carrying firearms as a G/N

keiron · Senior Member

RE: carrying firearms as a G/N

Golddetectornomad · Senior Member

So where did you hide them when you entered National Parks and some State Forrests which state 'No Firearms'....Vehicle carry is regarded as rifle carry same as knife carry laws throughout Australia...the fact that someone is not caught with them and travelled with them hidden particularly some years ago does not necessarily make them legal to carry now. I still believe W.A. rifle carry will cause you grief....as part of the legal Prospecting Fraternity,prospecting under our Miners Right in clearly defined State Forrests and National Parks if I witness anyone discharging firearms from their vehicles or in any of those areas I will have no hesitation in reporting details of vehicles etc to the next Town's Police Station.....bullets dont discriminate and travel further than the shooter can see.....I can understand firing within controlled areas such as rifle ranges however indiscriminate "hunting" for food surely is becoming a practice of the past in Australia in 2013...only takes one zealous policeman's interpretation of current Laws if your found with them to cause you legal issues and travel delays......Hoo Roo

way2gokev · Senior Member

G'day

The thrust of this post surely should be why do states and territories have different laws in relation to gun ownership. Its not to hard for states to co-operate with one and other. Bit like driving licences, You have an Australian licence but in some states you cant get work or live without changing your licence.

I have a gun licence and have had it ever since it was required after Port Arthur, every year or so you have to renew that licence and it is getting harder to justify gun ownership. I use it for culling feral animals and humanly putting down sick or injured animals. It is not easy to get a gun licence nowdays and in many cases for the young ones it requires sponsorship by a licenced gun owner. All types of firearms are inert, will harm no-one until some one pulls the trigger.

A point to remember there are more unregistered guns in Australia than registered, we have to abide by strict laws and regulations and every licenced gun owner is a responsible person in regard to how and when he uses a firearm.

In regard to travelling with a firearm my lips are sealed but for protection and putting down injured wildlife or helping a farmer being over run with ferals or getting a bit of game for a meal if you are licenced cannot see a problem.

Why do all police carry firearms when 99% of the time they have no need for them.

Cheers

Kev

leevin · Senior Member

johnq wrote:
leevin,

Jolly good that you have your toys for your interests and recreational pursuits. Doubtless like thousands of other respectable, law-abiding Aussies, firearms owners too -although they went through rigorous character checks and paid large sums for the privilege- you obtained your toys legally and will use them exclusively for a legal purpose.

As many migrants and those who can remember WW2 will attest, there are many countries on the globe where totalitarian governments and dictators do not afford their populations the freedom of speech that we take for granted and the right, not an 'entitlement' to be withdrawn at the whim of government, to conduct our personal affairs as they wish. We have laws, democratically passed and generally do not see benefit in State control. Although in recent times the State has become more involved in micro-managing the private lives of citizens, a situation that is resented by many and has had some unintended negative consequences.

Notwithstanding our vbeflief in freedom and democratic heritage there are some who believe that their views should always prevail, and our rights so hard fought for should be curtailled. Hopefully most GNs would not fall into that trap, of demanding bans and restrictions for others on the basis of their own prejudices and sometimes, their own unwarranted fears. There are many who believe that seniors are an encumbrance for instance, and as many if not more who cannot understand why anyone over 65 should have a licence, let alone be allowed to take charge a heavy rig (what about the children on the road and in other cars?).

Lets get back to discussing the independent, nomadic lifestyle. Live and let live and lets not mind our neighbour's yard for them.

What the hell is that gibberish all about!?

This is why we do not attend "rallies, wagon-wheels, happy hours, glee clubs" etc, while travelling!

Some people just rant on................... ad nauseum.

-- Edited by leevin on Monday 13th of May 2013 10:27:31 PM

herbie · Guru

Everyone has a right to choose what sport they want to partake in ,and if guns rocks your boat well be it. No different i guess me & with my spear guns .And i do not have to have any kind of licence to carry them.do not have to have them locked away or even pulled appart if i do not want to. But in saying that i have them secured under the bed. But know some who just leave them on floor of anex. any kid could wonder in and ...we all know the end storey here.

-- Edited by herbie on Monday 13th of May 2013 10:32:05 PM

leevin · Senior Member

Pete49 & Johnq.......read herbie's post.
Now shoot him down in flames, as he is saying exactly what I said!

-- Edited by leevin on Monday 13th of May 2013 10:53:47 PM

leevin · Senior Member

Sheba wrote:
I for one, would like to be able to carry at least a .22 when travelling ? Much easier to shoot a wounded animal, than have to bash it over the head with a lump of wood if you can find one the right size to do the job.
Have had to do that a few times, and it is not at all pleasant !!!!!!
Cheers,
Sheba.

I have never owned a firearm/gun/rifle whatever.

Never needed one.

We are travelling in a light truck/22' caravan combo.

So far, we have done 33000 kms going around Australia.

Never seen a wounded, injured animal.

Lots of dead wombats in Vic & SA.

Lots of dead wallabies/small 'roos in NT & Qld.

Some of the "scary" stories that you read on forums are really the imagination of a bored wanna-be traveller.

The only reason that we didn't go to Wolf Creek, was the road was closed due to the wet season.

If you're a scaredy cat, don't watch the movie.

We have free-camped on our own & among others.

Never had a problem.

The only reason that I carry my golf clubs, is to play golf.

They are stored under the bed, so not really easy to get at.

johnq · Guru

leevin,

Jolly good that you have your toys for your interests and recreational pursuits. Doubtless like thousands of other respectable, law-abiding Aussies, firearms owners too -although they went through rigorous character checks and paid large sums for the privilege- you obtained your toys legally and will use them exclusively for a legal purpose.

As many migrants and those who can remember WW2 will attest, there are many countries on the globe where totalitarian governments and dictators do not afford their populations the freedom of speech that we take for granted and the right, not an 'entitlement' to be withdrawn at the whim of government, to conduct our personal affairs as they wish. We have laws, democratically passed and generally do not see benefit in State control. Although in recent times the State has become more involved in micro-managing the private lives of citizens, a situation that is resented by many and has had some unintended negative consequences.

Notwithstanding our vbeflief in freedom and democratic heritage there are some who believe that their views should always prevail, and our rights so hard fought for should be curtailled. Hopefully most GNs would not fall into that trap, of demanding bans and restrictions for others on the basis of their own prejudices and sometimes, their own unwarranted fears. There are many who believe that seniors are an encumbrance for instance, and as many if not more who cannot understand why anyone over 65 should have a licence, let alone be allowed to take charge a heavy rig (what about the children on the road and in other cars?).

Lets get back to discussing the independent, nomadic lifestyle. Live and let live and lets not mind our neighbour's yard for them.

Pete49 · Senior Member

Well said Johnq................ I don't tell others how to hit golf balls why should they tell me how to do (insert hobby of choice). Kendron asked a legit question and it shouldn't have gone to the rights or wrongs of firearms ownership or use.
Pete

leevin · Senior Member

Pete49 wrote:
Well said Johnq................ I don't tell others how to hit golf balls why should they tell me how to do (insert hobby of choice). Kendron asked a legit question and it shouldn't have gone to the rights or wrongs of firearms ownership or use.
Pete

Can you lot read????

I did not say that anyone should not have a firearm or any weapon of choice.

I did what you are doing Pete49.....voicing a worthless opinion.

Read my post again before you make snide remarks.

I am glad that somebody can interpret Johnq's post!

herbie · Guru

leevin wrote:
Pete49 & Johnq.......read herbie's post.
Now shoot him down in flames, as he is saying exactly what I said!

-- Edited by leevin on Monday 13th of May 2013 10:37:11 PM

I would be rather camped next to a person who is a resposible gun owner, than some of these people who light camp fires out in the free camp in the scrub and decide they are going for a drive/ walk and leave the fire unattended ..now they are a danger to our safety.

Baz421 · Guru

What's this get leevin day is it??????

We have drifted off topic with some real crap here,,,,, play the game guys not the man.

I was going to post but have changed my mind if I will be hounded over simple misunderstadings etc etc.

Dissappointed in this thread overall, when OP was a legitimate one.

Baz421 · Guru

Keiron

here's a couple of links as an example of NSW and QLD - as we're on our way there.

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/182281/FACT_SHEET_Interstate_Recognition.pdf

http://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/travel/visiting/recognition.htm

From a practical perspective I've found that police treat this as if you are responsible in securing the firearms and keeping bolts, magazines and ammo separate as far as possible, and have it under control, then you are technically complying with the law.

In SA a weapon is considered loaded if the magazine is loaded,,, no matter hwre the firearm is. So as you travel get on line or go to a police station and ask.

It's pretty easy to ask although I once asked a group of coppers and got a few varieties of answers, but there is recognition that to get a firearm from A to B then there has to be some degree of flexibility.

Rememebr to carry all licences and registrations.

Hope this helps.