Perhaps try this link
http://www.justanswer.com/sip/Dometic?r=ppc|ga|2|HI%20-%20Appliances|Dometic&JPKW=dometic%20stove&JPDC=S&JPST=&JPAD=24717764818&JPMT=p&JPNW=s&JPAF=txt&JPCD=20120920&JPRC=1&JPOP=Janine_GimmeAMinute_trans&gclid=CNbFn86E17oCFUpZpQodQlwAbA

-- Edited by briche on Friday 8th of November 2013 12:30:06 PM

That link is about as helpful as hip pockets in underpants Peter,

I know you feel you need to post on every thread on this section but if you don't have knowledge on a subject maybe you could sit back and learn.. smile

Ohhh and when you give advice on subjects you do know about I find it very informative mate..

oldtrack123 · Guru

oldbobsbus wrote:
That link is about as helpful as hip pockets in underpants Peter,
I know you feel you need to post on every thread on this section but if you don't have knowledge on a subject maybe you could sit back and learn..
Ohhh and when you give advice on subjects you do know about I find it very informative mate..

Hi Bob

You may note, I did not claim any knowledge of THAT particular product smile

I simply posted a link that I thought may have been useful to the OP

PeterQ

briche · Guru

Thank you one and all for your comments. I appreciate those that where made with my safety in mind along with those that pointed out the obvious things that one should do in tracking down an electrical fault.. But being an electrician for 50 years plus in a variety of positions in major companies and aviation departments as well, my skills over those years have fitted me out well for the task at hand.

as was pointed out by Santa, I am just trying to find my way into this appliance to finish the fault finding checks so as to repair, replace whatever is causing the problem

i thank you for the information that was posted and have noted the important details.

briche

dorian · Guru

What is the model number of the stove?

briche · Guru

I will need to get back to you with that info as we are currently away from the van and staying with one of Cheryl's sisters at Byron Bay. The van is in a secure compound at Casino. !!!!!

oldtrack123 · Guru

oldbobsbus wrote:
I know this is gunna sound like a stupid question, but have you unpluged it and put a multimeter across the plug to see if it has a direct short incase the circuit breaker is just a little tired..lol
Also you could try running it directly from an extension lead to again eliminate your circuit breaker.. :)

HI

Briche did say he is an electrician

AS such ,I am sure he would have done TWO basic checks before he decided to pull it apart smile

[a] Test both lines to earth, to check insulation resistance with the element switch in the"ON" position

Check the element resistance for comparison with the element Watts rating ,measured ACROSS the two lines with the element Switch "ON",

ALL POWER DISCONNECTED ,OF COURSE

PeterQ

oldtrack123 · Guru

oldtrack123 wrote:
oldbobsbus wrote:
I know this is gunna sound like a stupid question, but have you unpluged it and put a multimeter across the plug to see if it has a direct short incase the circuit breaker is just a little tired..lol
Also you could try running it directly from an extension lead to again eliminate your circuit breaker.. :)

HI
Briche did say he is an electrician
AS such ,I am sure he would have done TWO basic checks before he decided to pull it apart
[a] Test both lines to earth, to check insulation resistance with the element switch in the"ON" position
Check the element resistance for comparison with the element Watts rating ,measured ACROSS the two lines with the element Switch "ON",
ALL POWER DISCONNECTED ,OF COURSE
Sometime it is difficult to work out how to pull something apart, better to find out if one can ,rather than do damage & add to the problem!!!
PeterQ

briche · Guru

Once again I would refer you to my second post !! N

briche

Santa · Guru

briche wrote:
Once again I would refer you to my second post !! N
briche

Sometimes it takes a while for the penny to drop Briche. wink

briche · Guru

It would appear so !!!!!

oldtrack123 · Guru

briche wrote:
It would appear so !!!!!

Perhaps You & Santa did not understand MY post above

I was merely pointing out to "old bob"that you as an electrician would have done the standard tests smile

And sensibly was merely seeking advice on any access tricks or traps

.We both know that often it is difficult to work out,how somethings come apart.

AND it is better to find out [if one can ]than do damage while attempting to dismantle

PeterQ smile

Santa · Guru

19 posts and still no answer to the original question, just the normal obligatory tooing and froing that seems to happen with any thread that involves electricity. confuse

dorian · Guru

The OP's question amounts to asking, "How do I R & R component X in my Holden car?"

IMO the question has been answered as accurately and as completely as possible, given the scant information provided.

The advice is sound, namely to troubleshoot the appliance to the maximum extent possible before disassembling it. Faults have a habit of disappearing after things are disturbed, so if there is an intermittent short or leak to ground, now is the best time to look for it. The suggested methods and techniques are right on the money, assuming that the switching is electromechanical rather than solid state.

A model number would help to locate a service manual, or an exploded diagram, or a parts list.

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Dometic+%22model+number%22+filetype:pdf

-- Edited by dorian on Wednesday 13th of November 2013 11:36:51 AM

oldtrack123 · Guru

Santa wrote:
19 posts and still no answer to the original question, just the normal obligatory tooing and froing that seems to happen with any thread that involves electricity.

AND YOUR contribution was useful

PeterQ