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dogs in state and national parks


Hello my name is sue, and i would like to get the law changed on dogs in state and national parks, and i would like to know if there is anyone out there that wants to come on board? I am willing to take this all the way to Canberra, i feel that camp fires are more of a threat to our wildlife than our dogs on a leash! ( not to many greenies have commented on the animals lost on black saturday) so if you want to make a noise let me know.

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count me in Sue, what do you need me to do!

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ok thats one, at this stage just building this massive task, my fisrst step is to see my local member and get some advice, then i will try for a petition and just make a lot of noise so on and so on

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Count me in Sue,I think that dogs are allowed in State forests in NSW.But not in gestapo national Parks.Dig in and let us know how we can assist.Cheers.Ibbo.

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Yes i think you are correct, as we go to the murray and can not have our dog in vic but can have her over the river in nsw, and did you all know that in vic you may have your dog on the sand on the vic side up to the high water mark! as this area is classed as nsw.

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I am with you too Sue as we want to travel with our 2 dogs annd stay in the National Parks!















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Yeh Sue, I am in, let me know what you need done

I have got really psissed off at travelling a fair distance going into some place, only to find at the last bit, a no dog sign.

While I can understand to a point, there seems a mentallity to just put them up anyhow and wait for complaints.



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Yes Sue count me in too, I am on my way home from Bob's at the moment and it took me ages to find this park and when I did it was no dogs, this was at Buderim.  Nice place though, worth a visit.  Talking of dogs, seem to be one on every street been walked by their owners, I wonder what they think of the NP or was it SP, I forget,  on their doorstep not allowing dogs.

and Yes Bob I was using the GPS but ....... you know how I am.

-- Edited by Monica on Tuesday 5th of January 2010 06:58:40 PM

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As far as I am concerned you are on your own on this one Sue, there are plenty of places for dogs and national parks is not one of them.

I love my dogs but please let there be somewhere we can go without them evileyeevileyeevileye

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Hi Sue,
Count me in we travel with two dogs and stay away from National Parks if the dogs can't go there we don't go there.


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Count me in Sue, I have a small dog & avoid National Parks more woried what he might pick up from there animals. Cheers Daryl

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I'm in .

I asked a ranger once why dogs were excluded and all he could come up with is "if they get with the wild dogs they go feral". Hello ! of course they go feral they are pack animals from birth and if left to their own devices they will join the pack.

Have no doubts if my dog got lost in a NP I would move hell and high water until I found her. So long as dog owners stick by the pick up the do do's requirements, can't see a real problem .

There are people I would exclude before dogs

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Sue, we manage the Belair National Park Caravan Park,a privatelly run park within the Belair National Park and it is apparently the only national and recreation park that allows dogs on leads. We are dog friendly under strict conditions and have not come across a problem yet with all size dogs. This is a beautiful area and can be enjoyed by all and the increase in patronage recently indicates that the park is lifting and the associated recreation facilities around us makes for an enjoyable experience so close to the city. We are not associated with the National Park so therefore we are not part of the National Park Pass system. The local residents enjoy this facility with or without their dogs but it would not take too many breaches for this concession to end.

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wow, you have given me hope, you have proved it is possible, thankyou so much for your comment. regards sue

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Hi Sue,

We would gladly be part of the push to allow dogs in to state/national parks. Given the number of grey nomads out there travelling with their four-legged friends at any given time, we hope there is enough strength in our numbers to effect a change in this law.  From our observations, a well controlled dog whose owner cleans up after them is less likely to damage the environment than some humans!  Jan

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I'm with DeBe , we have a dog and would still like access to national parks.

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You can take your dog into a national park, you are not allowed to let it out of the car though. State forests in NSW allowed dogs on leash last time I looked.
The problem is that there are a very high pecentage of irresponsible dog owners who take small, viscious yappy dogs camping and they give everyone a bad name, no one wants to be bailed up by a dog that barks incessantly. Barking Dogs disturb wildlife and how can you police this? Then there are the dog owners who refuse to clean up after their dogs and thats aboslutlery lovely to be in the vast wilderness, walk out of your tent and step barefoot into some dogs pooh!
Na lets keep Dogs under responsible control and leave the National parks to the wildlife.

-- Edited by Seaman Staines on Sunday 21st of March 2010 12:53:14 PM

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Hello Sue, my name is Brian and I am a dog lover and owner but I will fight you all the way, there are plenty of places to take dogs and national parks are not one of them, take it to Canberra or take it to the bloody White House you wont win

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There are plenty of places for dogs but national parks are not one of them. I know most owners are responsible and control their animals, but there are a lot that are not causing much stress for other people when all they want is to relax

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signwilson wrote:

There are plenty of places for dogs but national parks are not one of them. I know most owners are responsible and control their animals, but there are a lot that are not causing much stress for other people when all they want is to relax



Fine I agree wholeheartedly as long as it is NOT in national parks

 



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dogs should be allowed in national parks as long as they are controlled, doesnt matter where you go there will always be idiots who do the wrong thing!
Responsible dog owners would willingly pay a fee to have their dogs in a national park.
At any campsite an uncontrolled pet is a pain in the butt


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i think that most dog owners keep there dogs under control but there are a lot of children out there and there owners have no control over what so ever so maybe we should be able to refuse entry to them

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flasher. well said.uncontrolled kids are much more of a problem than controlled pets.
cheers Jack

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Ferral or domestic animals of any type do not belong in National Parks.
You have no chance of winning that one Sue, nor should you. Save yourself the grief.

Cheers,
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Good one Flasher.I totally agree and so do many caravan park owners.There are quite a few feral parents out there that think it is their God given right to leave the supervision of their kids to others while they get drunk and keep everyone else awake.

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Peter_n_Margaret wrote:

Ferral or domestic animals of any type do not belong in National Parks.
You have no chance of winning that one Sue, nor should you. Save yourself the grief.

Cheers,
Peter



You got my vote Peter

 



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Sue, come to Belair where it has proven to work, good management in the National Park here and the lack of problems with dog control in our park show that it can be blended into the system. Stubborn views will never be overcome especially with the elderly which unfortunatelly i am now one.

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Hi Sue,
How is it all going,what have you done so far. good luck dealing with govt. officials. Maybe push it at election time. It's the only time they will listen.

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Hello Sue, How do you do?
Just found your thread with goldcoaster bumping it up.
Have just got myself a little mate, she is so tiny and as an adult will hardly get to 2 or 3 kgs. Intend travelling with her as a companion and free camping along the way so even though she will be unable to wander far from the van being on a lead and being so small, I would like to be able to park in the NPs if I find slomewhere nice to park overnight.

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Don't like your chances Marj.

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