The idiot should've been in the left lane anyway .

Gday...

Thankfully the time I have spent as a driver seems to have been blessed having not have met any of those who have posted here out there on the road .

Not only have none seemed to have ever made a mistake (misjudgement?) but also have little to no tolerance of any other road users.

I was taught to read the road conditions, always anticipate that other's actions may not be as expected, be ready for what might be around that next corner.

It is no good being dead right when you may end up being right - dead.

I could count on the fingers of one hand the number of times in the past 50 years I have encountered someone depicted in this video.

However, I would never have enough storage space to keep instances of goodwill that has been shown to me on the road.

I guess I have led a charmed time on the roads as a driver.

Cheers - John

Dickodownunder wrote:

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Izabarack wrote:

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Couple of things come to notice - a whole lot of nasty motorists not allowing the MH driver to change lanes. Then some incompetent truck driver demonstrates a typical lack of road courtesy to fellow road users by making it even harder for the MH driver to change lanes.

I don't see the MH driver doing anything wrong but do see a lot of other drivers who need an attitude adjustment.

Iza

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 I don't know what you thought the driver of the truck was to do. I think he did all he could do.

He could not change lanes and as someone else said he was not expecting the motor home to stop in that lane. Truck couldn't change lanes for the same reason the motorhome was not able to do so ... traffic in the left lane/s. Besides, the motorhome had a left indicator on ... would you have moved to the left lane if it was clear? I doubt it.

The motor home driver was lucky he was able to stop. Agreed. Certainly, if he had known he would need to exit the freeway he should have been in the left lane earlier - or if following normal protocol, would have been travelling in the left lane all the time. Unfortunately, the motorhome became caught in the lack of tolerance, courtesy, and ability to read traffic from other road users - he stopped momentarily.

This is typical, blame everyone else for a massive mistake. Massive? The motorhome misjudged the location of the turnoff. Not very difficult to do when travelling in unfamiliar area and signs are sometime hard to fully understand. They often don't have the name of the place you want to go to but rather the next large town/suburb.

There is really no excuse with modern equipment such as GPS navigators. Surprisingly, you may find that there are a considerable number of drivers who do not use, or have, GPS navigators - me included.

I would bet that the motor home operator did not have his mirrors adjusted correctly and even if he did he certainly didn't bother to look in them otherwise he may have just noticed the truck behind him. I think the motorhome's mirrors were quite well adjusted. He had turned his indicator on well before he had slowed and definitely well before he was forced to stop - so he knew there was traffic behind him. Obviously, the motorhome driver was also using his left mirror as he could tell that the vehicles coming up on his left were not going to stop ... hence he had no option but to stop. Yeah ... he could have just killed the indicator and continued on but often in unfamiliar areas this could mean travelling many Km to the next turnoff that would facilitate leaving the freeway, crossing over and then coming back. Sometimes, coming back is fruitless as well as there is no off-ramp to the required destination when you have gone up and come back ... a perpetual circling of the freeway system.

In my personal opinion the guy should not be behind the wheel of any vehicle until he learns how to drive. HMMM ... Your tolerance is interesting. 

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 Gday...

Patience and understanding the need to 'read the traffic' and being prepared for the unexpected are the key.

That applies to all who share the road ... and in this instance, with the motorhome driver as well.

Cheers - John

dogbox wrote:

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it could have been a lot worse all the little errors of judgement could have ended into a major multi vehicle crash

the motorhome may have been hired by an overseas visitor who was lost and we Australians have no tolerance for the other idiots on the road
it appears that the truck was slowing due to the motorhome travelling slow in the right lane (illegal)others decided they couldn't wait an decided to pass on left(illegal) if another drug crazed fatigued overloaded an defective truck travelling at the speed limit had of overtaken on the left as the motor home took the exit the result could have made major head lines an the cars an trucks following to close behind that couldn't see what was happening in front crashed into the mess because the truck pulled up suddenly

we should be a little more forgiving an friendly to each other we all might live a little longer

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 copy from qld road transport website

please note last line

it appears it was 2 lanes even though we cant see speed signs

brian

Keeping left and overtaking

Keeping left

On single-lane roads, you must stay as close as practical to the left side of the road.

On multi-lane roads, if the posted speed limit is 90km/h or more, or if the road has a keep left unless overtaking sign, you must not drive in the right-hand lane unless you are:

• overtaking
• turning right
• making a U-turn
• avoiding an obstruction
• driving in congested traffic
• using a special purpose lane that you are allowed to be in.

Drivers are allowed to overtake on the left on all multi-lane roads.

The Belmont Bear wrote:

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I was reading this post for the first time today and it was interesting to see the different ways that people viewed who was in the right and who was in the wrong. Before I retired I was often involved in investigations into serious events, in this case this would only have been considered as a near miss. If the incident had actually resulted in an accident I,m pretty sure that all the things you have mentioned about the lack of courtesy, inattention etc. would have been considered as contributing factors but the actual root cause would have been stopping a vehicle without warning in the middle of a freeway.  

I feel for the guy who missed his turn off but I probably did the same thing at least 6 times in Muscat last weekend. To my wifes constant displeasure I swore like a trooper and had to drive quite a few extra kms. There is no way that I would have even considered it as being a safe option to stop my car in order to change direction. I seem to swear a lot more since I retired I dont know if its because Im getting older and crankier or that I just get lost a lot more. 

cheers

BB

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Gday...

I can certainly understand how the thought of stopping a vehicle within the lanes of a freeway is considered foolhardy ... even dangerous.

However, should the motorhome have blindly continued to diverge toward the exit lane and taken out the white car by pushing it into the barrier?

Should the motorhome have blindly continued to diverge toward the exit lane and caused the tradie and his ute to be forced into the barrier?

Should the motorhome driver simply have placed his own vehicle in the line of danger by continuing to diverge into either the white car or ute and created a multi-vehicle accident?

The motorhome activated their indicator, indicating in plenty of time, their intention to diverge from their lane toward either the left lane ... or as we ultimately found out - the exit lane.

This was in sufficient lead time for the truck to understand the motorhome was going to diverge and slow - indicated by the fact the truck began to slow behind the motorhome well before the motorhome began to diverge from the right lane.

Indeed, the truck had no drama in coming to a full stop behind the motorhome.

Perhaps the white car could be excused coz they 'thought' the motorhome wasn't REALLY going to diverge and was just going to continue and to hell with the motorhome.

Perhaps the motorhome could have not slowed further and/or stopped when the ute demanded it's "right" to pass the motorhome which not only had their indicator flashing but now was straddling two lanes. That action by the motorhome would have involved the motorhome, the ute ... and quite probably any other vehicle coming in the left lane ... in a multi-vehicle accident.l

Yes, the motorhome stopping on the freeway in this instance to avoid accidents with other vehicles that were not acknowledging the indication to diverge was perhaps, in the wonderful thing called hindsight, not the most prudent thing. However, it did NOT result in a multi-vehicle accident - indeed it avoided one.

I am certain that many on this forum, and the general motoring public, have been placed in the same situation of the motorhome due to inconsiderate, thoughtless other drivers.

cheers - John

Aus-Kiwi wrote:

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Chances are and it doesn't show this further back ?? Is the motorhome was possibly slowing traffic in the first place in the right lane ! Why there was a line of cars ready to pass . So initially it may have inconsiderate on behalf of the motorhome ! So many scenarios !!

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Gday...

  Sorry AK ... ya better watch the video just one more time ... there was NO "line of cars ready to pass" .... just the white car ... then some time before the ute forced their way past.

After the ute the motorhome had a clear and unheeded road to complete the manoeuvre. 

Actually coming a complete stop on the freeway is the ONLY misjudgement (and that is what it is ..... a misjudgement) the motorhome made ... and that was to avoid a mult-car accident caused by the inconsiderate other drivers that refused to acknowledge the flashing indicator and a vehicle being left high and dry straddled across two lanes with no-where to go.

Jest sayin' 

Cheers - John