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The other side of life


I sit back and read all the great stories of all my fellow travellers and wonder why no one tells the other side,

The brake downs in the middle of no where the long wait for parts not to mention the price.

The ever increasing price of travel, the unreal price of fuel, the flies the mozzys you never hear about this just the happy hour watching the sun set.

There is hardly a day goes buy without we have to pull these happy go lucky travellers out of there own mess, tavelling thru the outback with there wide wheels towing there garden trailers rigs with side steps and roof racks come on guys when was the last time you seen anything but split rims on a station rig and they live there, not to mention what side steps in the sand hills what a handicap.

Lets hear some real yarns of of the things that didnt go right.no



-- Edited by Red Dog on Wednesday 29th of May 2013 06:00:57 PM

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Our Victorian trip with the camper-trailer had only one problem. Rain. Rain equals wet canvas. I really didn't ever want to go anywhere with the camper-trailer again. Folding it down while the canvas was wet meant the bed got damp, even if we covered it with tarpaulin and plastic sheeting.
It was the only problem though, we saw some lovely places on fine days. And it provoked us into buying the caravan, so that now if its wet we can prepare and eat our dinner inside! smile



-- Edited by Gerty Dancer on Wednesday 29th of May 2013 07:17:27 PM

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Took the back road from Blinman east to Arkaroola in 2009,,, road was OK graded and some wash aways.

However the last 9km if I recall was blue metal the size of railway ballast but very sharp. We travelled slowly and watched the  tyre liek hawks in the rear vision mirrors (as best we could). Van swung a bit a surafce was very loose.

Rolled into the servo/cafe/motel entrance (whatever it was) and a bloke came out the shop and said where did you do that??? Do what???

Got out of car looked at non existant front right tyre and mangled rimon caravan. So changed tyre to typical comments from gawking people with one guy saying everyone was coming down for a bo peep.

Not much sympathy there.

Shop was taking up a petition to SA government as so many flats etc on that stretch.

Later found out tyre shredded ONLY 900 metres from Arkaroola. Bugger, 900 metres in 300km trip.

New rim and tyre at Copley.



-- Edited by Baz421 on Wednesday 29th of May 2013 09:13:27 PM

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On another trip coming down from N/T into WA a big bull decided to wonder out from the long grass that grows almost to the edge of road in places up that way and BANG lucky I was only going slow but buggered the radiator and fan and a head light ,no other damage, but , the hassle and drama of it all .Had to leave wife with tug and van I had to hitch a ride into next town 50k away ,as no mob service or for that matter no service of any kind ,had to BEG tow truck driver to come and tow us into town Money up front out there mate. No waiting for insurance company to pay up .Then the insurance mob we were with only had the assessor out there ,so would have to wait another 2/3 weeks before he would be back out that way, so I had the gear flown in from Darwin over night and payed for all the repairs myself ,just to get mobile again. But it was like almost $2000 just to get the bloody radiator flown in. So I just cannot under stand how these people who rely just on the pension from week to week can travel I maybe weak but I just could not even think of doing it ,Just because in our travelling in 13 years I know how and what can go wrong ,even if it is not your fault...Not so bad if you are only travelling in major built up areas ,but a whole lot of factors to take in when away from all the mod cons of life.

 

 would be back out that way.



-- Edited by herbie on Wednesday 29th of May 2013 09:39:54 PM

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Red Dog, so should we all stay at home and post on this forum about the ever increasing Council Rates,the hot water service shat itself,the ever increasing water and gas rates,the house needs painting again,the lawnmower just died not to mention the whipper snipper, the guttering needs replacing right across the back of the house and only seems like yesterday I replaced it,actually 15 years but gee doesnt time fly when I'm staring at the same front yard,back yard I've been staring at for the past 30 years...lousy noisy neighbours have moved in next door and the worst thing is I hear they bought it not just renters....friends always willing to share their every life problem with you because you've been a good listener for 30 years.......bring on death for relief......OR...as is written across the back of my Jayco...."Without Going You Get Nowhere".......
Noone can guarantee our health or how long we have to enjoy our one time on this earth.....I'm certain of one thing after nearly 4 years on the road away from all the previous stated problems,... new vistas, new neighbours, new ideas, a new reason to get up every morning,fishing, prospecting,bush camping.......which I share with a few mozzies, flys, snakes, and possibility of my own tiny existance turning pear shaped due to some of the things that reality brings....I wouldn't be dead for quids and you cant put a monetary value on this existance...'health is your real wealth' followed by the freedom and sheer pleasure of dancing to the beat of your own drum......and not someone else's......if you live to fit in with others plans....guess what?..life tells us they dont really have much planned for you/us at all.......bring on any travelling problems I'm more than ready to confront them......Hoo Roo



-- Edited by Golddetectornomad on Wednesday 29th of May 2013 10:29:37 PM

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I guess the majority of us want to stay positive. The bad times have been mentioned but we find the good times far outway the bad times. Only the other day we heard about the folk who wrote off their car and van on the Nullarbor. And Kandagal had an accident this last weekend. The 'true' stories are there but let's concentrate on the positives.

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Thats all good Neilnruth but to many people read this forum and head off with stars in there eyes

and nothing more, sure we all like to be positive but you have to be real first and the rest will follow



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RD, yes there are some negatives to travelling...but they become the most memorable moments....ok here's our negative stories:

1. On a major road, a semi turns onto this road from another street, failing to give way, making the lady in front of us brake, with the old caravan behind we ran into her. Luckily she had no damage, we had cracking of the paint on our front bumper from her tow bar. Les got out and wanted to kill the driver...luckily he didn't. The memorable side, hardly any damage, and the microwave that Les had built into a cupboard didn't move.

2. Driving into the city, a car behind us was beeping his horn, Les pulled over, and he told us our caravan door was open and blowing in the breeze. Luckily nothing fell out. The door lock had broken, we don't know how, but we tied it up until we could replace the lock.

3. Travelling interstate, Les notices something is flapping in the breeze on the caravan, so he pulls over. Luckily it was in a town and he parked in front of a beautiful park. I made lunch and a cuppa, while he repaired the edging strip on the caravan, in the rain...poor Les. It was lucky that Les forgot to remove the sealant gun when we started our trip.

4. Again travelling on the long straight road from Morgan in SA to ? Burra (I think thats the town we were heading to). We were running out of petrol, we had a head wind and we knew we weren't going to make it, so Les unhitched the caravan in a layby, leaving me and my daughter there while he hurried up and got petrol and came back for us. My daughter was worried sick, I wasn't, it was nice away from the traffic, under some trees in the shade.

Ok these are just a few. They are not as bad as others have had, but as I said they become more memorable than the good stories.

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I guess in most cases the happy enjoyable travels far out-way the problems encountered along the way. Most of us are probably 'glass half full' people rather than 'glass half empty'. For the amount of k's collectively travelled and time spent 'on the road' there are probably not that many problems or issues. Most people fix 'or get fixed' the problem and move on.

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Hi Red dog, yes we need to be realists, we are one of those you mention "heading of with stars in our eye's". We are definitely hoping that everything goes well, we never break down, never get hassled for parking in the wrong spot, never get robbed as Yeoeleven did last week, but reality is that sh#t happens. I think that most of us have earned the right for the sh#t to happen on our terms.

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Yes, we like to look at the positives, but I can see your point Red Dog.

So here are mine.

1/ Towing my little camper trailer somewhere along the Landsborough Highway in Qld, the end came off my pole carrier and I lost one pole altogether, and another gouged a track in the bitumen. 

Now I have the little Nipper and I had a few mishaps on my trip to Vic last year.

2/ After being distracted while winding the legs up, I missed one, and gouged it into the ground at Greens Lake, bending it in the process, so I now can't use it til my son repairs it. No biggy.

3/ The poptop roof popped up while driving along. Brother-in-law was in front and told me over the UHF. I hadn't clipped it down.

4/ I left the keys in the door for many klms...without them falling out!

5/ I drove several klms with the brake on the van.

6/ The Anderson plug came adrift and dragged along the road for many klms. I had to buy a new one in Gympie and the GN's at Cobb & Co last year fixed it for me.

7/ And last but certainly not least, I am constantly fighting with the b.loody 3 way fridge!

But they're all minor things, and I'm getting better at not making stupid mistakes. confuse biggrin

 



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Gee this thread reminds me of when we left Darwin in 2007, bought a 1983 millard van $7000 and a 1990 landcruiser ute also $7000 and drove off into the sunset..........five a nd a half months and 18,000kls later we arrived on the Gold Coast, we had 3 flat tyres and never saw one accident in all that time, I realise now how lucky and blessed we were, but I have to say it was the best five and a half months of our lives and we still have the tug but have updated the van, 1990 model LOL.

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You just have to read all my postings, to see that things do go wrong.Just take it all in your stride.

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I understand your post Red Dog regarding people only reflecting on the good times ,but in reality being on the road is a hell of a big gamble regarding travelling our big country.I realise we all get in that she will 'be right mate'...attitude. I always allow for the unexpected to happen .One cannot control weather/ camps/ vehicle/tug/ health/ ..some of the out back places these days do not even have a Dr any more ,the closest one might be hundreds of kilometres away .If problems happen regarding vehicle and it needs parts shipped in to fix it ,it might mean weeks in a caravan park where the price each night can be big dollars,if you happen to be in a place that is a hot spot for tourists. I  know a few people who have had problems with their motor home for one reason or another in out of the way places and had to get a cabin to stay in until vehicle was fixed,it cut their trip away very short as they did not factor in any of the extra cost of cabin and repair bill to fix the motor home. We got stuck in N/T once for a week due to the only servo having broken bowser pumps and only one useable ,so was only dishing out $60 per vehicle in fuel.Only time I ever let this happen letting both tanks run almost dry.I always top up at least every servo or depending how far between every second. So I guess that was a learning curb for me way back then. And the poor people who had the accident travelling the Nullaboor as they mentioned a lesson learned by not over insuring their gear. The other thing is cost of fuel is becoming dearer and dearer and the further outback one heads the more likely it will become dearer.So I for one never just reflect on the good aspect of travelling , because if you have that mentality you are living in dream land.



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Over more than 55 years camper trailering and caravanning there have not been many problems, all that I can think of at the moment are 1 flat tyre on the tug 1 blowout on the van also a broken shock absorber, 1 broken air con belt on the tug so all in all mostly nothing happens that would cause any great concern, oh thats right the camper trailer did unhook from the tug but the chain held onto it, so no big deal, so don't worry be happy.
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Yep - the further you go, the more likely it is that something will go wrong. That is just part of travelling, and I think most people can take it in their stride, and overcome.

Thorough research and preparation BEFORE setting off for the first time can prevent a heap of possible mishaps. It is much better for the stars in the eyes to be due to happy informed anticipation and not just ignorance.

Can't do much about the poor driving of others, unfortunately.

We towed our van over 100,000kms - about a third of that on unsealed roads.

We had some flat tyres, but always had a good spare to put on; actually two spares, because the van had same wheels as Landrover. One time, though, had 2 flats, before we could get to a tyre dealer - that was not a nice feeling, going along on a little used dirt road with no usable spare left. But we made it.

We "dropped" some brake magnets on the van - once a couple of hundred kms west of Ayers Rock. Not too much traffic out there, so we made it into Yulara ok. Had to sit there and wait for spares to be posted up - but we got in some great walking in the area while we waited. And the Driver learned to carry a spare set of magnets - and how to fit them. Learned that it was safest to change them every 30,000kms or so.

We had some breakdowns of the Landrover in its 350,000km time with us. Got it bogged a few times. Just part of life on the road and being a bit adventurous. Got a few different colonies of ants in the van.

BUT - we also saw lots of wonderful country, did some great walks through incredible scenery, met amazing fellow travellers, lived years of adventure that will provide sustaining memories for the rest of our lives - yes, even the memories of the bits that didn't go quite right.



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Don't buy cheap or mass produced crap and look after your gear and you should have minimum problems.
Who cares about the negatives?
Maybe you could start your own doomsday forum Red Dog.
And if someone complains about the price of fuel, what is your solution?
Just as I thought....bugger all you can do about it!
If you worry about something that will most likely never happen, then stay home.
If you can't afford fuel, then stay home.
If you can't afford a decent caravan/motorhome/camper etc, then you can't afford fuel, and stay at home.
If you think that I will engage in a banal argument after I post this, forget it, stay home!
Have a positively great day Red Dog.



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You just have to read all my postings, to see that things do go wrong.Just take it all in your stride.


 Mate, go back & check on Kiwi-as, its been ongoing  for 12mths. Its more than one would care to remember.

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herbie wrote:

I understand your post Red Dog regarding people only reflecting on the good times ,but in reality being on the road is a hell of a big gamble regarding travelling our big country.I realise we all get in that she will 'be right mate'...attitude. I always allow for the unexpected to happen .One cannot control weather/ camps/ vehicle/tug/ health/ ..some of the out back places these days do not even have a Dr any more ,the closest one might be hundreds of kilometres away .If problems happen regarding vehicle and it needs parts shipped in to fix it ,it might mean weeks in a caravan park where the price each night can be big dollars,if you happen to be in a place that is a hot spot for tourists. I  know a few people who have had problems with their motor home for one reason or another in out of the way places and had to get a cabin to stay in until vehicle was fixed,it cut their trip away very short as they did not factor in any of the extra cost of cabin and repair bill to fix the motor home. We got stuck in N/T once for a week due to the only servo having broken bowser pumps and only one useable ,so was only dishing out $60 per vehicle in fuel.Only time I ever let this happen letting both tanks run almost dry.I always top up at least every servo or depending how far between every second. So I guess that was a learning curb for me way back then. And the poor people who had the accident travelling the Nullaboor as they mentioned a lesson learned by not over insuring their gear. The other thing is cost of fuel is becoming dearer and dearer and the further outback one heads the more likely it will become dearer.So I for one never just reflect on the good aspect of travelling , because if you have that mentality you are living in dream land.


 Herbie, you are right  breakdowns or accidents  or troubles can be waiting

around the next corner when out in the back blocks.

I have wrote off my car  out there in the middle of no where  ,

had to call on the radio for two days before I got any help .

and a  wait of  nearly three weeks before I could get a tow  and transport for the caravan.

 Having a well thought out disaster plan  is esential .

I had everything I neeed on tthat trip extra fuel , water tyres  wheel  batery  tools  etc 

 but what I needed on that trip was a spare motor. for my  two year old car.

 A interesting challenge that trip was.



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Starting as a mechanic in a country workshop in 1966 I have seen the other side of roadside accidents and breakdowns. Working in garages with RACQ breakdown service is always interesting.
What's equally as fascinating is the reaction and attitude of travellers who get caught up in events beyond their control.
It would be easy to fill a book with the number of call outs, the different ways people handle being immobile on the side of the road, sometimes for a considerable time under conditions of wet or really hot weather.
One thing is clear to me, those that travel lightest and don't travel too fast have very few problems. These days of laminated windscreens, good tyres and good roads make travel so much easier.

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I was the first to answer Red Dog's post and it didn't occur to me to even stop and think how many things had gone wrong over the 35 years we have been caravanning.
Now I think of it, last year we were away for 9 .5 weeks and it was BECAUSE of the things that went wrong....But we just remember that 9.5 weeks as a great time away.
What went wrong? The springs flattened out, we were stuck in Nyngan for a week. The tyres had to be replaced. Couldn't get them in Nyngan, Cobar or Broken Hill - had to wait while they came in from Adelaide. The car needed servicing - had to wait for parts to come in again. So the list went on...but it became the best 9.5 weeks away that we'd had because we learnt to slow down, enjoy what we could where we were, learn to freecamp and remember the whole time as a positive and not a negative.
The reality was we had lots of unexpected expenses - but they were out of our control so why grumble?

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Well put Gary but when you are home HELP  is at your finger tips.I  guess what Red Dog was trying to say here in the thread he started, was be aware that things can go tup up. And if you have not got the money/ insurance cover dotted with every I and t,health insurance /Ambo cover/ tools /equipment to try to fix a brake down/ communication of some sort/ you could find it very stressful stuck in never never land.Some people just think she will be right mate ,someone will give me a hand,but that someone may not be around at the time you need them...One can slow down as slow as a snail like us at the moment,but that sure ain't going to stop Murphy from rearing his head if some mechanical problem decides to sh;; it self or on some of these roads a tier decides to let go.And if you have just one spear ,you sure as hell are not going to go far with out replacing it .And if they ain't got the tier you need well then it is just sit it out until it arrives at a hefty price .Upin some of these out back places every thing is charged for including freight .



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Howdy Red Dog, I have been very lucky on the road compared to many I spose but I did mention a near disaster the other day and February 2012 I told about being stranded on the side of the road for hours due to lack of help from a Auto Club. You only have to look at the very unlucky Kiwi-as and Kiwi Rainbow, those two great people have had so much bad luck with their tug YET they both stay very positive and don't complain.

I agree with a few others and stay positive, we are so lucky to be out in the playground.

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If you are worried about having troubles on your trip . . . . . . stay home .

If you are worried about fuel prices . . . . . . . definately stay home . Fuel wont get any cheaper .

We have had a few small things go wrong . Not a huge worry . Get 'em fixed and move on .

That's what I reckon anyway .



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Ok i can see this is pointless and no one is really listerning, all i am trying to point out is people are just to free and easy about the way they go about things and this doesnt mean camping on the side of the rode for a week while you wait for a new radiator or wheel the real mistakes cost you your life , if anyone feels i am saying it wrong i do apoligise in advance, but anyway injoy your happy hour and cheers to you all.



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I'll wager Tom Waterhouse odds, that more folk die making mistakes while staying at home,... than being a self reliant travelling Grey Nomad, and proud of it....Hoo Roo......

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My life is riddled with things that have gone wrong hehe, and I haven't been anywhere yet! I figure things are gonna go wrong anyway, so why not have them go wrong somewhere "out there" with a bit of adventure thrown in? I'm with Golddetectornomad... kiss the neighbors goodbye and get the most out of life.

I also agree with whoever said slow down and take it easy. I reckon that's a smart way of lessening the chances of making mistakes.

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