Robbery at Rest Stop

Big Gorilla · Guru

RE: Robbery at Rest Stop

hako · Guru

Big Gorilla wrote:

Hako, your statement is not worth commenting on..

My sincere apologies - I was not trying to have a go at you which is why there was a 'smiley' at the end of it. Just thought it was not wise to have a wallet and phone in plain sight.

Sheba · Guru

hako wrote:
My sincere apologies - I was not trying to have a go at you which is why there was a 'smiley' at the end of it. Just thought it was not wise to have a wallet and phone in plain sight.

Hako, if you read BG's post properly, you would see that he did that deliberately, and the reason why.
Cheers,
Sheba.

hako · Guru

Sheba wrote:
hako wrote:
My sincere apologies - I was not trying to have a go at you which is why there was a 'smiley' at the end of it. Just thought it was not wise to have a wallet and phone in plain sight.

Hako, if you read BG's post properly, you would see that he did that deliberately, and the reason why.
Cheers,
Sheba.

Thanks Sheba, must admit I probably read too much into it. More apologies.

Regards.

Big Gorilla · Guru

hako wrote:
Big Gorilla wrote:

Hako, your statement is not worth commenting on..

My sincere apologies - I was not trying to have a go at you which is why there was a 'smiley' at the end of it. Just thought it was not wise to have a wallet and phone in plain sight.

No problem Hako. Maybe I was a bit quick off the mark with my comment. Many drivers have their phones on a cradle attached to the dash. My old (second) wallet is not on the dash, but in plain site of anyone who might enter my MH with intentions to rob me. It's just my way of trying to protect my property and cash in the event I suffered a robbery. My real cellphone and wallet with all the cash I carry are secreted away. You might think I'm going a bit overboard with my ways of doing things but I guess it goes back to my days living overseas where every time you went out into the street, as a foreigner, there were robbers and pickpockets watching your every move. Sorry if I caused any offence.... Ken.

_wombat_ · Master (of Mischief)

BG, I'm a mate of yours so can you tell me where you keep your second wallet, please

Big Gorilla · Guru

_wombat_ wrote:
BG, I'm a mate of yours so can you tell me where you keep your second wallet, please

Well Buddy, if you can see past the barrel of a 38, you'll see it !!! biggrin

_wombat_ · Master (of Mischief)

Big Gorilla wrote:
_wombat_ wrote:
BG, I'm a mate of yours so can you tell me where you keep your second wallet, please
Well Buddy, if you can see past the barrel of a 38, you'll see it !!!

think I might pass on that one biggrin

hako · Guru

Big Gorilla wrote:
Ken.

All good Ken - I try to be security conscious as well and I don't think you're going overboard. I guess the reason why I commented was in part due to my sons (3 of them) having a bad habit of placing their fat wallet on the dashboard whenever they get in their car which to me is a plain invitation. They often forget to grab it when parking in the street and one did have his wallet stolen in Townsville....this particular son now carries a short cattle prod in his car although he has said to me that if the assailant is high on acid or whatever he would just yield as these people just feel no pain.

Thanks for responding and best regards

Denis

glassies · Guru

Ive just finished reading gary kelly's blog wow you have certainly been through hell and back i remember
seeing those masks for radiation at P. A brisbane i thought i think i would throw up if i had to be put in one
of them things, but its amazing what we endure when we need to fight for our lives.

Cheers to you gary you are a survivor """""

johnq · Guru

The usual advice given relating to theft is to have your valuables over. But is that advice useful in all conditions?

While I see the apparent wiseness of not provoking any escalation of an attack, lets face it, the attack is already in progress and the offenders do not have any regard for your safety at all. Quite the opposite in fact and many enjoy humiliating and hurting their victims. What any offender will do is take steps to increase his control over you and that can never be to your good. The ferals will escalate at their choosing. To take an obvious example, should a women withhold her scream until the offender drags her into the alley? But he would have thought to choke her first, wouldn't he?

What to do if the offender decides you should move elsewhere or accompany him? To comply would be to sign a death warrant. But if you are already submissive and acting in accord with his demands, how do you decide to change this incremental demand that could spell your doom?

I am not offering any solutions, just saying that we really need to nut out in advance what behaviour we will tolerate, what crosses our boundaries and what we will, not might, do in those circumstances.

We would be silly to put our heads in the sand saying that if it is to happen it will. We are older and often vulnerable through lifestyle and choice. Where there are simple, practical steps to avoid being first choice of of a mugger or assailant we should take them. Again, if we are chosen, we need to have committed ourselves to immediate actions, and know why.

I am not sure many of us could come up with viable solutions, not coming from the wrong side of the fence and not understanding at all the mentality of ferals.
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GaryKelly · Guru

Thanks, glassies. Those radiation masks ain't fun, to be sure, to be sure. There's an overwhelming sense of claustrophobia when you're in one and bolted to the bed frame, knowing you can't move. So it takes a lot of will power to focus on something else... like the music they play while you're inside the machine. It's a mental thing... so you have to use your mind as in "mind over matter". It's also important to ask the operators to keep you informed of proceedings via the intercom. A long silence can be very distressing.

As to johng and his thoughts about being a victim of an assault, when I had a knife put to my throat and was tied to a bannister post, all I could do, without thinking, was yell my lungs out. The guy stuffed a shirt into my mouth so I spat it out and kept yelling. I yelled so loud I frightened the bloody daylights out of him and he eventually took off. Fortunately, I was within hearing distance of the neighbors who were soon pouring out their front doors. Not sure what I would do in a situation where there was no one about... and hope I never have to find out. However, I do believe that the more a victim complies with the demands of an assailant, the more vulnerable he becomes. I suspect I would be just as uncooperative and downright stubborn. It's in my nature.

hokianga · Senior Member

That type of incident has happened a fewtimes In NZ, plus there have been instances of young women being raprd, the worst i can recall was when a backpacker couple decided to camp outside the Haruru Falls Tavern in the Bay Of Islands, they were kidnapped, she was raped repeatedly and the guy was beaten up. One of the reasons I chose a motorhome over a caravan was at least i could try and drive away from trouble, wher ein a caravan you jave to get out of your van and into your tow vehicle.
Of course, the main reason i chose a motorhome is that I can't reverse!!

Big Gorilla · Guru

hokianga wrote:
That type of incident has happened a fewtimes In NZ, plus there have been instances of young women being raprd, the worst i can recall was when a backpacker couple decided to camp outside the Haruru Falls Tavern in the Bay Of Islands, they were kidnapped, she was raped repeatedly and the guy was beaten up. One of the reasons I chose a motorhome over a caravan was at least i could try and drive away from trouble, wher ein a caravan you jave to get out of your van and into your tow vehicle.
Of course, the main reason i chose a motorhome is that I can't reverse!!

Didn't hear of that rape incident. What year was that ? The Tavern you are referring to is/was Twin Pines Tavern. I was one of the owners. I didn't spend much time there as I was working overseas... I have a bad memory for dates, and I don't have access to the old files, but I think it was 1997 we sold it.