CAMERONS CORNER

keiron · Senior Member

CAMERONS CORNER

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

When it is not wet, the road from Broken Hill to Cameron Corner is no significant challenge, but check road conditions if there has been any rain in the recent past (like now).
In 2016, I escorted some overseas friends this way. They were in a Landcruiser, towing a 23ft caravan. There were some wet patches from previous rain, but they managed to get through without drama.

https://youtu.be/c1-YOPigkMs

There were diversions around the larger water. Look ahead in the last 2 seconds of the video clip.

The road west of Cameron Corner was closed (as it is now) so we proceeded NE via Epsilon to Innamincka.
https://youtu.be/qKzgGts0IjE

The problem that you have however is that you can not follow the dog fence. It is out of bounds. There are station tracks that may suffice, but these are private property and you will need permission from the various pastoralists along the way and you may or not get that.
Cheers,
Peter

EDIT

NSW.... Live Traffic NSW | Incident Details

This trip is not possible at this time. Maybe it will be in July, maybe not?

-- Edited by Peter_n_Margaret on Sunday 15th of March 2026 11:53:49 AM

rmoor · Guru

Was on the phone to a mate when I read your post.

He knows that country very well.
His son has the road grading contracts at Ledknapper, Dunsaddle and is grading at the Culgoa national park at the moment.
The son has done some work and grading along the dog fence.

My mate said he would be very careful on the route you are looking at. (C.C. to B.H.).
He said 4 years ago it was not graded but he doesn't know what has been done since.
Also due to sand drift parts of the fence are missing and it is not straight, but doglegs in many places.
He also said where the Gidgee trees break off, the sand builds up and hides them and can puncture a tyre easily with an unseen Gidgee stump.

Said something about an old cemetery road from Tibooburra into Cameron's Corner was passable.
He also reckoned he would be reluctant to take that trip but if he did it would be fully equipped with his sons and a few of the old bushies he knows from that region.

Personally I have no experience whatsover in that region, but was guided by his first hand experience.
What was emphasised was the type puncture dangers, so I guess I would be looking strongly to have plenty of planning in that facet?
The other sensible move may to be some detailed research of the track from Cameron's Corner to ****burn???

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

rmoor wrote:

The other sensible move may to be some detailed research of the track from Cameron's Corner to ****burn???

I have driven most of that track at the invitation of the station management. It is strictly private property on Quinyambie Station and you definitely need permission.

Permission was available about 30 years ago, but was stopped when several dickheads tore it up when it was wet. It has also changed hands. It was a Kidman property and is now owned by Gina Rinehart.

Cheers,

Peter

rmoor · Guru

Interesting, sounds like most of that dog fence is now out of bounds?

My mate who has plenty of experience at Ledknapper, Culgoa etc mentioned if he was doing a trip up that way.
It would be the "Iron" Road Innaminka/Mundi Mundi.

Wherever that is, I was only listening to his advice and experiences.
Although when the opportunity presents itself, I will do a few trips around that region.
They go yabbying up that way once a year and always pick up a big catch.

BBN2 · Veteran Member

>I am seeking any advice

Don't do it.

Most four wheel drive hire prohibits off-road use

You have three old people and two late middle aged women, who will do all the heavy work of digging out the bogged vehicles or using the recovery gear (which you don't have) to extract a bogged vehicle.

Do you and the other driver have significant experience of 4WDing in sand?

Who's going to do the tyre changing of the one spare you'll have. Good luck undoing the nuts with the supplied tool.

In the wet those roads turn to slurry and 4WD or not you are not going anywhere.

Book accomodation? Is there any? And even if you can you have now made deadlines you'll have to keep.

The Dog Fence - forget it. I last drove sections of the dog fence about 20 years ago and soon after all public access to the Dog Fence maintenance track was prohibited.

Sat phone and EPIRB - very good BUT such things are not get-out-of-jail-free cards so you can waste the time of the emergency services because you failed to plan and prepare or went to places you are not equipped to go.

This is serious country and may kill all of you if you mess with it.

I appreciate you wish to "go bush" so instead I suggest you hire AWDs in BH or Mildura and drive south across the Murray Sunset National Park accommodation is available in Ouyen or Pinnaroo. Then continue south taking the Murrayville Track across Big Desert taking in Lake Hindmarsh and the Pilgrim's Memorial and then stopping overnight at the lake in Hopetoun. Take in some of the painted silos too.

Then you can return to your starting point either by the same route or head to Swan Hill and follow the Murray River north or you could cross into South Australia and head north to Renmark.

You won't need a sat phone but I strongly advise an EPIRB (PLB) and plenty of water for this trip.

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

Don't do it.
Most four wheel drive hire prohibits off-road use

Ignore the nay sayers.

The road from Broken Hill to Cameron Corner is not "off road" by any definition, but you must keep a close watch on the road reports for the area.

If you want to go to Camerons Corner and the road is open, go for it, but you might need to come back the same way you went.

There is lots to see around Tibooburra and there is a choice of accommodation there. There is also accommodation at Cameron Corner.

Cheers,

Peter

rmoor · Guru

I was wondering about the availability of Hire vehicles out of Broken Heel.
2 x Prado 4wd.

Private or commercial hire?
Then pondered once the hirer found out the destination would they then pull the pin.

Any sort of trek like that would require hardy well equipped vehicles.
Even on the Broken Heel to Tibooburra leg.

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

rmoor wrote:
Any sort of trek like that would require hardy well equipped vehicles.
Even on the Broken Heel to Tibooburra leg.

Broken Hill to Tibooburra is 330km.

It is 100% sealed since 2020.

Cheers,

Peter

BBN2 · Veteran Member

The OP wanted to drive the Dog Fence - that is not legally possible for him. However it is reasonable to assume he will wish to do other off-road tracks, his hire agreement will not permit that.

If he simply wishes to drive BH to CC and return the same way then two Toyota Yarris or a minibus may be better.

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

I quoted your completely false information about the sealed road from Broken Hill to Tibooburra.

Now you want to twist that around?

Please stop giving misleading information.

BBN2 wrote:
However it is reasonable to assume he will wish to do other off-road tracks, his hire agreement will not permit that.

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No it is not reasonable. There are lots of "tracks" that are not "off road" and virtually any track in that area that is "off road" will be private.

If he has a decent map of that area, it is likely that any road that is marked on it will be a road that he can drive in his hired 4WD.

Cheers,

Peter

BBN2 · Veteran Member

OP: Keiran:
Peter agrees to assist financially when it transpires you're in breach of your hire agreement.

He knows what all the hire agreements in BH stipulate and will financially assist in your legal battles.

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That aside OP:
If you are planning to take a hire car off the bitumen anywhere in Australia then well before you hand over cash or sign anything tell them *exactly* where you intend to go, in writing, and ask for their approval.

Or you could just ask Peter....

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

BBN2, you are very free with your advice, but I suggest that you should not assume that Keiron is stupid.
Have you actually ever driven from Tibooburra to Cameron Corner?
Cheers,
Peter

rmoor · Guru

"Broken Hill to Tibooburra is 330km.

It is 100% sealed since 2020.

Cheers,

Peter"

OK, thanks, think I would still prefer to do that trip in a suitable vehicle, with plenty of water and spare fuel possibly?
There is also the usual wildlife issues I guess?

I try desperately NOT to drive at dawn, dusk or night anymore.
Have plenty of experience on rural roads and I am an "odds" man.

I hit a roo in the hills locally a month or so back in my old Suzuki Vitara 4WD, I am reluctant to take the relatively new canopy backed Isuzu ute into those hills.
Bet there are a myriad of roo, deer, emu, wombat and other sundry livestock stories of brushes with danger for EVERY Grey Nomad on here !!!!!

BBN2 · Veteran Member

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
BBN2, you are very free with your advice, but I suggest that you should not assume that Keiron is stupid.

Not at all!

I assume you are stupid.

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

It is hard to remain polite....
I ask again..........Have you actually ever driven from Tibooburra to Cameron Corner?

Cheers,

Peter

BBN2 · Veteran Member

I agree, it is. Liars and narcissists are frustrating people to interact with.

Yes, I have.

Ineedabiggerboat · Senior Member

So common. Do as I say not as I do.

fatty · Veteran Member

People ask why this forum is dead..... I have only been here a short time, and I am already looking for the exit. The internet term trolls springs to mind.

Magnarc · Guru

fatty wrote:
People ask why this forum is dead..... I have only been here a short time, and I am already looking for the exit. The internet term trolls springs to mind.

Trolls. An oft used term out of context that has no significance in the this post. If you think that there are trolls on this forum, then your experience on other ones is limited to say the least.

Adios Fatty.

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

Found a couple more pics that might be of interest to keiron, if he has not given up and gone away.

They are from an earlier trip in 2009.

This is the drive east towards Cameron Corner. It is a great drive across the dunes except it has been cut up a while ago when it was wet and it is currently closed due to recent flooding. If it is open when you do your trip, it is worth the drive but it might be slow. 09-04-13P Strz, Cameron Cnr, Sturt NP 017E.jpg

This is the gate through the dog fence into NSW near Cameron Corner. As you can see, the roads are not a drama when they are not wet. They are "roads", not "tracks".

09-04-13P Strz, Cameron Cnr, Sturt NP 023E.jpg

From there we drove east through Sturt National Park, closer to the Dog Fence. This is a "lesser road" with a few windblown sandy spots, but no bother.

This is Warri Gate through the Dog Fence into Queensland. Next "stop" is the Noccundra pub, a bit less than 200km north.

09-04-13P Strz, Cameron Cnr, Sturt NP 034e.jpg

Cheers,

Peter

BBN2 · Veteran Member

Peter's photos are roads/tracks which simply cross the Dog Fence and in good conditions and in the dry may often be driven in a Commodore.

Below is the Dog Fence track which is not a road by any stretch of the imagination and is similar to most tracks in that area.

Dog Fence.jpg

-- Edited by BBN2 on Monday 16th of March 2026 02:27:01 PM

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

BBN2 wrote:
Peter's photos are roads/tracks which simply cross the Dog Fence and in good conditions and in the dry may often be driven in a Commodore.
Below is the Dog Fence track which is not a road by any stretch of the imagination and is similar to most tracks in that area.

Correct.

The Dog Fence track is not a track that the general public is permitted to drive on. Dog fence tracks will not appear on most maps either, for good reason.

This however, is a public road that goes from Omicron (a short distance NE of Cameron Corner) to Epsilon and when dry is quite suitable for any vehicle. Our overseas friends towed their 23ft caravan along here without drama.

Cheers,

Peter

-- Edited by Peter_n_Margaret on Monday 16th of March 2026 03:20:26 PM