I have just finished creating a 'My Health' record.  It is now one of the options that I can click on at the My Gov site.

There is not much data on the record yet but I'll be watching as the 'implementation' progresses to see what it is populated with...  Another item on my list for the next Doctor's visit too.  I suppose that his office will have to upload stuff from his records system.  I wonder how that works.

I believe that the Govt thru ATO, Medicare, PBS, et al already have lots of data on me along with a range of other stuff held by Google, Ebay, PayPal etc.  It's very difficult to live in today's society without leaving a data trail that can be exploited/used by a vast range of goodies & baddies.

At least with this scheme there may be some advantage in it for me.

So, I'm an opt in.

We see having our medical records freely available to health professionals all over the country as an asset.

Big brother knows all about us anyway so it's not an issue if someone hacks into my records & finds out that I suffer with piles.

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Hello Mike,can you post the source for the 12600 people gawking at your health records comes from?

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 Does it matter whether it 4900, 18700 or 12600? I think I heard (St) Jon Faine on 774 quote it:

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/my-health-record-privacy-doctors-support-2018-7

https://www.smh.com.au/technology/why-i-m-opting-out-of-the-government-s-digital-health-record-and-you-should-too-20180715-p4zrna.html

Interesting article , by a respected IT reporter.

Mentions 900k people will have access.

The disabling of you record can be overridden, and will be used by criminals.

It will be easier for criminals to access health data , since now they will know where it is .

Breaches are inevitable.

Hello Kebbin - can you post the source for the lies and hysteria to which you refer?

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There has already been attacks on My Gov to get peoples credentials.

Weakest part of My Health is at the fringes, examples Doctors surgery and hospitals, At a hospital there will be terminals everywhere.

Its not like a bank where the teller is mostly physically separated from the customer.

Also consider this , health data is the most prized data and sells for most dollars by hackers.

Most people have no idea about how data is obtained and sold by hackers.

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 Peter  .. 

Thanks for that. 

Seems like a real 'risk' to individual records but how will illegal access to, or use of terminals facilitate stealing of bulk records?

Where is the profit in access to medical records, other than 'marketing' et al of health products  and what is the personal risk/loss to individuals whose record is accessed?

I for one don't really care if it is known that I have certain heart issues, haemochromatosis, diverticular disease & have had cataract operations.  Might be a bit pissed off if I had STDs & that became public though.  Were I a public figure I might be a bit more protective of my personal info.

I am more protective of my financial situation data rather than my health history.  Is that a personal or perhaps social weakness?

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Just saw this on one of my daily newspapers ..  worth reading.......

https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/wellbeing/2018/07/16/my-health-record-myths/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Morning%20News%2020180717

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Wasn't this discussed some time ago Dorian? I'm thinking as far back as Keating maybe? I can't remember what the arguments against the idea were. Do you remember? I always thought the idea had merit as well. Jim

Grandad5 wrote:

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Wasn't this discussed some time ago Dorian? I'm thinking as far back as Keating maybe? I can't remember what the arguments against the idea were. Do you remember?

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Sorry, "bad memory" would be one of the first entries in my medical record. 

If it's good enough for my dog, maybe it's OK for me?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchip_implant_(human)

dorian wrote:

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Grandad5 wrote:

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Wasn't this discussed some time ago Dorian? I'm thinking as far back as Keating maybe? I can't remember what the arguments against the idea were. Do you remember?

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Sorry, "bad memory" would be one of the first entries in my medical record. 

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 Was that 'The Australia Card' idea?  All the Privacy Freaks sunk that one.

Last week I posted in the I digress section that I was surprised by the strange questions that my bank had asked me when I made an ordinary over the counter withdrawal. They wanted to know if I had any overseas tax liabilities - at the time I thought that even if I did it was really none of their buisness as that type of info should be between myself and the ATO not some 3rd party. Yesterday I received my annual statement for a self funded income stream which in the foot note said that a copy of my details had also been forwarded to both the ATO and Centrelink. Again I can understand the ATO as it's considered to be income but I have never in my life had any dealings with the other mob so until I do my financial information should also be off limits to them. People were kidding themselves if they thought that by rejecting the Australia Card it would prevent the government from gaining acess to all of their personal information. Probably like most of the general population I don't really have anything to hide so the fact that the govenment has my info isn't really the issue the concern is how secure that personal data is. I guess it's too late worrying about it now they have been getting this information by stealth ever since we entered the computer age.

Cheers BB

If you're not doing anything of a criminal nature & paying your taxes, who cares what the government knows about you.

Our files would make boring reading.

Grandad5 wrote:

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Cupie wrote:

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 Was that 'The Australia Card' idea?  All the Privacy Freaks sunk that one.

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 Yes, that was the time I was referring to.

I have a vague memory the Medicare card option was also floated. (I have the same memory problem that Dorian complained of)

An interesting aside of that Australia Card debacle that I've heard from several sources (Which doesn't necessarily mean its true) is that the whole Australia Card thing was a red herring leaked by Keating. 
While everybody was arguing about that issue he very quietly set up the data matching complex somewhere in Canberra. Once that was up and running he 'changed hos mind"  about the Australia card.

Now, like I said, just because a few people tell you something, doesn't necessarily mean its correct. But the first step in hearing any story like this is to apply the logic test. Does it logically sound feasible? And I have to admit, it does sound like something Keating would do.

Anyway, back to medicare card and health records.

I have no problem with somebody accessing my health records and I think the odds of it happening are small.

And, I think the medicare card idea should have been investigated further.

Jim

 

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 Now you're not suggesting that our great exPM Pauly, the clock loving pig farmer, would throw out a straw man to distract attention are you?

Gee I miss that guy from our political arena.  Such a sharp wit & cutting tongue.  As well, his lot along with RJH got on with nation building rather than divisive self interest politicking.

Just look how far our working class have fallen since their going.  But we have lots more Billionaires these days.

I work in cyber security and I know that although the Government claims that the system is secure there are many issues remaining. I won't go into technical details (you can look around the net for various technical comments), but I will say that I have already opted out (within an hour of being able to).