G'day Chris, I'm saying I can't/don't have the internal factory installed Setec Smart Charger switched on while my Geni is connected to the 240V inlet....the Setec is a trickle charge to my Van battery when I'm connected to 240V power...its the Geni coming through the 240V inlet that appearantly 'blew' it...I dont know why it happened, neither does Jayco or Setec...or dont want to know if it admits some sort of liability on their part......it's only by putting on forum I can find out if it has happened to other members....I do accept the Gals chastisement that I should be sitting round the Tech Section Camp Fire with this, but this Camp fire is so much warmer and friendlier and less condescending particularly as I'm not technocrat inclined, and I hoped they would allow me one digression....?...Gals?......Hoo Roo.....

-- Edited by Golddetectornomad on Saturday 6th of April 2013 09:58:20 PM

I don't know about other members, but one of the main reasons I visit this site is to pick up useful bits of information to make my caravanning experience easier and more enjoyable. I was thinking - there are a hell of a lot of members, all with a lot of experience. Now if everyone reading this thread replied with just ONE useful tip we would have a great resourse of information for newbies and experienced caravanners alike.

I'll start it off and let's see where we go

With cassette toilets always cover the slide with a little water. Smells can't travel through water and it keeps the seal moist preserving it's life.

I agree, Grahame. Before I joined this site, I thought I'd have to wait till I was on the road, meeting fellow travellers, before I learned anything worthwhile, and that it would be a very long process. But in only a few short months since becoming an official GN, I've learned heaps about all kinds of things. However, I already knew about wet seals mate... seen lots of them on telly nature shows.

Perfect illustration of how some people only look at a very few Threads Beth.  They don't know what they're missing, do they ?

Cheers,

Sheba. 

So much for my seals joke. Nature shows? Wet seals? Clap, clap? Bark, bark? Oh well... back to the drawing board.

The hints and tips sticky is good. Does everyone look - I doubt it. I just thought a thread with everyone contributing a quick tip for the benefit of all was a good idea. Apparently not.

Yes its a good idea Grahame, and your tip about the cassette toilet is a good one too. But this thread will get buried, so its best to put good ideas and hints/tips in the "Hints Tips and Good Ideas" thread which stays on the front page. Thanks.

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I 'blew' my Setec 1 Smart Charger installed in my Jayco Heritage when I first connected my Generator direct to my 240V inlet on side of van......I left the Setec 1 switched on while I attempted to use a 240V appliance inside my Van..the red 'error' light appeared on outside of the the installed Setec indicating a problem...I contacted Jayco Customer Service per phone asking why aren't we warned to switch it off while using Geni through the 240V inlet.....I received real non committal wishy washy could be may not be the reason and not sure if the Setec should indeed be switched off and I should contact Setec....in the meantime they told me I could come down to their factory in Dandenong and purchase a newer improved model Setec 2 for approx $600......I took out the Setec 1 and took to competent Auto Electrician here in Bendigo who declared it officially dead and my likely only alternative was to replace it.....I re-installed a new Setec 2 at the quoted cost of purchase..no discount by Jayco either.....has worked fine ever since..BUT..I always switch off the Setec 2 smart charger before using my Geni as a $600 likely cost again has made me rather gun shy....I offer this by way of a tip and also make a request if anyone else has experienced the same blown Setec 1 in their Jayco?.....Yes I contacted Setec and received another mealy mouth non commital reply that it may or may not have been the cause of failure but to be on the safe side I should switch off 'if it concerns me'.....!.....both Companys seemed far more interested in non admitting liability even though I was not asking them to...I simply wanted the truth....have not discussed this before but consider it timely to find out if I was an orphan...or one of many?....the ultimate irony was also the geni I used was one of those new Chinese blue 2KVa which I carried for 2 years without ever using and the very next time I used it after this experience it dropped its piston or something and it cost me $50 by mechanical place in Heathcote to find out it also was a totally dead parrot....carried it new for 2 years in the front of my Heritage.....about $1300 cost and died on second use...you would know the brand they are offered in 1Kva and 2Kva versions and are toted as being the ants pants of Genis safe for TV's, computers etc....I've just added the name after making this post it was a Kipor............I then purchased a 2Kva Honda which has turned out to be ultra reliable and a great Geni in every way.....I offered the box of bits of the Chinese crapp geni to the Honda dealer to show potential customers what NOT to purchase/waste their money on..I was also past warranty, same as the Jayco of course, because I carried it new and did not use it apart from when I first purchased it...always assumed it would be there for me when I needed to use it..........Hoo Roo

Larry, are you saying you can't run the battery charger from the genny and 240v appliances at the same time. I have a Honda 2kva which I carry solely to charge the batteries and run the fridge which is 240v only if my batteries go flat.

Cheers!

Chris

-- Edited by Golddetectornomad on Saturday 6th of April 2013 05:25:50 PM

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Thanks for the reply Larry, will have to check and make sure my setup is not similarly affected.

Cheers!

Chris

Gary,with such sharp armour piercing eyes mate, how could you ever be considered dumbo?...that look is more like the HeadMistress of St Trinians,aka Alistair Sim..or am I showing my vintage again?....Tip: a sticky date is not always something you eat...it can be something you have after visiting one of those 1 star CP ablution blocks that allow only three numbered shiny stamps for tissues in one desperate attempt to retrieve..Fort Knox would be easier to gain access than their toilet tissue dispensers........after one up,one down, and one to shine............ you find yourself competing with the little yelpers skidding along the medium strip....Lol...Hoo Roo

 

P.S. Goldcoaster, a Setec 2 trickle charger factory installed by Jayco when built is not a Ctek,unless Jayco are now installing them in lieu of the Setec2....

-- Edited by Golddetectornomad on Sunday 7th of April 2013 08:00:56 AM

I liked your joke Gary, but then again I'm guilty of the odd "grandad joke" now and then too.. ;)

Golddetectornomad wrote:

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I 'blew' my Setec 1 Smart Charger installed in my Jayco Heritage when I first connected my Generator direct to my 240V inlet on side of van......I left the Setec 1 switched on while I attempted to use a 240V appliance inside my Van..the red 'error' light appeared on outside of the the installed Setec indicating a problem...I contacted Jayco Customer Service per phone asking why aren't we warned to switch it off while using Geni through the 240V inlet.....I received real non committal wishy washy could be may not be the reason and not sure if the Setec should indeed be switched off and I should contact Setec....in the meantime they told me I could come down to their factory in Dandenong and purchase a newer improved model Setec 2 for approx $600......I took out the Setec 1 and took to competent Auto Electrician here in Bendigo who declared it officially dead and my likely only alternative was to replace it.....I re-installed a new Setec 2 at the quoted cost of purchase..no discount by Jayco either.....has worked fine ever since..BUT..I always switch off the Setec 2 smart charger before using my Geni as a $600 likely cost again has made me rather gun shy....I offer this by way of a tip and also make a request if anyone else has experienced the same blown Setec 1 in their Jayco?.....Yes I contacted Setec and received another mealy mouth non commital reply that it may or may not have been the cause of failure but to be on the safe side I should switch off 'if it concerns me'.....!.....both Companys seemed far more interested in non admitting liability even though I was not asking them to...I simply wanted the truth....have not discussed this before but consider it timely to find out if I was an orphan...or one of many?....the ultimate irony was also the geni I used was one of those new Chinese blue 2KVa which I carried for 2 years without ever using and the very next time I used it after this experience it dropped its piston or something and it cost me $50 by mechanical place in Heathcote to find out it also was a totally dead parrot....carried it new for 2 years in the front of my Heritage.....about $1300 cost and died on second use...you would know the brand they are offered in 1Kva and 2Kva versions and are toted as being the ants pants of Genis safe for TV's, computers etc....I've just added the name after making this post it was a Kipor............I then purchased a 2Kva Honda which has turned out to be ultra reliable and a great Geni in every way.....I offered the box of bits of the Chinese crapp geni to the Honda dealer to show potential customers what NOT to purchase/waste their money on..I was also past warranty, same as the Jayco of course, because I carried it new and did not use it apart from when I first purchased it...always assumed it would be there for me when I needed to use it..........Hoo Roo

-- Edited by Golddetectornomad on Saturday 6th of April 2013 05:25:50 PM

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 I hope I dont offend anyone for  pointing this out.   But do other people have problems in concentrating  on  great blocks of text similar to this.

I find Huge blocks of text like this very tedious on the eyes to read,     because of the lack of Sentence's and Paragraphs.

So what happens is I lose the thread and just give up and  dont bother reading it at all.

 

The breaking up of text into Paragraphs with an indent or double line space makes it easier to  to follow and understand.

Again please dont take this as a personal attack.  Lots of people write like this on forums.    I enjoy reading all this stuff.   But if I cant read it easily  it becomes a chore.

Sometimes,   I do realise,      it is the computer that reorganises the text  and reduces all the spacing.   I have had this happen to me on occasions.

 

Regards

Mike   

Point taken Mike, I rarely use 5 words when 10 will suffice....Hoo Roo

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 I hope I dont offend anyone for  pointing this out.   But do other people have problems in concentrating  on  great blocks of text similar to this.

I find Huge blocks of text like this very tedious on the eyes to read,     because of the lack of Sentence's and Paragraphs.

So what happens is I lose the thread and just give up and  dont bother reading it at all.

 

The breaking up of text into Paragraphs with an indent or double line space makes it easier to  to follow and understand.

Again please dont take this as a personal attack.  Lots of people write like this on forums.    I enjoy reading all this stuff.   But if I cant read it easily  it becomes a chore.

Sometimes,   I do realise,      it is the computer that reorganises the text  and reduces all the spacing.   I have had this happen to me on occasions.

 

Regards

Mike   

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 Totally agree. I have trouble reading great blocks of text. And I don't mean offence either.

I can understand the use of 10 words when 5 will suffice too, because I often do it myself.  

It's not really the length of the wording, it just needs to be broken into paragraphs a bit for poor old eyes to read clearly.

Paragraphs and chapters. Ya know, before I wrote my first book, I was terrified of chapters. What were they? How do you know when to begin and end one? How long should they be? I figured some expert was gonna embarrass the hell outta me by telling me I was ignorant and amateurish for not understanding what a chapter was. (They did that anyway but for different reasons). Anyway, I figured it out. A chapter is as long or as short as the author wants it to be. It begins and ends where the author wants it to begin and end. And that's it. Nothing mysterious about it at all.

Chapters are a bit like paragraphs. They break text into segments that make it easier for the reader to handle. In fact, long paragraphs scare people. They give the impression of hard slog. And it's easy to get lost in amongst all that verbiage. Chapters are the same. If you wanna take a break from reading, the end of a chapter is a convenient spot, and you know where you left off. So there was silly ol' scaredy cat me worrying about nothing.

Punctuation is important for a similar reason. It's all about flow... setting the pace with pauses and stops so that information doesn't become jumbled. Short sentences are better than long ones (like in legalese). Short sentences also control the flow and improve comprehension.

The only thing my elderly neighbor remembers from English class at school is never to begin a sentence with 'and'. Whoever the teacher was never read the Bible. Half the sentences begin with 'and'. In any case, rules are there to be broken. Shakespeare broke rules all the time. But he was a genius, and no one argues with a genius.